Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Mortensen Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:16 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8? A quick question. When looking at issues.asterisk.org, It allows issues/bugs to be filtered by "Asterisk Version". The 1.8.x options for the filter are: 1.8.2.3 1.8.2.4 1.8.3.2 1.8.4-rc2 Do you guys know whether bugs from the older version should still show up as issues in the newer versions assuming that they weren't patched with the newer version release? In other words, if I look at the issues/bugs for 1.8.4-rc2, can I feel confident that any bugs from previous releases that are not explicitly listed for 1.8.4-rc2 have been patched somewhere between that version and 1.8.4-rc2? Or should I examine every single issue for every 1.8.x version & look at the notes on each bug? Or if a bug's status is set to Closed, can I assume that the latest release (1.8.4-rc2) should not exhibit the bug? I appreciate your input. I just want to make sure that I take the correct approach to this and don't wind up with a system with bugs that I wasn't expecting. - Doug Mortensen Network Consultant Impala Networks P: 505.327.7300 . Personally I would check each one as there are #1 bugs that "live" from version to version and #2 (and this doesn't happen too often, but it does) bugs introduced by other bug fixes. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
A quick question. When looking at issues.asterisk.org, It allows issues/bugs to be filtered by "Asterisk Version". The 1.8.x options for the filter are: 1.8.2.3 1.8.2.4 1.8.3.2 1.8.4-rc2 Do you guys know whether bugs from the older version should still show up as issues in the newer versions assuming that they weren't patched with the newer version release? In other words, if I look at the issues/bugs for 1.8.4-rc2, can I feel confident that any bugs from previous releases that are not explicitly listed for 1.8.4-rc2 have been patched somewhere between that version and 1.8.4-rc2? Or should I examine every single issue for every 1.8.x version & look at the notes on each bug? Or if a bug's status is set to Closed, can I assume that the latest release (1.8.4-rc2) should not exhibit the bug? I appreciate your input. I just want to make sure that I take the correct approach to this and don't wind up with a system with bugs that I wasn't expecting. - Doug Mortensen Network Consultant Impala Networks P: 505.327.7300 . -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
On 25/03/11 14:36, Douglas Mortensen wrote: Now that we've hashed out some thoughts on the most stable version of asterisk, I'd like to ask the question as to why I should NOT use 1.8? What are specific reasons? For instance a few days back I was speaking with James at Rhino Equipment. He said that he has "no real data" on why I shouldn't use 1.8. They just follow a practice of not jumping on the newest version. I agree with what Jonathan also said in this thread but that is also a good enough reason on it's own. Data doesn't yet exist to say whether it's stable enough. I like to err on the side of caution with phone systems as they cost lots of money when they go wrong! -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
Great advice guys. I know it was a loaded question. I appreciate your feedback. Although I'm probably not as much of an asterisk guru as you guys, I tend to agree with your approach. Thanks a lot!! - Doug Mortensen Network Consultant Impala Networks P: 505.327.7300 . From: Bryant Zimmerman [mailto:brya...@zktech.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8? From: "Jonathan Thurman" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:06 AM To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8? On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Douglas Mortensen mailto:d...@impalanetworks.com>> wrote: > > But I would like specific reasons why I shouldn't use 1.8 in a production > environment if anyone has some? That is a loaded question, in that no two environments are likely to be the same. Some bugs are major issues for < 1% of the install base and take time to get merged into the code base. You should read through the open issues for the 1.8 branch and see if there are any show stoppers for your environment. If not, try it in the lab and validate that it works for you. Check out https://issues.asterisk.org For my environment specifically, this issue is currently preventing me from migrating from 1.6.2: - 18818 [patch] Crashing when using local channels and realtime on asterisk There are a lot of benefits to the 1.8 branch (Long term support, Called party id, Multicast RTP, etc) but only you can say if it will work with your configuration in your environment. -Jonathan -- Doug I agree with Jonathan. I have moved all but one of our production switches to 1.8 the only thing holding me back is a minor bug so I have to keep the 1.6.2 box around until that patch is released into the 1.8 branches. When that is done I will no longer be on the 1.6. I have over 98% of our load on the 1.8 switches and we are doing multi tenant pbx hosting and sip trunking. A point of note I just turned down my last 1.4 box 2 weeks ago. It was not because it was not working but because I need more volume and 1.8 on the new hardware meets that need and I get the bonus of not having to support three versions of asterisk now. It is very likely that most of the time I will have at least two versions in production at a time. This is so I can offer the newest features with a stable build and I can offer a more long term support for the customers that the newest features are not as important. Most of my switch hardware has a planned 4 year life span. The better asterisk gets the longer I can stretch that investment. My recommendation is if 1.8 does not have any bugs that are issues for you try 1.8 out of the gate and test, test, test offer feed back from your testing and the bugs will get fixed. I would not spend to much time worrying spend more time doing. Good luck Bryant -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
From: "Jonathan Thurman" Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:06 AM To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8? On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Douglas Mortensen wrote: > > But I would like specific reasons why I shouldn't use 1.8 in a production environment if anyone has some? That is a loaded question, in that no two environments are likely to be the same. Some bugs are major issues for < 1% of the install base and take time to get merged into the code base. You should read through the open issues for the 1.8 branch and see if there are any show stoppers for your environment. If not, try it in the lab and validate that it works for you. Check out https://issues.asterisk.org For my environment specifically, this issue is currently preventing me from migrating from 1.6.2: - 18818 [patch] Crashing when using local channels and realtime on asterisk There are a lot of benefits to the 1.8 branch (Long term support, Called party id, Multicast RTP, etc) but only you can say if it will work with your configuration in your environment. -Jonathan -- Doug I agree with Jonathan. I have moved all but one of our production switches to 1.8 the only thing holding me back is a minor bug so I have to keep the 1.6.2 box around until that patch is released into the 1.8 branches. When that is done I will no longer be on the 1.6. I have over 98% of our load on the 1.8 switches and we are doing multi tenant pbx hosting and sip trunking. A point of note I just turned down my last 1.4 box 2 weeks ago. It was not because it was not working but because I need more volume and 1.8 on the new hardware meets that need and I get the bonus of not having to support three versions of asterisk now. It is very likely that most of the time I will have at least two versions in production at a time. This is so I can offer the newest features with a stable build and I can offer a more long term support for the customers that the newest features are not as important. Most of my switch hardware has a planned 4 year life span. The better asterisk gets the longer I can stretch that investment. My recommendation is if 1.8 does not have any bugs that are issues for you try 1.8 out of the gate and test, test, test offer feed back from your testing and the bugs will get fixed. I would not spend to much time worrying spend more time doing. Good luck Bryant -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Douglas Mortensen wrote: > > But I would like specific reasons why I shouldn't use 1.8 in a production > environment if anyone has some? That is a loaded question, in that no two environments are likely to be the same. Some bugs are major issues for < 1% of the install base and take time to get merged into the code base. You should read through the open issues for the 1.8 branch and see if there are any show stoppers for your environment. If not, try it in the lab and validate that it works for you. Check out https://issues.asterisk.org For my environment specifically, this issue is currently preventing me from migrating from 1.6.2: - 18818 [patch] Crashing when using local channels and realtime on asterisk There are a lot of benefits to the 1.8 branch (Long term support, Called party id, Multicast RTP, etc) but only you can say if it will work with your configuration in your environment. -Jonathan -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Why shouldn't I use 1.8?
Now that we've hashed out some thoughts on the most stable version of asterisk, I'd like to ask the question as to why I should NOT use 1.8? What are specific reasons? For instance a few days back I was speaking with James at Rhino Equipment. He said that he has "no real data" on why I shouldn't use 1.8. They just follow a practice of not jumping on the newest version. But I would like specific reasons why I shouldn't use 1.8 in a production environment if anyone has some? Thanks for your feedback! - Doug Mortensen Network Consultant Impala Networks Inc CCNA, MCSA, Security+, A+ Linux+, Network+, Server+ . www.impalanetworks.com P: (505) 327-7300 F: (505) 327-7545 . -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
