Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip and database integration

2009-02-24 Thread John Todd

On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Klaus Darilion wrote:
> Johansson Olle E wrote:
>> 24 feb 2009 kl. 11.31 skrev Michiel van Baak:
>>> On 10:56, Tue 24 Feb 09, Klaus Darilion wrote:
 Hi!

 I tried to understand how chan_sip can be configured by means of a
 database. I found these 2 different approaches (please correct me
 if I
 am wrong):

 static configuration: the sip.conf file is mapped to a database
 table.
 The table contains one line for each line in sip.conf.

 realtime configuration: the peers/users are stored in the database
 using
 a single line for each peer/user.


 "Static" does not eases provisioning as configuring a SIP peer/user
 using this approach is really complicated - it is just a method to
 store
 .conf files in database.

 "realtime" really eases provisioning of SIP peers/users. You only
 have
 to insert/update/delete a single line. But functionality is
 different -
 there are limitations as these objects are not stored in memory
 (can be
 cached), for example device status information.


 What I am looking for is a method to provision peers/users with a
 single
 line in the database, but without limitations. Thus, the peers need
 not
 to be realtime but are loaded on "sip reload".

 So is there a possiblity to have static peer/users configuration
 using a
 nice and easy way?
>>> Store them in a database and use a combination of cron and some
>>> scripting to generate the configuration files.
>>>
>>> Some advice: keep track if an update has been done to the database
>>> since
>>> last reload and only regen files and issue a reload when this is  
>>> true.
>>
>> I think this is what FreePBX does.
>
> But wouldn't it be great for Asterisk to support the realtime DB  
> schema
> also for static peers/users?
>
> klaus


Of course, it would be great!  It sounds like this is of some value to  
you, and I expect it would be useful to others, as well.  So there is  
a high incentive for someone to code it - maybe you!  :-)

Another solution, though I don't think it does what you want, would be  
to use the "#exec" command in your configuration files, which then  
calls a script to build the config file.

Honestly, I don't know if #exec gets called every time that the  
dialplan is reloaded - I'd assume the answer to this is "yes" but I  
can't test - see PPS below.

PS: Remember to enable #exec mode in /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf - it  
is disabled by default.

PPS: It seems that #exec is broken in SVN-TRUNK.  I've posted a bug. 
http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=14542

JT

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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip and database integration

2009-02-24 Thread Klaus Darilion
Johansson Olle E wrote:
> 24 feb 2009 kl. 11.31 skrev Michiel van Baak:
> 
>> On 10:56, Tue 24 Feb 09, Klaus Darilion wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I tried to understand how chan_sip can be configured by means of a
>>> database. I found these 2 different approaches (please correct me  
>>> if I
>>> am wrong):
>>>
>>> static configuration: the sip.conf file is mapped to a database  
>>> table.
>>> The table contains one line for each line in sip.conf.
>>>
>>> realtime configuration: the peers/users are stored in the database  
>>> using
>>> a single line for each peer/user.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Static" does not eases provisioning as configuring a SIP peer/user
>>> using this approach is really complicated - it is just a method to  
>>> store
>>> .conf files in database.
>>>
>>> "realtime" really eases provisioning of SIP peers/users. You only  
>>> have
>>> to insert/update/delete a single line. But functionality is  
>>> different -
>>> there are limitations as these objects are not stored in memory  
>>> (can be
>>> cached), for example device status information.
>>>
>>>
>>> What I am looking for is a method to provision peers/users with a  
>>> single
>>> line in the database, but without limitations. Thus, the peers need  
>>> not
>>> to be realtime but are loaded on "sip reload".
>>>
>>> So is there a possiblity to have static peer/users configuration  
>>> using a
>>> nice and easy way?
>> Store them in a database and use a combination of cron and some
>> scripting to generate the configuration files.
>>
>> Some advice: keep track if an update has been done to the database  
>> since
>> last reload and only regen files and issue a reload when this is true.
> 
> I think this is what FreePBX does.

But wouldn't it be great for Asterisk to support the realtime DB schema 
also for static peers/users?

klaus

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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip and database integration

2009-02-24 Thread Johansson Olle E

24 feb 2009 kl. 11.31 skrev Michiel van Baak:

> On 10:56, Tue 24 Feb 09, Klaus Darilion wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I tried to understand how chan_sip can be configured by means of a
>> database. I found these 2 different approaches (please correct me  
>> if I
>> am wrong):
>>
>> static configuration: the sip.conf file is mapped to a database  
>> table.
>> The table contains one line for each line in sip.conf.
>>
>> realtime configuration: the peers/users are stored in the database  
>> using
>> a single line for each peer/user.
>>
>>
>> "Static" does not eases provisioning as configuring a SIP peer/user
>> using this approach is really complicated - it is just a method to  
>> store
>> .conf files in database.
>>
>> "realtime" really eases provisioning of SIP peers/users. You only  
>> have
>> to insert/update/delete a single line. But functionality is  
>> different -
>> there are limitations as these objects are not stored in memory  
>> (can be
>> cached), for example device status information.
>>
>>
>> What I am looking for is a method to provision peers/users with a  
>> single
>> line in the database, but without limitations. Thus, the peers need  
>> not
>> to be realtime but are loaded on "sip reload".
>>
>> So is there a possiblity to have static peer/users configuration  
>> using a
>> nice and easy way?
>
> Store them in a database and use a combination of cron and some
> scripting to generate the configuration files.
>
> Some advice: keep track if an update has been done to the database  
> since
> last reload and only regen files and issue a reload when this is true.

I think this is what FreePBX does.

/O

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Re: [asterisk-users] chan_sip and database integration

2009-02-24 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 10:56, Tue 24 Feb 09, Klaus Darilion wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I tried to understand how chan_sip can be configured by means of a
> database. I found these 2 different approaches (please correct me if I
> am wrong):
> 
> static configuration: the sip.conf file is mapped to a database table.
> The table contains one line for each line in sip.conf.
> 
> realtime configuration: the peers/users are stored in the database using
> a single line for each peer/user.
> 
> 
> "Static" does not eases provisioning as configuring a SIP peer/user
> using this approach is really complicated - it is just a method to store
> .conf files in database.
> 
> "realtime" really eases provisioning of SIP peers/users. You only have
> to insert/update/delete a single line. But functionality is different -
> there are limitations as these objects are not stored in memory (can be
> cached), for example device status information.
> 
> 
> What I am looking for is a method to provision peers/users with a single
> line in the database, but without limitations. Thus, the peers need not
> to be realtime but are loaded on "sip reload".
> 
> So is there a possiblity to have static peer/users configuration using a
> nice and easy way?

Store them in a database and use a combination of cron and some
scripting to generate the configuration files.

Some advice: keep track if an update has been done to the database since
last reload and only regen files and issue a reload when this is true.

> 
> thanks
> klaus
> 
> 
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[asterisk-users] chan_sip and database integration

2009-02-24 Thread Klaus Darilion
Hi!

I tried to understand how chan_sip can be configured by means of a
database. I found these 2 different approaches (please correct me if I
am wrong):

static configuration: the sip.conf file is mapped to a database table.
The table contains one line for each line in sip.conf.

realtime configuration: the peers/users are stored in the database using
a single line for each peer/user.


"Static" does not eases provisioning as configuring a SIP peer/user
using this approach is really complicated - it is just a method to store
.conf files in database.

"realtime" really eases provisioning of SIP peers/users. You only have
to insert/update/delete a single line. But functionality is different -
there are limitations as these objects are not stored in memory (can be
cached), for example device status information.


What I am looking for is a method to provision peers/users with a single
line in the database, but without limitations. Thus, the peers need not
to be realtime but are loaded on "sip reload".

So is there a possiblity to have static peer/users configuration using a
nice and easy way?

thanks
klaus


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