Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On January 10, 2005 07:50 pm, Henry Devito wrote:
> Does asterisk support the intel 537/md3200 chipset?  I don't want to start
> any flames here, I know all about using generic crap in asterisk,[*]  which
> I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a customer
> demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will not
> spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
> company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.

Give him a Sipura then or find another customer.  It sounds like he doesn't 
have Clue One about what he really wants.

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-11 Thread Rich Adamson
> > Yes, you can buy a clone.  Yes, it may work currently (although I wouldn't
> want to guess for how long).  Also, the ?>?>>   
> > actual cards that the X100Ps are based on have stopped being produced by
> Intel, so you're out of luck as far as a 
> > replacement goes in 6 months time.
> 
> I though that the X100P were a tigerjet chip?  I'm not looking at one right
> now but I've seen the Tigerjet branding on the real X100Ps and also on the
> TDM400 board too.  Actually I have a couple of branded tigerjet "telephone
> gateway" (or something) cards that are identical [in appearance] to X100Ps
> (although I remember that in zaptel they were identified as generic) - I'm
> not using them now but they seemed to work fine. 
> 
> > Don't forget that the impedance on the X100P (or clone) is 600Ohms so you
> won't be able to use it without echo outside 
> > of the United States.
> 
> Thats very interesting - I've certinly had echo annoyances (not major
> problems - echo canel got rid of it after a second or so) and I put it down
> to bad quality telephone lines (probably true too).

I believe one can characterize the TigerJet name as the pci controller
chip, but the card has several other chips as well. My x100p card has
a heatsink glued on top of one of the chips so I can't see the actual
part number; I believe its the Tigerjet chip however.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Totaro

> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:09:54 -0600, Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> > > Does asterisk support the intel 537/md3200 chipset?  I don't want to
start
> > > any flames here, I know all about using generic crap in asterisk,[*]
which
> > > I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a
customer
> > > demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will
not
> > > spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
> > > company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.

Sometimes it is prudent to fire a customer.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-11 Thread Derek Conniffe
> Yes, you can buy a clone.  Yes, it may work currently (although I wouldn't
want to guess for how long).  Also, the ?>?>>   
> actual cards that the X100Ps are based on have stopped being produced by
Intel, so you're out of luck as far as a 
> replacement goes in 6 months time.

I though that the X100P were a tigerjet chip?  I'm not looking at one right
now but I've seen the Tigerjet branding on the real X100Ps and also on the
TDM400 board too.  Actually I have a couple of branded tigerjet "telephone
gateway" (or something) cards that are identical [in appearance] to X100Ps
(although I remember that in zaptel they were identified as generic) - I'm
not using them now but they seemed to work fine. 

> Don't forget that the impedance on the X100P (or clone) is 600Ohms so you
won't be able to use it without echo outside 
> of the United States.

Thats very interesting - I've certinly had echo annoyances (not major
problems - echo canel got rid of it after a second or so) and I put it down
to bad quality telephone lines (probably true too).


Derek

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-10 Thread Dr. Matthew Roller
http://www.digitnetworks.com/store/
$30

Its the card on the bottom left, I have one,  which I have been
testing with,  works without any problems so far.


On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:09:54 -0600, Rich Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Does asterisk support the intel 537/md3200 chipset?  I don't want to start
> > any flames here, I know all about using generic crap in asterisk,[*]  which
> > I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a customer
> > demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will not
> > spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
> > company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.
> 
> There were several cards manufactured with the 537/md3200 chips. One
> model was designed for US use while others were for global use. The
> x100p was the US type. An individual from the UK was just implementing
> a 537/md3200 type in the last week and had some echo issues. Not sure
> which exact model he had though; but best guess was a US type. (The
> US type used a Silicon Labs 3012 chip for 600 ohm pstn lines, while
> the global version used a different chip for other line impedences.)
> 
> There should be plenty of digium x100p's around for very reasonable
> prices given they've been removed from the digium web site.
> 
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-10 Thread Rich Adamson
 
> Does asterisk support the intel 537/md3200 chipset?  I don't want to start
> any flames here, I know all about using generic crap in asterisk,[*]  which
> I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a customer
> demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will not
> spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
> company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.

There were several cards manufactured with the 537/md3200 chips. One
model was designed for US use while others were for global use. The
x100p was the US type. An individual from the UK was just implementing 
a 537/md3200 type in the last week and had some echo issues. Not sure 
which exact model he had though; but best guess was a US type. (The
US type used a Silicon Labs 3012 chip for 600 ohm pstn lines, while
the global version used a different chip for other line impedences.)

There should be plenty of digium x100p's around for very reasonable
prices given they've been removed from the digium web site.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-10 Thread Matt Riddell
Henry Devito wrote:
I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a customer
demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will not
spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.
Is that really the kind of customer you want?  One who is prepared to 
risk system stability for a few dollars?  I would say that if something 
breaks, he will be the same type of customer who wants you to fix it for 
free...

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that maybe he's 10 
years old and has saved his pocket money - after all, who wouldn't want 
to help a poor 10 year old just getting into Linux and VoIP?

Seeing as Digium no longer sells the X100P cards (of which you are 
hoping to buy a clone), I guess it's all right to use their bandwidth 
for this...

Yes, you can buy a clone.  Yes, it may work currently (although I 
wouldn't want to guess for how long).  Also, the actual cards that the 
X100Ps are based on have stopped being produced by Intel, so you're out 
of luck as far as a replacement goes in 6 months time.

Don't forget that the impedance on the X100P (or clone) is 600Ohms so 
you won't be able to use it without echo outside of the United States.

Really I'd recommend getting a TDM400P card or some older customers.
:-)
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Cheers,
Matt Riddell
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Generic modem question

2005-01-10 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 18:50 -0600, Henry Devito wrote:
> 
> Does asterisk support the intel 537/md3200 chipset?  I don't want to start
> any flames here, I know all about using generic crap in asterisk,[*]  which
> I really don't approve of other than for testing, but I have a customer
> demanding a generic chipset for his one backup analog line.  He will not
> spend the money for a Digium card and says he will find another
> company if I can not provide a generic FXO port.

IMHO, charge them for the 3 hours time it will take you to find,
purchase, and install the generic card, and then just install a digium
X100p card. Add the $20 for the generic card, plus the $10 delivery, and
you are probably in front anyway.

You are happy, the customer is happy, and case is closed.

Just my opinion :)

Regards,
Adam


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