Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
A modern CF card has about 10,000 write cycles before it starts failing. Don't know where you're buying that crap but quality CF modules have a per-sector lifetime of between 300,000 and 2,000,000 write cycles. On top of this, good quality CF modules have very sophisticated wear levelling firmware that map external block addresses to different physical sector addresses to reduce the possibility of burning out specific sectors from frequent updates. In addition to my work with NetVoice Communications I am also associated with a Linux fax software company (www.faximum.com) that ships a fax server appliance which run entirely on CF. We have customers sending hundreds of faxes per day (comparable to hundreds of voice mails per day) without any trouble after a year and a half (nor would we expect any problem). I.M.H.O. The fears expressed on this list about the lifetime of CF modules are not based on either the facts or empirical evidence. g. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 12:39, George Pajari wrote: A modern CF card has about 10,000 write cycles before it starts failing. Don't know where you're buying that crap but quality CF modules have a per-sector lifetime of between 300,000 and 2,000,000 write cycles. On top of this, good quality CF modules have very sophisticated wear levelling firmware that map external block addresses to different physical sector addresses to reduce the possibility of burning out specific sectors from frequent updates. In addition to my work with NetVoice Communications I am also associated with a Linux fax software company (www.faximum.com) that ships a fax server appliance which run entirely on CF. We have customers sending hundreds of faxes per day (comparable to hundreds of voice mails per day) without any trouble after a year and a half (nor would we expect any problem). I.M.H.O. The fears expressed on this list about the lifetime of CF modules are not based on either the facts or empirical evidence. Did you not listen to what I related here? I have been working in the medical dictation/transcription field for several years now, and we are experiencing flash cards that wear out. These cards are being used in handheld voice recorders. For a heavy user, we get less than 2 years on the card before it fails. For others, it is a longer term. The problem still isn't whether or not it can do it, but rather what is the cost of failure. The problem exists with all hardware, not just flash. Flash has a known estimated life just like other components, it is just measured differently. So please understand that we are exuding concern over longterm reliability of a system that is being designed probably to be tossed after a few years. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Kingston claims 300K: http://www.kingston.com/products/MKF_2603CF.pdf http://www.kingston.com/literature/MKF_591EliteProCF.pdf Sandisk Industrial claims 300K-2M industrial, but only 100K extended cycles (whatever that may mean): http://www.sandisk.com/industrial_cf_card_specifications.html Here's the culprit: http://www.toshiba.com/taec/adinfo/nandflash/ ...clearly states that MLC NAND Flash memory has an expected endurance of 10,000 read/write cycles. Bottom line is that flash memory designed for industrial application is likely much more reliable than flash-cards purchased for digital cameras and such. Toshiba is actively promoting a consumer flash memory technology with an expected endurance of 10,000 cycles. While that technology will be more than sufficient for the intended audience, this would present a performance risk for an embedded application; so if I wanted to replace my HD with a flash-card, I would need to be rather mindful of the type of flash memory utilized in that card. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Pajari Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform A modern CF card has about 10,000 write cycles before it starts failing. Don't know where you're buying that crap but quality CF modules have a per-sector lifetime of between 300,000 and 2,000,000 write cycles. On top of this, good quality CF modules have very sophisticated wear levelling firmware that map external block addresses to different physical sector addresses to reduce the possibility of burning out specific sectors from frequent updates. In addition to my work with NetVoice Communications I am also associated with a Linux fax software company (www.faximum.com) that ships a fax server appliance which run entirely on CF. We have customers sending hundreds of faxes per day (comparable to hundreds of voice mails per day) without any trouble after a year and a half (nor would we expect any problem). I.M.H.O. The fears expressed on this list about the lifetime of CF modules are not based on either the facts or empirical evidence. g. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 01:05, Jay Milk wrote: Good call -- write cycle life of 10^3-10^4 are probably not much of an issue in a digital camera, but would probably die quickly if used as a HD replacement. Linux would have to run w/o swap. CFII+ harddrive? You're talking about a microdrive, right? While those are getting much more affordable, a laptop drive is still cheaper. The life in a digital camera isn't the concern, it is the low loss of opertunity if it fails. Not to mention it should live as long as the usefullness of the cameras. I think you are right about the cost of a laptop drive. A micro 2.2g drive is $148 plus an adapter to hook it to standard IDE. For that price you could probably get a 40gig drive in laptop form factor or 200gig in normal form factor. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:06:09PM -0500, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 15:12, Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? I'm sure it has been covered, but flash would not make a good long term voicemail option. Flash has a specific amount of times blocks can be written to. My company has some hand held recorders in the hands of doctors doing patient dictation, they are starting to see memory failures after a little more than a year or so of use. This is due partly because of the size of files. Each file will span multiple blocks, and therefore increases the likelyhood you will come back and write on the block again soon. A large card would stave off the problem by allowing the least used method a bit longer before reusing the blocks again. A modern CF card has about 10,000 write cycles before it starts failing. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Hi, -Original Message- Please, don't store your dynamic sound files (voicemail) on CF. You can only write to CF so many times, so the card may start suffering failures. You can easily add a small harddrive or more memory and ramdisk software. If people really want to use CF, you could store a kernel and initrd on it and boot your system into a ramdisk. Most of the single-floppy Linux router distros work like that. This way, you're only reading from the CF once per boot (and barely writing at all). Correct. There are some scripts around on the net that do this (including commit/rollback functionality). I may have mentioned this before - one of my collegues has written a paper on this including implementation for routers etc. Can be adapted for Asterisk. Paper is dutch though :-) You would have to come up with a way to make storage of your voicemail persistent, but this could be done by using the existing feature of e-mailing the message... Or even some form of remote disk (NFS ?) Florian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Hi Jay, I am working on this. I am using a 256MB CF. I will keep you informed. Daniel Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
I had considered trying this but from what I have read flash drive have a 1million read write life expetancy? If you were to use one of these as your harddrive would it not wear out pretty quick? Or am I wrong? Kyle Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
It can from an NFS mounted image just fine. You don't need to spend the bucks on flash RAM. Linux can boot off the net then do the moont. This machine is also headless (no CRT or keyboard) and no CD, HD or Floppy. I wish the AMD CPU would run without a fan on the heat sink but when I disable the fans temps go way up. --- Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Hi, -Original Message- Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? Please, don't store your dynamic sound files (voicemail) on CF. You can only write to CF so many times, so the card may start suffering failures. You can easily add a small harddrive or more memory and ramdisk software. Florian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 15:12, Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? I'm sure it has been covered, but flash would not make a good long term voicemail option. Flash has a specific amount of times blocks can be written to. My company has some hand held recorders in the hands of doctors doing patient dictation, they are starting to see memory failures after a little more than a year or so of use. This is due partly because of the size of files. Each file will span multiple blocks, and therefore increases the likelyhood you will come back and write on the block again soon. A large card would stave off the problem by allowing the least used method a bit longer before reusing the blocks again. All in all, you would probably be better off for storing the voicemail in a CFII+ hard drive that doesn't add much to power, weight, heat, nor noise all while reducing the chance of burning through the flash. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Hi, On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 18:07, Kyle Hagan wrote: I had considered trying this but from what I have read flash drive have a 1million read write life expetancy? If you were to use one of these as your harddrive would it not wear out pretty quick? Or am I wrong? Kyle One idea is to have a linux/asterisk version on the flash drive that boots and load everything into memory, with ramdisk et all. Similar to a linux/asterisk bootable from CD. But with the flash disk you can configure asterisk without the need to burn another CD or use a flacky floppy... The flash disk is only read when the machine boots. You can write to it for configuration data... 1 million times will last much more than a regular hard disk this way. But you will still need a hard disk for voicemails... -- Nicolas Gudino [EMAIL PROTECTED] House Internet S.R.L. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
On Wed, 19 May 2004, Florian Overkamp wrote: Please, don't store your dynamic sound files (voicemail) on CF. You can only write to CF so many times, so the card may start suffering failures. You can easily add a small harddrive or more memory and ramdisk software. If people really want to use CF, you could store a kernel and initrd on it and boot your system into a ramdisk. Most of the single-floppy Linux router distros work like that. This way, you're only reading from the CF once per boot (and barely writing at all). You would have to come up with a way to make storage of your voicemail persistent, but this could be done by using the existing feature of e-mailing the message... Cheers, Vic Cross ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
I have Asterisk running in a 6 MB flash image and about 10 MB of RAM on an Allwell STB-1030 (now no longer in production). There are some issues but in general it's working fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jay Milk Sent: 20 May 2004 04:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Well - you would usually only use the flash to boot a system image and then run stuff in memory from a RAM disk. 1 mio writes is pretty much if only for updates :) Even with the rate Asterisk gets updated and an update each day it will last forever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kyle Hagan Sent: 20 May 2004 05:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform I had considered trying this but from what I have read flash drive have a 1million read write life expetancy? If you were to use one of these as your harddrive would it not wear out pretty quick? Or am I wrong? Kyle Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
VIA got a system and CPU that can run up to 1 GHz without a fan. I am currently trying to find a reasonably priced source for these in Asia (I stay in Malaysia), but it's a little tricky to find them reasonably priced unless I buy 10.000+ of them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: 20 May 2004 05:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform It can from an NFS mounted image just fine. You don't need to spend the bucks on flash RAM. Linux can boot off the net then do the moont. This machine is also headless (no CRT or keyboard) and no CD, HD or Floppy. I wish the AMD CPU would run without a fan on the heat sink but when I disable the fans temps go way up. --- Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
In the system I designed (running on a 16 MB flash DoC) I only enable voicemail if there's an NFS mount available to store the voicemails. You're right - wouldn't be ideal to store the voicemails on the flash. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Florian Overkamp Sent: 20 May 2004 05:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform Hi, -Original Message- Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? Please, don't store your dynamic sound files (voicemail) on CF. You can only write to CF so many times, so the card may start suffering failures. You can easily add a small harddrive or more memory and ramdisk software. Florian ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Corrections, up to 600MHz without a fan. The 1GHz version requires a fan to cool. I've 2 of the 1GHz boxes and 1 800Mhz box running Asterisk. You're right, it's very difficult to get in south Asia. I lived across the causeway. Had to order mine from caseoutlet. Lars Boegild Thomsen wrote: VIA got a system and CPU that can run up to 1 GHz without a fan. I am currently trying to find a reasonably priced source for these in Asia (I stay in Malaysia), but it's a little tricky to find them reasonably priced unless I buy 10.000+ of them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: 20 May 2004 05:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform It can from an NFS mounted image just fine. You don't need to spend the bucks on flash RAM. Linux can boot off the net then do the moont. This machine is also headless (no CRT or keyboard) and no CD, HD or Floppy. I wish the AMD CPU would run without a fan on the heat sink but when I disable the fans temps go way up. --- Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gelson Dias Santos Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform David H Hickman wrote: I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) Could you post some more info about your setup? Like board brand/model, what kind of interfaces are you using and even some photos :-) Seems a very interesting project... is there anybody else running a small/compact asterisk system? I would love to have such a small system that I could send to parents, instruct them to turn it on and plug their pstn line and broadband connection and have a pstn x sip intelligent call router that requires no user intervention. Gelson David Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
Good call -- write cycle life of 10^3-10^4 are probably not much of an issue in a digital camera, but would probably die quickly if used as a HD replacement. Linux would have to run w/o swap. CFII+ harddrive? You're talking about a microdrive, right? While those are getting much more affordable, a laptop drive is still cheaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 15:12, Jay Milk wrote: Since this is related... Does anyone have Asterisk working on a Flash-drive? I was considering this as an alternative to having a harddrive in my machine, thus keeping down noise and heat. A 512MB CF card should be plenty to get Linux and * booted, another 64 or 128MB card should be plenty for voice-mail and such. Any takers? I'm sure it has been covered, but flash would not make a good long term voicemail option. Flash has a specific amount of times blocks can be written to. My company has some hand held recorders in the hands of doctors doing patient dictation, they are starting to see memory failures after a little more than a year or so of use. This is due partly because of the size of files. Each file will span multiple blocks, and therefore increases the likelyhood you will come back and write on the block again soon. A large card would stave off the problem by allowing the least used method a bit longer before reusing the blocks again. All in all, you would probably be better off for storing the voicemail in a CFII+ hard drive that doesn't add much to power, weight, heat, nor noise all while reducing the chance of burning through the flash. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on Compact PCI platform
I have it working on an industrial single board pc. :) x-tad-smallerDavid Hickman TSG Computer Consulting - Auctions 314-865-4752 x2 /x-tad-smaller On May 18, 2004, at 8:42 PM, Jacques Leisy wrote: Anybody running * on a compact PCI platform? I got a few CPCI boards on eBay including a T1 Natural Microsystems AG4000? Any hope to ever get * running on that platform? Linux Suse 9.0 is running fine Thanks Jacques
