Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-23 Thread Rob Townley
On Monday, August 20, 2012, Ikka.vertika ikka.vert...@mitrakreasindo.com
wrote:
 u need  an analog telephone adaptor to connect your analog phone with
switch hub. but the device is rather expensive.

GrandStream 8 port ATA is about $200.00 which is much less than a single
new SIP phone.  Much much less expensive than new.  The Cisco ATA is about
$400.00 but may only give 4 analog telephone ports (FXS).


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 Hi folks,

 A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget
reasons. Two questions:

 1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
 2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their
analog PBX?

 Thanks!


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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread Steven Howes
On 20 Aug 2012, at 01:37, Noam Birnbaum wrote:
 A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget 
 reasons. Two questions:
 
 1. How could they use these with FreePBX?

You'd need an ATA or an analogue card. And how well they work, depends on if 
they are 'true' analogue, or have extra digital pairs etc.

 2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their 
 analog PBX?

You'd need to find out what features they have on their PBX, and compare this 
to FreePBX.

Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread Ikka.vertika
u need  an analog telephone adaptor to connect your analog phone with switch 
hub. but the device is rather expensive.


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Noam Birnbaum n...@maccentricsolutions.com wrote:

Hi folks,

A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget 
reasons. Two questions:

1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their analog 
PBX?

Thanks!


Noam Birnbaum
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877.luv.macs x666
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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 20 August 2012, Noam Birnbaum wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget
 reasons. Two questions:
 
 1. How could they use these with FreePBX?

Via so-called Analogue Terminal Adaptors (ATAs).  These are basically a SIP 
phone with an FXS interface instead of a handset and keypad.

Alternatively, up to four analogue phones could be connected through something 
like a TDM400P fitted with four FXS modules.

Note that ATAs are not cheap!  Replacing the analogue phones with SIP phones 
might actually work out less expensive.

 2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their
 analog PBX?

This is very unlikely.  Check the feature set to be sure.

Asterisk is basically a telephony construction kit; so the chances are, any 
feature they seem to be missing can be added, either in the dialplan or with 
an AGI script.



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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Noam Birnbaum
n...@maccentricsolutions.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget
 reasons. Two questions:

 1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
 2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their
 analog PBX?

 Thanks!


 Noam Birnbaum
 Mac Daddy
 http://www.maccentricsolutions.com
 877.luv.macs x666
 tweet @noamb

 Tech support — 877.luv.macs or supp...@maccentricsolutions.com


I have done a good deal installations where analog handsets, headsets,
or many faxes just made sense.  I have used T1 cards to connect to 24
port channel banks to provide true analog dialtone.

I have also used SIP based channel banks with great success but never
bothered messing with the fax issues.

FreePBX should give you way more functionality than their current PBX,
sometimes it just takes a little creativity and doing things
differently.  Always get the details of what they currently use.  An
admin assistant or secretary is usually the person that knows what
bells and whistles everyone uses.  That is the person that you really
want to befriend for a smooth implementation.

Finally, I have installed a handful of Inter Tel/Mitel PBXen along the
way, and the phones I installed were infact digital and proprietary.
Check the model number of the phones to see if they are truly analog,
which I doubt.  In that case, you can still use a FreePBX box, but you
are going to have to integrate it with the Inter Tel, I usually put
Asterisk in front and just timeout your ring to VM a little bit
shorter on the Asterisk box than the Inter Tel.

With phone prices what they are, and a very good Polycom (or whatever
you like) SIP phone so cheap, I would seriously consider ditching the
phones if you find that they are digital.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread Bryant Zimmerman


 From: Noam Birnbaum n...@maccentricsolutions.com
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:39 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

Hi folks,

A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget 
reasons. Two questions:

1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their analog 
PBX?

Thanks!

   Noam Birnbaum Mac Daddy http://www.maccentricsolutions.com 877.luv.macs 
x666 tweet @noamb
 Tech support - 877.luv.macs or supp...@maccentricsolutions.com
Noam

By the time you outfit the customer with analog gateways you are much better 
off with IP phones. You don't get all the nice features of FreePBX without 
dialing codes using analog phones.  Also are the analog phones True FXS PSTN 
phones or are they specfic to their old system?

How many phones do they need. I have six cisco IP 303 phones that I traded-in 
from a customer that wanted to step-up to our nicer 4 line Grandstream phones. 
We would be willing to make a good deal on the six as we do not use cisco. 
Contact me off list if you are interested in the phones.

Thanks

Bryant Zimmerman (ZK Tech Inc.)
616-855-1030 Ext. 2003


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Re: [asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-20 Thread Noam Birnbaum
Thanks to all who applied.  I found out that their Inter-Tel phones are 
connected to an Inter-Tel Axxess box-thingamadoodle (that's a technical term).  
Inter-Tel was purchased by Mitel in 2009 so there's no support left.  I think 
I'm gonna recommend they use IP phones or a different VoIP consultant…!

Best,
noam


On Aug 20, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Bryant Zimmerman wrote:

 From: Noam Birnbaum n...@maccentricsolutions.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:39 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [asterisk-users] using analog phones
 
 Hi folks,
 
 A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget 
 reasons. Two questions:
 
 1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
 2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their 
 analog PBX?
 
 Thanks!
 
 
 Noam Birnbaum
 Mac Daddy
 http://www.maccentricsolutions.com
 877.luv.macs x666
 tweet @noamb
 
 Tech support — 877.luv.macs or supp...@maccentricsolutions.com
 
 Noam
 
 By the time you outfit the customer with analog gateways you are much better 
 off with IP phones. You don't get all the nice features of FreePBX without 
 dialing codes using analog phones.  Also are the analog phones True FXS PSTN 
 phones or are they specfic to their old system?
 
 How many phones do they need. I have six cisco IP 303 phones that I traded-in 
 from a customer that wanted to step-up to our nicer 4 line Grandstream 
 phones. We would be willing to make a good deal on the six as we do not use 
 cisco. Contact me off list if you are interested in the phones. 
 
 Thanks
 
 Bryant Zimmerman (ZK Tech Inc.)
 616-855-1030 Ext. 2003
 
 
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[asterisk-users] using analog phones

2012-08-19 Thread Noam Birnbaum
Hi folks,

A client wants to keep their old Inter-Tel KTS analog phones for budget 
reasons. Two questions:

1. How could they use these with FreePBX?
2. Would they be losing any features that they currently have with their analog 
PBX?

Thanks!


Noam Birnbaum
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877.luv.macs x666
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