Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
Another thing is I've found the grandstream phone way of doing things like transfer, etc much easier to understand for laypeople than the more expensive phones. There is no clutter of keys or menus. On Dec 23, 2007 11:50 AM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi: thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned. we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i surveyed some users to understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore it unless he use that function for daily business. i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of these functions seem not so basic in the ip world: 1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us. grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local phonebooks. linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys pbx, not asterisk. aastra: has xml phonebook snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't know if work here. other china brand phone: none. 2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx. you just press transfer then dial number and you are on the way of attended transfer. you press transfer again to cancel transfer. you hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the completion of attended transfer, the transfer becomes blind transfer automatically. eventually user didn't notice the blind or attended concept in classic pbx. snom: has transfer on hook. don't know if it can do all what i want. others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press hold to cancel transfer. 3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if you dial someone and he is on the phone, you will hear something like busy, please dial 5 if you want to request callback. you can dial 5 and you will hear success, please hangup. asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better. linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use. snom: has call completion. others: i didn't find this or i miss it. 4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate *8 and let asterisk do it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation. 5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you pick up the handset you will hear like forwarded, please press *1 to cancel. it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number. please correct me if there are mistakes or missing. thanks again for your great help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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hi: i have discussed the transfer function with grandstream engineers. their operation procedure is complicated(eg: no attended+blind transfer). i tell them the simple way, but got no response since then. Regards, tbskyd 2008/1/7, Andrew Joakimsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another thing is I've found the grandstream phone way of doing things like transfer, etc much easier to understand for laypeople than the more expensive phones. There is no clutter of keys or menus. On Dec 23, 2007 11:50 AM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi: thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned. we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i surveyed some users to understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore it unless he use that function for daily business. i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of these functions seem not so basic in the ip world: 1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us. grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local phonebooks. linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys pbx, not asterisk. aastra: has xml phonebook snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't know if work here. other china brand phone: none. 2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx. you just press transfer then dial number and you are on the way of attended transfer. you press transfer again to cancel transfer. you hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the completion of attended transfer, the transfer becomes blind transfer automatically. eventually user didn't notice the blind or attended concept in classic pbx. snom: has transfer on hook. don't know if it can do all what i want. others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press hold to cancel transfer. 3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if you dial someone and he is on the phone, you will hear something like busy, please dial 5 if you want to request callback. you can dial 5 and you will hear success, please hangup. asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better. linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use. snom: has call completion. others: i didn't find this or i miss it. 4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate *8 and let asterisk do it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation. 5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you pick up the handset you will hear like forwarded, please press *1 to cancel. it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number. please correct me if there are mistakes or missing. thanks again for your great help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
d tbsky wrote: hi: thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality. i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil) phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good sound quality. but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook, transfer, callback..etc). I think that Fanvil is ATCom repackaged (I have an atcom and fanvil phone and the configuration structure and menus are the same although the atcom interface looks better). Fanvil's firmware support is poor and I accidentally downgraded the firmware thinking I was upgrading it according to their web page. Phonebook will be an issue. Attended an unattended transfers aren't a problem with these phones and I thought call-back would be implimented in the PBX, not the phone. Maybe have a look at Mitel, you can tickle a URL on the phone to make it dial, so clicking on the name on the company directory in the intranet will call them using your phone. Ian -- Ian Freislich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi lan: thanks for your reply. i already discussed with atcom engineer. they are sorry that they can not satisfy any of my request. they will release an advanced model this year and hope it can catch up others. fanvil is really poor. we have dozens of fanvil FV6050 and now we have to give up all of them and waiting for snom phones. Regards, tbskyd 2008/1/4, Ian FREISLICH [EMAIL PROTECTED]: d tbsky wrote: hi: thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality. i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil) phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good sound quality. but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook, transfer, callback..etc). I think that Fanvil is ATCom repackaged (I have an atcom and fanvil phone and the configuration structure and menus are the same although the atcom interface looks better). Fanvil's firmware support is poor and I accidentally downgraded the firmware thinking I was upgrading it according to their web page. Phonebook will be an issue. Attended an unattended transfers aren't a problem with these phones and I thought call-back would be implimented in the PBX, not the phone. Maybe have a look at Mitel, you can tickle a URL on the phone to make it dial, so clicking on the name on the company directory in the intranet will call them using your phone. Ian -- Ian Freislich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
hi: thanks a lot for so many great information. i tried to read the specs and manuals for all the phones mentioned. we use alcatel pbx in most offices. i surveyed some users to understand what functions they use most. and i found few people know how to use 3way-conf or forward.i think if the function needs two or more keys to operate, then people tend to ignore it unless he use that function for daily business. i conclude the functions we need are all basic functions. but due to the difference of ip pbx/phones and classic pbx/phones, some of these functions seem not so basic in the ip world: 1. dial out name display. when you dial a number, the phone lcd will show the corresponding name, so you can realize if it is the correct number immediately. this needs a corporate directory support, or put the whole corporate phonebooks to every ip phone. most ip phone has less than 500 local phonebook entries. this is not enough for us. grandstream: has xml phonebook support and can combine with local phonebooks. linksys: has coporate directory but seems only work with linksys pbx, not asterisk. aastra: has xml phonebook snom: has ldap and xml phonebook. xml seems for browsing,don't know if work here. other china brand phone: none. 2. transfer. transfer is simple and straightforward in classic pbx. you just press transfer then dial number and you are on the way of attended transfer. you press transfer again to cancel transfer. you hangup to complete the attended transfer. if you hangup before the completion of attended transfer, the transfer becomes blind transfer automatically. eventually user didn't notice the blind or attended concept in classic pbx. snom: has transfer on hook. don't know if it can do all what i want. others: some china phones almost can do it, but need to press hold to cancel transfer. 3. call back on busy. in alcatel, if you dial someone and he is on the phone, you will hear something like busy, please dial 5 if you want to request callback. you can dial 5 and you will hear success, please hangup. asterisk has several ways and patches to do this. but i saw some phone can do this locally. i don't know which is better. linksys: has this function in spec. don't know how to use. snom: has call completion. others: i didn't find this or i miss it. 4. pickup. i think this is easy to emulate *8 and let asterisk do it. any better method? every phones can do this emulation. 5. three-way conference, forward. if there are simple (one key) method to implement these. in alcatel, if the phone if forwarded, when you pick up the handset you will hear like forwarded, please press *1 to cancel. it's easy so everyone can cancel the forward. but it need two keys to start a forward, so few users know how to forward a number. please correct me if there are mistakes or missing. thanks again for your great help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi, Try atcom. www.atcom.com.cn We have tested atcom and its quality also good. they are using infeneon chipset. its support asterisk, sip, iax as well.decent look. cost effetive. still they have basic ip phone modles. starting from next year they will release new modles. Regards, vidura. -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:04:57 +0100 From: Fredrik S?derlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Check out yntx www.yntx.com fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do ! try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company.. /MVH Fille ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
hi: thanks for the information. you are the second one who mentioned atcom. so i think this phone has basic quality. i don't have atcom in hand. but i have other china brand(fanvil) phone which seems the same as atcom: infeneon based, sip, iax, good sound quality. but it has poor firmware support and limited function. i check the atcom manual, but didn't find the functions i need (corporate phonebook, transfer, callback..etc). Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/24, Vidura Senadeera [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Try atcom. www.atcom.com.cn We have tested atcom and its quality also good. they are using infeneon chipset. its support asterisk, sip, iax as well.decent look. cost effetive. still they have basic ip phone modles. starting from next year they will release new modles. Regards, vidura. -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:04:57 +0100 From: Fredrik S?derlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Check out yntx www.yntx.com fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do ! try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company.. /MVH Fille ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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For the price Grandstream GXP-2000 is very feature packed and has a decent size and resolution display. The menus aren't the nicest but the phone works and it does not sound bad. For $70 you get what you pay for and the firmware is pretty stable and always being updated. On Dec 19, 2007 11:33 PM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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http://spc.pifiu.com for the stuff Linksys are Nazis about. On Dec 21, 2007 1:56 PM, Igor A. Goncharovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! d tbsky wrote: ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things. can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco routers and switches? You can download latest firmware from linksys.com, also here is firmware release notes with full changes list. There is some support issues: support of VoIP devices only for itsp, but community can give answer on very-very advanced questions. -- Best regards, Igor A. Goncharovsky ICQ: 648337 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Andrew Joakimsen wrote: For the price Grandstream GXP-2000 is very feature packed and has a decent size and resolution display. The menus aren't the nicest but the phone works and it does not sound bad. For $70 you get what you pay for and the firmware is pretty stable and always being updated. I've been a bit of a Grandstream enthusiast for some time now, and generally get on very well with them, but I have to say that recently I've become somewhat irritated by them. I know they had some hardware issues way back, but I've never encountered any of them. For the money, it *is* a feature packed phone. It's a bit plasticy and the sound quality isn't as good as say a Snom, but I've a lot of customers for whom the price is right. For a long time I've used software version 1.1.1.14, but recently they've had newer versions which I've been unable to downgrade to that version. Their latest version, 1.1.5.15 has fixed a few things, removed the router function (which I had no use for anyway), but in return I now get the occasional buzzing sound every few minutes from one older phone I've upgraded. Not sure about the new ones, not dared to upgrade them yet! Additionally, some phones I have out in the field which were shipped with some intermediate version of the s/ware have odd audio problems. I've emailled them, and get replies eventually, nothing forthcoming about a fix yet, so who knows... I do like the phones though, the GXP2000 is very nice, if a little fisher price, and for the money I can't better it, but if their software doesn't stabilise, then who knows what I'll be tempted to move to in the future... (probably Snom if I can persuade my customers to pay a little more - the 300's screen is jsut too small, and the price difference between that and the 320 is just a bit too much for my market...) Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Check out yntx www.yntx.com fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do ! try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company.. /MVH Fille ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Dec 21, 2007 12:37 AM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi gnubie: snom seems has some re-brand ip phones. do they use the same firmware? if they are the same, i don't understand why snom do this.. If I'm not mistaken, they use the same firmware. I don't know about Aztech and SNOM business relationship, if there is. But for sure, it is still a SNOM phone. =) GNUbie ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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hi Fredrik : thanks for your information. after checking yntx manuals, i found i have one phone in my hand, which has the same firmware with yntx phones. although it is a different brand and looks different. the phone's basic function is ok, but we need some advanced functions like xml phonebook. i hope these china phones would catch up quickly so we all can have better, cheaper phones. Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/21, Fredrik Söderlund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check out yntx www.yntx.com fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do ! try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company.. /MVH Fille ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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hi mkezys: ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things. can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco routers and switches? 2007/12/21, Mindaugas Kezys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi How about trying the Snom phones? They are good and feature rich with regular firmware upgrades. Thanks Neel d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Fredrik : thanks for your information. after checking yntx manuals, i found i have one phone in my hand, which has the same firmware with yntx phones. although it is a different brand and looks different. the phone's basic function is ok, but we need some advanced functions like xml phonebook. i hope these china phones would catch up quickly so we all can have better, cheaper phones. Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/21, Fredrik Söderlund : Check out yntx www.yntx.com fear prices and recides in Asia and iss it sip on asteriks they will do ! try to buy one to trye it out before buying fore hole company.. /MVH Fille ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi! d tbsky wrote: ok. i will add linksys to our testing list. but cisco tend to lock things. can we get firmware for linksys easily ? or we must pay like cisco routers and switches? You can download latest firmware from linksys.com, also here is firmware release notes with full changes list. There is some support issues: support of VoIP devices only for itsp, but community can give answer on very-very advanced questions. -- Best regards, Igor A. Goncharovsky ICQ: 648337 mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Dec 20, 2007 12:33 PM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Try getting the Aztech IP150 http://www.aztech.com.sg/ip_telephony/ip150.html which is based on the SNOM 300. Regards, GNUbie ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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hi gnubie: snom seems has some re-brand ip phones. do they use the same firmware? if they are the same, i don't understand why snom do this.. Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/20, GNUbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 20, 2007 12:33 PM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Try getting the Aztech IP150 http://www.aztech.com.sg/ip_telephony/ip150.html which is based on the SNOM 300. Regards, GNUbie ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very nice phones, and very easy to manage. Cheers, Daniel Cole (CCNA) Technical Support Ph: 1800 424 683 Fax: 03 5221 7659 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: hugonet.com.au --- The information transmitted is the property of HugoNet and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination and other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mindaugas Kezys Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 6:03 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I always forget about Linksys/Sipura phones. Yes they are very nice. I know there can be some contractual issues when you deal with Linksys/Cisco, but they are well constructed and I haven't heard anything bad. I do think you'd get better support with Snom/Grandstream, but this is coming from my experiences with Cisco more then Linksys. On Dec 20, 2007 3:24 PM, Daniel Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very nice phones, and very easy to manage. Cheers, Daniel Cole (CCNA) Technical Support Ph: 1800 424 683 Fax: 03 5221 7659 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: hugonet.com.au --- The information transmitted is the property of HugoNet and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination and other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mindaugas Kezys Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 6:03 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Daniel Cole wrote: We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very nice phones, and very easy to manage. Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read. Is the 963 any better? Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me. John Novack Cheers, Daniel Cole (CCNA) Technical Support Ph: 1800 424 683 Fax: 03 5221 7659 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: hugonet.com.au --- The information transmitted is the property of HugoNet and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination and other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mindaugas Kezys Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 6:03 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi, We currently use the 942 and 962. These both have backlight displays. The 962 is obviously the model with the nice color screen. These phones are very easy to manage. We configure all phone remotely via TFTP, and they phones are set to pull their config periodically. Very easy for making changes off-site :) Cheers, Daniel Cole (CCNA) Technical Support Ph: 1800 424 683 Fax: 03 5221 7659 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: hugonet.com.au --- The information transmitted is the property of HugoNet and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination and other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 9:18 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Daniel Cole wrote: We currently also use the Linksys SPA942 and SPA963 IP phones. They are very nice phones, and very easy to manage. Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read. Is the 963 any better? Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me. John Novack Cheers, Daniel Cole (CCNA) Technical Support Ph: 1800 424 683 Fax: 03 5221 7659 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: hugonet.com.au -- - The information transmitted is the property of HugoNet and is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination and other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. P Please consider the environment before you print this e-mail or any attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mindaugas Kezys Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 6:03 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Do not forget to evaluate Linksys SPA phones. Best I tried and not expensive. We use them (SPA942) in our company. Everybody's happy. Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com MOR - Advanced Billing for Asterisk PBX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d tbsky Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:34 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia? Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my co-pilot ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation
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On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:17 -0500, John Novack wrote: Both the 842 and 942 do not have lit displays and are hard to read. Actually, the 942 *does* have a backlit LCD. Is the 963 any better? I'm assuming that's a typo and they really meant the 962. The 962 has a bright color backlit LCD. Why anyone EVER built a LCD without backlighting is beyond me. I tend to agree. --- Jared Smith Community Relations Manager Digium, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
Hi tbskyd, We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price range. Cheers, Joel. On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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hi Joel: thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :) i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply. i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year. grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their product is ok now. i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request? thanks again for your kindly help!! Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/20, Joel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi tbskyd, We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price range. Cheers, Joel. On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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You get what you pay for. Snoms are good phones. Grandstreams are also good. I hear Snoms are easier to get around NAT and the seem like higher quality construction. Grandstreams are great for cheap and easy set-ups. I remember one guy telling me he buy up a case and if anything goes wrong with a unit he has a couple spares to go in its place. Over all... if you're looking for setting up office phones, Snom, Polycom, and Aastra look/feel nice. If you're looking to set up small offices or call centers on the cheap, Grandstreams are OK. I personally like Grandstream for home use, but I use Polycom for work, and I hear good things about Snom. On Dec 20, 2007 12:06 AM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Joel: thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :) i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply. i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year. grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their product is ok now. i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request? thanks again for your kindly help!! Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/20, Joel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi tbskyd, We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price range. Cheers, Joel. On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] ip phone suggestion for Asia?
hi Joe: thanks for your great opinion. we will buy spares of course. our new office needs about 150 phone.we use alcatel before. but want to change to asterisk now for better future. since aastra is not sale to asia (that's sad, aastra boss seems born at taiwan). i will choose snom or grandstream. polycom seems really expensive, i saw someone say their cheap model has no hardware transfer key. so i think i need to pay much more to get what i want in polycom. Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/20, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You get what you pay for. Snoms are good phones. Grandstreams are also good. I hear Snoms are easier to get around NAT and the seem like higher quality construction. Grandstreams are great for cheap and easy set-ups. I remember one guy telling me he buy up a case and if anything goes wrong with a unit he has a couple spares to go in its place. Over all... if you're looking for setting up office phones, Snom, Polycom, and Aastra look/feel nice. If you're looking to set up small offices or call centers on the cheap, Grandstreams are OK. I personally like Grandstream for home use, but I use Polycom for work, and I hear good things about Snom. On Dec 20, 2007 12:06 AM, d tbsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Joel: thanks a lot for your reply. i forgot snom :) i wrote a snom employ found in this email list, but got no reply. i saw there are huge complain about grandstream firmware this year. grandstream seems response and solve some of them. i wonder if their product is ok now. i don't know the situation of snom, will they response to user's request? thanks again for your kindly help!! Regards, tbskyd 2007/12/20, Joel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi tbskyd, We have found that the Grandstream's are not that great a phone. One of our best sellers is the Snom range and I know that the Australian supplier spends half his time in Hong Kong so you shouldn't have any problems getting so over there. They are a little more expensive than the Grandstream's but cheaper than the Polycoms around that Aastra price range. Cheers, Joel. On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 12:33 +0800, d tbsky wrote: Hi: i am surveying ip phones for our company. we will use them with asterisk. we have office in taiwan, hong kong,singapore and china. cisco and polycom are too expensive for us. we try several china brand ip phones. they are all cheap and some of them have good quality. but most of them won't offer future firmware support, which we think it's important for ip phones. searching in the mail list, we found aastra is good, but they don't sale to asia. grandstream looks good also.there are many grandstream users in the list, can someone share any good or bad experience about grandstream today? if there are other good choice, please tell us!! thanks a lot for your help!! Regards, tbskyd ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
