Re: [asterisk-users] timing source problem

2009-04-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:09:50PM +0200, Wolfgang Pichler wrote:
 hi all,
 
 we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup
 with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk
 does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a
 siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then
 are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX -
 handling the rest of the calls.
 
 To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk
 (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens - bosch -
 so that it will be siemens - card 0 asterisk card 1 - bosch.
 
 Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is
 cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source.
 
 With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the
 siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source.
 But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of timing source
 auto card 0! messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync.
 with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as
 primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver
 timing.
 
 I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0
 = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept
 the timing from the asterisk box.
 
 Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible.
 
 So - here the questions...
  - is it possible to do what i want to do ?
  - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ?
  - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to
 asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom
 then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ? 

I missed the part about Xorcom initially and I see nobody answered it
yet.

Yes, a Xorcom PRI module should be able to take fit here and get timing
from the main Zaptel / DAHDI timing source on the system.

IIRC, though (some? all?) Digium digital cards have a sync cable option
which may be what you need here.

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[asterisk-users] timing source problem

2009-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Pichler
hi all,

we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup
with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk
does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a
siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then
are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX -
handling the rest of the calls.

To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk
(1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens - bosch -
so that it will be siemens - card 0 asterisk card 1 - bosch.

Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is
cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source.

With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the
siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source.
But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of timing source
auto card 0! messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync.
with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as
primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver
timing.

I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0
= be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept
the timing from the asterisk box.

Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible.

So - here the questions...
 - is it possible to do what i want to do ?
 - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ?
 - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to
asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom
then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ? 

any hints would be nice...

many thanks
Wolfgang


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Re: [asterisk-users] timing source problem

2009-04-24 Thread Matt Florell
Hello,

I would suggest that you first methodically try every possible
combination of zaptel.conf timing settings(each change follwed by a
hard reboot of the Asterisk server) to see if there is a magic
combination of settings that will work. I don't know if you have the
time for that, or if it takes a while for the timing issues to appear,
but that is what I would try.

If that still doesn't work, we have solved similar issues with older(2
years ago) Digium quad cards by switching to Sangoma hardware that
offers more options for forcing timing in it's wanpipe driver
software. Although when I posted about this before in another thread
the folks from Digium swear that newer Digium cards(with newer
firmware) do not have this problem using the newer Dahdi drivers.

What version of Zaptel are you using and how old is your Digium card?


MATT---


On 4/24/09, Wolfgang Pichler wpich...@yosd.at wrote:
 hi all,

  we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup
  with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk
  does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a
  siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then
  are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX -
  handling the rest of the calls.

  To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk
  (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens - bosch -
  so that it will be siemens - card 0 asterisk card 1 - bosch.

  Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is
  cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source.

  With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the
  siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source.
  But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of timing source
  auto card 0! messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync.
  with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as
  primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver
  timing.

  I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0
  = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept
  the timing from the asterisk box.

  Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible.

  So - here the questions...
   - is it possible to do what i want to do ?
   - do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ?
   - would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to
  asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom
  then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ?

  any hints would be nice...

  many thanks
  Wolfgang


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Re: [asterisk-users] timing source problem

2009-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Pichler
Hello,

the issue does occour some seconds after connection the line - but the
hard reboot takes some time...

The cards are TE420 (4th Gen) - version c01a016a.

Zaptel ist 1.4.12.1

The firmware on digium cards can not get flashed - or i am wrong (i have
never heard about that)

regards,
Wolfgang

Am Freitag, den 24.04.2009, 06:50 -0400 schrieb Matt Florell: 
 Hello,
 
 I would suggest that you first methodically try every possible
 combination of zaptel.conf timing settings(each change follwed by a
 hard reboot of the Asterisk server) to see if there is a magic
 combination of settings that will work. I don't know if you have the
 time for that, or if it takes a while for the timing issues to appear,
 but that is what I would try.
 
 If that still doesn't work, we have solved similar issues with older(2
 years ago) Digium quad cards by switching to Sangoma hardware that
 offers more options for forcing timing in it's wanpipe driver
 software. Although when I posted about this before in another thread
 the folks from Digium swear that newer Digium cards(with newer
 firmware) do not have this problem using the newer Dahdi drivers.
 
 What version of Zaptel are you using and how old is your Digium card?
 
 
 MATT---
 
 
 On 4/24/09, Wolfgang Pichler wpich...@yosd.at wrote:
  hi all,
 
   we do have some troubles with zaptel timing source - we have a setup
   with 3 telco PRI lines, connected to asterisk digium card 0 - asterisk
   does some handling - calls are leaving on digium card 1 - going to a
   siemens hipath - there is some call handling - some of the calls then
   are going from the hipath over a qsig line to a bosch integral PBX -
   handling the rest of the calls.
 
   To be able to get away from the bosch system - we like to put asterisk
   (1 port free on each card) in the middle of the path siemens - bosch -
   so that it will be siemens - card 0 asterisk card 1 - bosch.
 
   Currently the Siemens hipath is playing the network side - the bosch is
   cpe. So the siemens hipath does provide the timing source.
 
   With asterisk in the middle i can not take the timing source from the
   siemens link - because i have already the telco line as timing source.
   But when starting it in this setup - i will get lots of timing source
   auto card 0! messages. So i think the siemens timing is not in sync.
   with the telco timing - so mixed up on asterisk with telco line as
   primary timing will not work when the siemens does try to deliver
   timing.
 
   I have not tried as /etc/zaptel.conf parameter 0 als timing parameter (0
   = be master) - but i think it wont work because the siemens wont accept
   the timing from the asterisk box.
 
   Changing configuration of the siemens is not possible.
 
   So - here the questions...
- is it possible to do what i want to do ?
- do you think timing=0 in zaptel.conf will work ?
- would it be possible to connect a xorcom 2 PRI channel bank to
   asterisk to handle the qsig line between the two ? Or will the xorcom
   then also take the timing from the digum cards - telco lines ?
 
   any hints would be nice...
 
   many thanks
   Wolfgang
 
 
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