Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Totaro 
You should also look at Darren's ASTPP, I am not sure if you missed
that earlier in the thread.  It is basically ASTCC with major
improvements.  It even has the ability to tie into OSCommerce which in
turn can connect to several credit card merchant accounts.

It is much more robust than ASTCC.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Nhadie Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thank you sir, i will try to check on that. i haven't really tried astcc yet
 so i really dont understand how it works right now.

 also, do you have any reference on using app_prepaid? can't find some sample
 config, i would like to see how i can use that. do you think app_prepaid is
 suited for the scenario i have?

 thank you

 regards
 nhadie



 Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:41 -0600, Darren Wiebe wrote:
  Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc

 Keep in mind that astcc is simply a tool that keeps a database of
 minutes used for some entity (typically a calling card) and calculates
 those minutes used against a pre-charged amount. The number of the
 entity can be passed to astcc (i.e. so that it does not need to prompt
 the user for it) in such a way:

 exten = _1NXXNXX,n,DeadAGI(astcc.agi,${cardnum},${EXTEN})

 So binding a trunk to a cardnum (i.e. a given pre-charged account)
 should be easy enough to do.

 b.

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[asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Nhadie Ramos 
if i have this setup:

[sip users] -- [asterisk] --- [as5300] --- [pstn]

asterisk will talk to as5300 using sip. i will use as5300 as a trunk on the 
asterisk so sip users can call out to pstn.

what i would like to is do prepaid on those trunks, not on the sip users. sip 
users can call any other sip users . i want to do it that way coz i'm trying to 
build a multi-tenant pbx, and i will use the trunk as a unique identifier for 
each customer not their local extension.

e.g. customer A will have trunk 34587612 and will have extension 101 and 102,  
customer B will have a different trunk 87659043 but will also have the 
extension 101 and 102.

i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also to load 
amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to use app_prepaid 
for this?

thank you.
regards,
nhadie




   
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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell 
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:
 
 i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
 to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
 use app_prepaid for this?

TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.



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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Nhadie Ramos 

Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the 
amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do 
is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to 
pstn). Is that possible?

Regards,
Nhadie



On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:


 
 i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
 to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
 use app_prepaid for this?



TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.





   
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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell 
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:
 Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.
 
 the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the 
 amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to 
 do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound 
 to pstn). Is that possible?

Wouldn't you just equate a Calling Card (that's the unit that has an
account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
or extension?  You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
for a Calling Card identifier.

b.




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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Darren Wiebe 
Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be 
monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

Darren Wiebe
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Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:
   
 Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

 the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the 
 amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to 
 do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound 
 to pstn). Is that possible?
 

 Wouldn't you just equate a Calling Card (that's the unit that has an
 account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
 or extension?  You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
 for a Calling Card identifier.

 b.


   
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Nhadie Ramos 
hi sir,

yes that would be it, but instead of having a prepaid provider, i will setup my 
own as5300 and asterisk will talk to that. is that possible in astcc, astbill 
or a2billing?

regards,
nhadie

Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be 
monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

Darren Wiebe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian J. Murrell wrote:


 On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:
   


 Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

 the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the 
 amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to 
 do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound 
 to pstn). Is that possible?
 



 Wouldn't you just equate a Calling Card (that's the unit that has an
 account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
 or extension?  You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
 for a Calling Card identifier.

 b.

Nhadie Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors the 
amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want to do 
is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call outbound to 
pstn). Is that possible?

Regards,
Nhadie



On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:


 
 i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
 to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
 use app_prepaid for this?



TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

Cheers,
b.




   

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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Darren Wiebe 
Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc and I can't speak for astbill 
or a2billing.  I do know that I coded it into astpp and it's called 
vendor rating in there.  It works but it's not used a lot at present.

Darren Wiebe
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Nhadie Ramos wrote:
 hi sir,

 yes that would be it, but instead of having a prepaid provider, i will 
 setup my own as5300 and asterisk will talk to that. is that possible 
 in astcc, astbill or a2billing?

 regards,
 nhadie
 Am I correct in thinking that one application of this would be 
 monitoring what you have left for funds with a prepaid vendor?

 Darren Wiebe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Brian J. Murrell wrote:
   
  On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 09:38 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:

   
  Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.
 
  the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors
  the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i 
 want to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call 
 outbound to pstn). Is that possible?
  
 
 
  Wouldn't you just equate a Calling Card (that's the unit that has an
  account balance and charges against it) with a trunk instead of a user
  or extension?  You can call the astcc agi script with any value you want
  for a Calling Card identifier.
 
  b.

 */Nhadie Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 Hi, sorry to confused you with my question.

 the normal prepaid application like astcc, if i'm not mistaken, monitors 
 the amount left on the user (which i usually refer as extension), what i want 
 to do is monitor prepaid on the trunk (or the SIP channel use to call 
 outbound to pstn). Is that possible?

 Regards,
 Nhadie



 On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 22:59 -0700, Nhadie Ramos wrote:
 

  
  i want to create a billing system to monitor only the trunks and also
  to load amounts on those trunks. is this possible? will i be able to
  use app_prepaid for
  this?
   

 TBH, I don't really understand your description, but I will say that I
 implemented astcc a week or two ago and it works for what I need.

 Cheers,
 b.

 


 
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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell 
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:41 -0600, Darren Wiebe wrote:
 Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc

Keep in mind that astcc is simply a tool that keeps a database of
minutes used for some entity (typically a calling card) and calculates
those minutes used against a pre-charged amount.  The number of the
entity can be passed to astcc (i.e. so that it does not need to prompt
the user for it) in such a way:

exten = _1NXXNXX,n,DeadAGI(astcc.agi,${cardnum},${EXTEN})

So binding a trunk to a cardnum (i.e. a given pre-charged account)
should be easy enough to do.

b.



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Re: [asterisk-users] prepaid on the trunks

2008-04-23 Thread Nhadie Ramos 
thank you sir, i will try to check on that. i haven't really tried astcc yet so 
i really dont understand how it works right now.

also, do you have any reference on using app_prepaid? can't find some sample 
config, i would like to see how i can use that. do you think app_prepaid is 
suited for the scenario i have?

thank you

regards
nhadie

Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:41 
-0600, Darren Wiebe wrote:
 Ok, I'm not aware of this feature in astcc

Keep in mind that astcc is simply a tool that keeps a database of
minutes used for some entity (typically a calling card) and calculates
those minutes used against a pre-charged amount.  The number of the
entity can be passed to astcc (i.e. so that it does not need to prompt
the user for it) in such a way:

exten = _1NXXNXX,n,DeadAGI(astcc.agi,${cardnum},${EXTEN})

So binding a trunk to a cardnum (i.e. a given pre-charged account)
should be easy enough to do.

b.

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