Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-20 Thread Goran Dj
usecallerid=yes
hidecallerid=no
callerid=asreceived
usecallingpres=yes
callwaiting=no
callwaitingcallerid=yes
threewaycalling=no
transfer=no
cancallforward=yes
callreturn=no
echocancel=yes
echocancelwhenbridged=yes
echotraining=yes
group=1
callgroup=1
pickupgroup=1
immediate=no
busydetect=yes
busycount=10

context=pstn
rxgain=8.15
txgain=2.0
signalling=fxs_ks
channel = 1





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From: Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Paste the section from zapata.conf that handles the x101p.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread Matt
A private call is a call that someone has specifically blocked.   An
out of area or unknown call is simply a call that the caller-id
did not come through on correctly, for some reason.

On 9/18/05, Goran Dj. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any method to make difference between Hidden (Private) and
 unknown (Out of area) incoming calls on ZAP/x101p? I want to block any
 hidden call, and to allow unknow calls, but ZAP channel (X101P) always
 delivering empty CALLERID= in both cases.
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread Goran Dj
Yes, I know that, but, how to distinguish between them at incoming call?


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A private call is a call that someone has specifically blocked.   An
out of area or unknown call is simply a call that the caller-id
did not come through on correctly, for some reason.

On 9/18/05, Goran Dj. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any method to make difference between Hidden (Private) and
 unknown (Out of area) incoming calls on ZAP/x101p? I want to block
any
 hidden call, and to allow unknow calls, but ZAP channel (X101P) always
 delivering empty CALLERID= in both cases.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread Matt
Does your phone company not pass on to you UNKNOWN or PRIVATE in
the caller-ID field?

On 9/19/05, Goran Dj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I know that, but, how to distinguish between them at incoming call?
 
 
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 Sent: pon 19. sep 2005 16:22
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 area?
 
 
 A private call is a call that someone has specifically blocked.   An
 out of area or unknown call is simply a call that the caller-id
 did not come through on correctly, for some reason.
 
 On 9/18/05, Goran Dj. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there any method to make difference between Hidden (Private) and
  unknown (Out of area) incoming calls on ZAP/x101p? I want to block
 any
  hidden call, and to allow unknow calls, but ZAP channel (X101P) always
  delivering empty CALLERID= in both cases.
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread jltaylor
out-of-area is displayed for calls that originate from LECs that have not
implemented caller id.

James Taylor
MetroTel
3505 Summerhill Road
Suite 11
Texarkana, Tx  75503
903-793-1956


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 area?


 I don't believe you can trust the keywords that may or maynot be in the
 calleridname. The telco folks will frequently honor anything that a
 company wants inserted as a name (assuming a reasonable request).

 So, even if you get the correct logic in place for asterisk code,
 the end result is most likely not going to give you what you want.

 I know a telco tech that will change the libd database to say
 God Calling, place a call to a buddy, then change it back to the
 original string after the call. Also, some itsp's allow you to change
 that string to anything reasonable.

 

  Yes, I know that, but, how to distinguish between them at incoming call?
 
 
  - Original Message -
 
  A private call is a call that someone has specifically blocked.   An
  out of area or unknown call is simply a call that the caller-id
  did not come through on correctly, for some reason.
 
  On 9/18/05, Goran Dj. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is there any method to make difference between Hidden (Private) and
   unknown (Out of area) incoming calls on ZAP/x101p? I want to block
  any
   hidden call, and to allow unknow calls, but ZAP channel (X101P) always
   delivering empty CALLERID= in both cases.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 13:48 -0500, jltaylor wrote:
 out-of-area is displayed for calls that originate from LECs that have not
 implemented caller id.

Or for companies that dont share it, this is sometimes the issue for
foreign originated calls.  Caller id is sent via SS7, and some companies
that do have caller id, and do have SS7 for other aspects for some
reason do not transfer it globally.  I have seen this from calls from
the UK to the US for example (but not all such calls).

In America the FCC basically requires that if you have caller id support
you must pass caller id data, so most companies in the US pass caller
id.  The federal government however always seems to pass 000-000-, I
guess to keep it 'private' but not trigger any privacy blockers so the
call goes through.  MCI sales team used to pass 'out of area' for the
same reason.  


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread Goran Dj
I have CID identificator connected in parallel with X101P/Asterisk, and
it displays Private for hidden calls, and Out of area for calls from
rural areas (with old phone systems). But Asterisk always deliver
CALLERIDNUM=, CALLERIDNAME= in both cases.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Differ between private and out of area?

2005-09-19 Thread Rich Adamson

 I have CID identificator connected in parallel with X101P/Asterisk, and
 it displays Private for hidden calls, and Out of area for calls from
 rural areas (with old phone systems). But Asterisk always deliver
 CALLERIDNUM=, CALLERIDNAME= in both cases.

Paste the section from zapata.conf that handles the x101p.


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