RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
Yep, I'm stunned that as a technical social network we're not leveraging the technology through webcasts/online presentation, dial in conference calls for the sessions etc. Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Junior Sent: Monday, 10 October 2005 9:37 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts? I'd be curious to hear any Podcasts from the upcoming Astricon conference. If anyone in attendance/organizing the event is going to be recording any audio please share. Cheers, HJ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
On Monday 10 October 2005 23:10, Dean Collins wrote: Yep, I'm stunned that as a technical social network we're not leveraging the technology through webcasts/online presentation, dial in conference calls for the sessions etc. We did have dialin conference calls and even IRC up on the big screen during the last Astricon. I made a bit of an ass of myself as I did not realize my IRC ramblings were being broadcast in 6 high letters for all to see. :-) -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 23:10 -0400, Dean Collins wrote: Yep, I'm stunned that as a technical social network we're not leveraging the technology through webcasts/online presentation, dial in conference calls for the sessions etc. But they charge admission for astricon, who would pay for the dial in conference? :P -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
The question is would people choose not to go if it was necessarily available as a broadcast. You're thinking old school. Dean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Sent: Monday, 10 October 2005 11:57 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts? On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 23:10 -0400, Dean Collins wrote: Yep, I'm stunned that as a technical social network we're not leveraging the technology through webcasts/online presentation, dial in conference calls for the sessions etc. But they charge admission for astricon, who would pay for the dial in conference? :P -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 00:05 -0400, Dean Collins wrote: The question is would people choose not to go if it was necessarily available as a broadcast. You're thinking old school. Dean I am thinking the convention was set up for money, I cant believe that the rate generates no profit. Not that profit is a bad thing, but anyone doing something for profit isnt going to stab themselves in the back to prevent that profit. There is added value to go in person, you get to have side conversations, do networking, get to see the slide shows (which can be done via a webpage) etc. But there is something better about being there in person. So I believe people would go, but maybe not as many, and there is a cost to providing it voip style, bandwidth, servers, etc. Of course if you really wanted to be clever you would have several nodes that people call into, which are all connected to the main server that is at the conroom hooked up to the microphone, etc. That way all the traffic to the main server is stable and relatively low, and the leaf nodes (other asterisk boxes) have the brunt of all the traffic. This way the hub server would not be flooded off ruining everything for everyone when 134091309451093 people try to connect to it. Adding the record functionality and muting participants would also mean that the hub server would be able to make audio files available after the lecture is over. The main server could run a shoutcast stream to be fed to mp3player() or something on the leafs (idealy you would want a proxy on the leafs so each leaf causes 1 and only 1 stream off the main hub. Could be a good marketing tool. Tout the final number of clients connected in such a distributed environment listening live. Show the power to skeptics. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
On 10/11/05 12:34 trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com said the following: Adding the record functionality and muting participants would also mean that the hub server would be able to make audio files available after i'd think that muting would be a prerequisite, even if recording was not done. it'd be audio bedlam otherwise, and the speakers would be drowned out. connected in such a distributed environment listening live. Show the power to skeptics. we had such ideas to use asterisk to broadcast our recent HackInTheBox Security Conference (conference.hackinthebox.org), but bandwidth prices at the venue were too high to make this viable, given that it's not revenue generating. -- Regards, /\_/\ All dogs go to heaven. [EMAIL PROTECTED](0 0)http://www.alphaque.com/ +==oOO--(_)--OOo==+ | for a in past present future; do| | for b in clients employers associates relatives neighbours pets; do | | echo The opinions here in no way reflect the opinions of my $a $b. | | done; done | +=+ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Astricon Podcasts?
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 12:57 +0800, Dinesh Nair wrote: On 10/11/05 12:34 trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com said the following: Adding the record functionality and muting participants would also mean that the hub server would be able to make audio files available after i'd think that muting would be a prerequisite, even if recording was not done. it'd be audio bedlam otherwise, and the speakers would be drowned out. connected in such a distributed environment listening live. Show the power to skeptics. we had such ideas to use asterisk to broadcast our recent HackInTheBox Security Conference (conference.hackinthebox.org), but bandwidth prices at the venue were too high to make this viable, given that it's not revenue generating. corporate sponsors :P Aside from that there are alternatives if you are just doing a one way stream. With the proper gear wifi can carry a signal a considerable distance, providing you can get the elevation on one end or the other, or both (easiest since total height is divided between the two sites). Most venues dont like people rigging up a c band dish in the swimming pool area though :P Then feed that to some site that is more remote than the venue, perhaps a home or office of a local person, who gets the feeds to a bigger badder server. If doing one way latency and all that isnt that big of an issue and you dont need that much bandwidth. If you were to only shoutcast streams at telephone quality you could easily do that over dialup. There are $10/mo tollfree dialup providers in the US that could be used. 1 stream which feeds a bigger server that handles all the clients. Or depending on need, one stream off dialup to a server that feeds 5+ leaf nodes where the end users connect to. If doing it asterisk style you can use mp3player() within asterisk to connect to the aggregator system (ie what dialup feeds) or even the leafs if you are big enough, yes there will be some delay, but it would still work, however complex this has gotten. http://lbtech.com/dialup/ (I am not affiliated with them just know they advertise what I claimed earlier). Monthly cost - $9.95 (NO additional fees or taxes, no matter how much you use the connection) All off a US tollfree. Could work to get the feeds out of the building to a server somewhere to distribute that as needed in whatever formats are required. And if its a lecture hall, a direct feed from the microphone into a system that does the streaming, you only need mono and low quality bitrate for it to be quite acceptable. In theory, you could do several lecture halls at the same time off one system with one inet connection, sound gear would be the hardest thing for a laptop. Maybe usb/BT audio devices given limited port spaces on laptops. Maybe multiple laptops doing wifi or whatever to each other to share that connection. Even if it costs a small setup fee to get the outside line from a conference hall (they will normally charge at least per outbound call, if not a fee to have a line activated in the hall itself) the total cost should be well under $20 to provide this, plus whatever it takes to distro the streams to individuals, and that could actually be lowered by having individuals with spare bandwidth donate systems to act as leaf nodes. Just a thought for next time this becomes an issue :) But to spread out the asterisk boxes in theory you could support many hundreds if not thousands of clients at the same time off what appears to be the same feed. Using something liek ser (www.iptel.org/ser) as a front end you could provide a unified sip address to people and have ser do load balancing to the actual asterisk boxes acting as an application server. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
