Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Am Montag, den 30.07.2007, 14:29 -0700 schrieb Lee Howard: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? It is not at all April 1st... however, I see the point in having a simple demo app. Wether you call it helloworld or hellomarc, the difference is not too large, right? For me having a working example codebase has been a helpful guide in programming modules for existing applications (not Asterisk yet, though). You carve out Marco and put in your own code, there you are. Besides that and an overly eager Mr. Smithers programmer, I do not see a point ;) BR Anselm ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: OTOH: /usr/sbin/asterisk depends on libopenh323 . Now this *is* bloat. Did you bother to check into why this is the case before spreading this unfounded information on the mailing list? First of all, this is *NOT* true unless the chan_h323 module was built, which the vast majority of users do not do. Second, the library is linked to the main Asterisk binary because of some complex shared-library dependencies inside OpenH.323 and PWLIB. I don't completely understand what they where, but the developer who did the work (Pavel Cadach) does, and he can show you how *not* doing it this way results in the OpenH.323 libraries being left in memory after chan_h323 is unloaded. Since this can only affect users who build chan_h323, it seemed like a reasonable change to make. -- Kevin P. Fleming Director of Software Technologies Digium, Inc. - The Genuine Asterisk Experience (TM) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:29 -0700, Lee Howard wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? This was added as a April Fools joke, and has since been removed. It's nice to know that even software engineers have a sense of humor from time to time. :-) On the serious side, one might see it as an example of how easy it is to add a new CLI command to Asterisk (complete with compiler flags, command auto-completion, and the whole nine yards). -- Jared Smith Community Relations Manager Digium, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Quoting Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? I have to agree, there comes a time when someone has to say no to stuff that has no business being in production software. Remember when an o/s fit on a floppy with room to spare (and not just the bootstrap to load the real o/s) Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Lee Howard wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? Lee. It was done as a joke. It was committed only to trunk, and was only compiled if explicitly enabled. Mark seemed to get a kick out of it, so, yes, I guess you could say it was useful to at least one person. (Note, this code has since been removed, since clearly the date has long passed.) -- Jason Parker Digium ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Relax, its only in trunk. Zoa Lee Howard wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? Lee. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Jon Pounder wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? I have to agree, there comes a time when someone has to say no to stuff that has no business being in production software. Well, you'll have to excuse him for trying to make a joke. :) Anyway, you'd be happy to know that this was never in a release, nor was it ever intended to be. It was only introduced in the development tree and has since been removed. -- Russell Bryant Software Engineer Digium, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:29:32PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? Ghod... nobody has a sense of humour anymore. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:29:32PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? Ghod... nobody has a sense of humour anymore. :-) Might just be making a slippery slope argument. Start with a birthday, and soon you have... COMMUNISM. This message has been brought to you by J. Edgar Hoover. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Direct : +1-678-954-0671 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: Ghod... nobody has a sense of humour anymore. :-) I know. I better not list all of the other things we have done as a joke. Someone might have heart failure. ;) -- Russell Bryant Software Engineer Digium, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] software bloat - is this really useful to anyone?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 05:42:52PM -0400, Jon Pounder wrote: Quoting Lee Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48327 I mean, really... you're kidding me, right? I have to agree, there comes a time when someone has to say no to stuff that has no business being in production software. Remember when an o/s fit on a floppy with room to spare (and not just the bootstrap to load the real o/s) OT: Still fits on a floppy, basically: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ If you look well enough you'll find Asterisk packages (e.g: in the contrib for Bering uClibc). But that asterisk.lrp doesn't fit in a floppy anymore. OTOH: /usr/sbin/asterisk depends on libopenh323 . Now this *is* bloat. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
