RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
I had CC readers going over the internet (with pings over 80ms) connected to Linksys PAP2. It was only successful once every 3 attempts. I had 100% reliability when it was connected on LAN. Timing is an issue, if you doing everything on LAN it should not be a problem. Just make sure you use G.711 protocol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Coulthurst Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:12 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? Incidentally, the credit cards might be on POTS lines with a Digium TDM22B. Any concerns using this arrangement? Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored... Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secured or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? Incidentally, the credit cards might be on POTS lines with a Digium TDM22B. Any concerns using this arrangement? Better test it before making any commitments. The credit card reader will be using a modem, and modem transmissions throught the TDM card have been problematic for a large percentage of those using it. There are a very large number of potential show-stoppers with it, and the majority seem to be system dependent. Therefore comments from others will be almost useless in terms of ensuring an operational system. Having worked with several relative to TDM problems, I'd have to guess that somewhere near 90% of the implementations won't handle fax/modem calls. However, I have no idea whether those problems will impact the slower-speed credit card reader modem use. If it doesn't work, a reasonable alternative might be to use an spa-1000 (or the equivalent), but that would need to be tested as well. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
Yet another alternative would be to process credit cards over the Internet. Of course then you need a PC at the POS, but Internet card processing is much faster than using the modem in a stand alone terminal (no dial/negotiation for each transaction) BTW, from my experience with fax, I would not terminate a modem device to anything but analog PSTN. Credit card systems have an even lower user tolerance for unreliablity...if the CC terminal is unreliable people will lose trust in the whole system because they will be losing money. Just my $0.02 On 17/05/05, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? Incidentally, the credit cards might be on POTS lines with a Digium TDM22B. Any concerns using this arrangement? Better test it before making any commitments. The credit card reader will be using a modem, and modem transmissions throught the TDM card have been problematic for a large percentage of those using it. There are a very large number of potential show-stoppers with it, and the majority seem to be system dependent. Therefore comments from others will be almost useless in terms of ensuring an operational system. Having worked with several relative to TDM problems, I'd have to guess that somewhere near 90% of the implementations won't handle fax/modem calls. However, I have no idea whether those problems will impact the slower-speed credit card reader modem use. If it doesn't work, a reasonable alternative might be to use an spa-1000 (or the equivalent), but that would need to be tested as well. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? I just tested this yesterday as the resort I am installing at has two card machines. I found that the call had to go through the line designated for that function, but that may be particular to this location. The lines are terminated in an Adtran Channel Bank, and routing the call to a PSTN line worked without any problem. The call does go to the US but I did not try sending it over IP as we don't pay for it anyway, the bank pays the charges. Chris Mason www.anguillaguide.com Tel: (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
I don't have any problems using a pots line with the credit cards. In fact I have in some locations a Sipura that is attached to the cc machine. Works just set it up just like a fax using ulaw only. Ariel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Coulthurst Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:12 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? Incidentally, the credit cards might be on POTS lines with a Digium TDM22B. Any concerns using this arrangement? Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 20:02 +1000, Boris Bakchiev wrote: I had CC readers going over the internet (with pings over 80ms) connected to Linksys PAP2. It was only successful once every 3 attempts. I had 100% reliability when it was connected on LAN. Timing is an issue, if you doing everything on LAN it should not be a problem. Just make sure you use G.711 protocol. I have consistent success with a customer who has their eftpos terminal connected to a TDM card, routed out via a TE410p card. Regards, Adam -- -- Adam Goryachev Website Managers Ph: +61 2 9345 4395[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +61 2 9345 4396www.websitemanagers.com.au ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
On 5/17/05, snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/05, Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? Two main problems with this. First off, it's against Visa/Mastercard security regulations to transmit card numbers unencrypted over the internet, while the same is not true for sending them over the pstn. I think I was incorrectly assuming the ip trunks were over the public internet, so never mind this comment. Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:48:51 -0700 From: snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and Credit Card Machines To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 5/17/05, snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/05, Chris Coulthurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning to deploy an Asterisk server at a local restaurant and was thinking: I hear a lot of troubles using fax machines with IP trunks. What about using Credit Card readers? Same basic technology right? A slow modem to negotiate the transaction. Does anyone have any caveats? Suggestions? - I have tried a setup with a client using a spa-2000 to connect the eftpos terminal lines terminated on the local Lan to pots with SPA-3000's (using G711). Couldn't get it to work, found a clue that I need to kill echo cancellation on the line when using a modem, but haven't tried it yet. If Modems can get any sort reasonable speed through an * server I have a number of clients with hotels that would jump at them. Biggest problem at the moment is that guests want to use dial up in room and it doesn't work at the moment with my * setups. cr ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
