Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Chalk
Mike Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you aren't going for the echo cancellation,
 then I think either card will do fine.

 We are now deploying only the A200 because we
 never know if echo will be an issue or if it can
 be tuned away

Thanks, Mike.

That's a good point in favour of the A200 - it's
cheap to add the hardware echo canceller if it's
needed.

Nick.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Chalk
John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Though many will probably disagree, you will be
 LOTS better off with the Sangoma A200 It is MUCH
 more forgiving regarding Motherboards and the
 PCI 2.2 requirement,

That's one of my concerns. I'm working with
refurbished hardware, so don't have much freedom
of choice in motherboards.

I'm planning on using a fairly good Intel dual-
socket-370 server board, but I can't afford to
make the wrong choice.

 even though the software installation
 instructions leave much to be desired for the
 inexperienced,

Is that inexperienced in telephony, or inex-
perienced in Linux?

I have zero telephony experience, but plenty with
Linux. :-)

Nick.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-02 Thread Nick Chalk
Chris Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The site in Northampton with 3 FXO has been an
 absolute nightmare over the last 9 months the
 system's been in place.

 Once asterisk 1.2 was deployed, things improved
 remarkably.

Do you think that was improved code in v1.2, or
the result of your calibration?

 I took the time on-site to properly configure
 the txgain and rxgain using a milliwatt tone
 coming from one of our other servers in a
 datacentre

Is that procedure documented somewhere? I've found
the asterisk config for generating the tone, but
what are you measuring on the test system to set
the correct gains?

 One thing worth checking with BT - if you can
 find someone who can give you an accurate answer

:-)

 - is whether the Featureline will give you
 disconnect supervision. If it will, so much the
 better, as * 1.2 seems to have usable support
 for it.

Thanks, I'll look into that.

 It's still not as good as the building next door
 where they have 2 ISDN BRIs

Yes, that might make life easier. I don't think I
can make the argument for converting to ISDN yet,
though. :-/

Thanks, Chris!

Nick.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-01 Thread Mike Clark

Nick Chalk wrote:


Evening all.

I'm looking at building an Asterisk system for one
of the projects of the Charity where I'm the
SysAdmin.

The project has two analogue phone lines - BT
Featureline Compact, we're in the UK - that I'd
like Asterisk to handle.

My current quandary is which FXO interface to use.
I've been looking at the Digium TDM400P and
Sangoma A200, which are similar prices for two FXO
lines. Can anyone comment on the relative merits
of those two devices? Are there any other options
in the same price range?

As we're a small Charity, price is a major
consideration. I don't think we can afford the
A200's hardware echo-canceller, for instance.

Thanks for your help.

Nick.

 


Nick:

If you aren't going for the echo cancellation, then I think either card 
will do fine.We have over twenty five systems deployed in rural eastern 
North Carolina locations with six analog lines each and the majority 
work fine with TDM400s, though we have had to replace several with 
Sangoma A200 with echo cancellation to eliminate echo. We are now 
deploying only the A200 because we never know if echo will be an issue 
or if it can be tuned away and it is just easier for support to not 
have that worry.


Mike Clark


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-01 Thread John Novack
Though many will probably disagree, you will be LOTS better off with the 
Sangoma A200
It is MUCH more forgiving regarding Motherboards and the PCI 2.2 
requirement, even though the software installation instructions leave 
much to be desired for the inexperienced, it does work, and Sangoma  
fixed a problem I discovered with their FXS module software.
My first experience with Digium and the TDM400 was, when it couldn't be 
seen in a motherboard that said it was PCI 2.2,  Digium's response was 
try another motherboard


John Novack


Nick Chalk wrote:


Evening all.

I'm looking at building an Asterisk system for one
of the projects of the Charity where I'm the
SysAdmin.

The project has two analogue phone lines - BT
Featureline Compact, we're in the UK - that I'd
like Asterisk to handle.

My current quandary is which FXO interface to use.
I've been looking at the Digium TDM400P and
Sangoma A200, which are similar prices for two FXO
lines. Can anyone comment on the relative merits
of those two devices? Are there any other options
in the same price range?

As we're a small Charity, price is a major
consideration. I don't think we can afford the
A200's hardware echo-canceller, for instance.

Thanks for your help.

Nick.

 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Digium TDM400P vs Sangoma A200 for 2 x FXO

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Bagnall
I've no experience with the A200, so I can't really pass judgement on it. We
have 2 sites with TDM400P cards currently deployed (one with 3 FXO, the
other with 1 FXO and 3 FXS). The site in Northampton with 3 FXO has been an
absolute nightmare over the last 9 months the system's been in place.
Initially we had big problems with echo that no amount of tweaking of the
echo parameters would fix.

Once asterisk 1.2 was deployed, things improved remarkably. I took the time
on-site to properly configure the txgain and rxgain using a milliwatt tone
coming from one of our other servers in a datacentre (rather than relying on
using ztmonitor -v whilst the client was making/receiving calls - you can't
guarantee whether the party they're talking to has *their* gains properly
configured, which means you end up with completely different results on
every call). Once I'd got the gains properly configured, fairly standard
echo cancellation settings of on and echotraining=800 seem to work
relatively well.

One thing worth checking with BT - if you can find someone who can give you
an accurate answer - is whether the Featureline will give you disconnect
supervision. If it will, so much the better, as * 1.2 seems to have usable
support for it. If it works reliably, you can increase the number of busy
tones to detect before a channel is killed (this will massively reduce
incidences of false hangups).

It's still not as good as the building next door where they have 2 ISDN
BRIs, but it works, and I've not had any complaints for the last month since
their box was upgraded to 1.2.

Hope that helps.

(shameless plug - I have a spare TDM400 card here if you're looking to
acquire one at a reduced price - discuss off-list if interested)

Regards,

Chris
-- 
C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited
This email is made from 100% recycled electrons


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