Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Hi, - Original Message - From: Jeremy McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk Just make sure you make sure the BIOS is set not to halt the system on any errors. What about make it work without a graphic card too? If the MB has the graphic on board, usually has just 2 or 3 PCI slots which is not acceptable for an * box. They are many new mainboards which does support only AGP 4x and 8x. Why to pay for a graphic card from the new generation if you don't need it... BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
You can see any thing Sorry I could not resist If you need to admin Linux without a monitor Try webmin Regards Mick Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
well i never had a asterisk server with a monitor or keyword all my servers i do remote login with ssh its better more private. Miguel On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 22:02, Michael Welter wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
You will probably find quite a few people do. I know I do. I have a monitor hooked up to a keyboard switch that is attached to my Asterisk server but I never click over to it. I use SecureCRT and monitor the console that way only. No need really for a monitor unless you want the graphical view which is not really needed anyway. I can do all I need to do with no monitor at all. I use RedHat 9 and just issue a up2date -u when I need to do updates via the RedHat network as well. I can't think of 1 reason you would HAVE to use a monitor. Good luck, Robert - Original Message - From: Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
There are no issues. There is no reason to have a K/B or monitor on the server. Just sucks up power and adds to global warming. You may also want to pull any CDROM or flopy drive from the box too for the same reason. Seriusly, you should be using ssh from a remote machine to access the server. I did install X11 and many X11 clients like but NEVER run X11 on the server just do ssh -X and work on a remote machine. --- Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:02:42PM -0700, Michael Welter wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? The main issue is that you need to think before you type something; lest you do something that requires you to plug a monitor in. Some things can include, rebuilding your kernel, changing network settings, playing with firewall rules, stopping/starting sshd's, etc. A good line of advice would be to get it working with a console attached, and use it remotely and ssh to it. Oh. and your bios settings might need to be changed so it will boot without a keyboard present. TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Welter Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? I would doubt that many real installations have monitors attached. And whether it works or not has nothing to do with the OS or any applications running on the machine. It is strictly a hardware support issue. Most equipment should have no problems without a mouse or keyboard if properly configured. Most hardware can't even detect if a monitor is attached or not. Daryl G. Jurbala BMPC Network Operations Tel: +1 215 825 8401 x235 Fax: +1 508 526 8500 INOC-DBA: 26412*DGJ PGP Key: http://www.introspect.net/pgp ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Michael Welter wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? no issues whatsoever use ssh screen :D TIA ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Michael Welter wrote: Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? Most of my Linux boxes are sans-monitor. I highly recommend it. Just be sure SSH works well and you haven't firewalled your admin workstation from being able to communicate (not that I speak from experience, he he, blush). Some computers have to have a keyboard to boot. Others are a little more sane. YMMV Good luck, and I hope your server can breathe. David Gomillion ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 17:02, Michael Welter wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? TIA Run using a serial console (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/). No monitor, VGA adapter, keyboard etc needed. Use SSH to log into the asterisk box for any maintenance, etc. If the box gets hosed, connect the serial port to a working PC and fire up minicom and your all set. You'll find this type of setup quite often in data center environments. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? My home asterisk box is a headless machine. I generally keep my Linux machines headless. You can use SSH to connect to your server and do anything you would ever do from the console. One catch is you will want to verify that your computer is happy booting without a keyboard present. Most PCs can be set in the BIOS to ignore a missing keyboard, but some machines will halt during boot waiting for you to press F1 to continue. This is an annoying problem especially if you must reboot the system from remote. -- Tony Kava Network Administrator Pottawattamie County, Iowa ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Michael Welter wrote: Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? There is no fancy GUI, unlike that other semi-popular OS, so there is absolutely no need for a monitor and keyboard on a Linux box. Just make sure you make sure the BIOS is set not to halt the system on any errors. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:02:42PM -0700, Michael Welter wrote: Because of space limitations and because of the location of the punch-down blocks, my * server is located on the shelf in a coat closet. Sadly, there is not enough space (or ventilation) for the monitor and keyboard. This will all change when we move to new quarters, but... Does anyone have experience running Linux/Asterisk without a monitor? What, if any, are the issues? Not only can you run Linux without a monitor or keyboard, you can also just plug a keyboard and monitor in if you need to get at the console. When you're done, just unplug them. (You won't do that on an NT server). What I do is install linux with a keyboard and monitor connected. After I've got it on the network, I go back to my office and finishe the configuration. When I install the server at the clients site, I just make sure that my ssh connection can route to the server so I can go back to my office and maintain it. The end user can ssh to the server if they need to (are interested in) observe or manage Asterisk. It's great, two connections to the server: network and power. Walker -- DataCrest, Inc. -- Technically Superior ** Walker Haddock http://www.datacrest.com DataCrest, Inc.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1634A Montgomery Hwy.phone: 1-888-941-3282, 1-205-335-8589 Birmingham, AL 35216 fax: 1-205-823-7838 *** ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
Run using a serial console (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/). No monitor, VGA adapter, keyboard etc needed. Use SSH to log into the asterisk box for any maintenance, etc. If the box gets hosed, connect the serial port to a working PC and fire up minicom and your all set. You'll find this type of setup quite often in data center environments. Except there is a known problem of dropping/missing interrupts with running serial consoles with certain Digium boards. You also have the same problem if you use a framebuffer console. If you truly want it headless with a serial console without that problem, stick a PC Weasel board in it (http://www.realweasel.com). ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
If you truly want it headless with a serial console without that problem, stick a PC Weasel board in it (http://www.realweasel.com). Well I'll one up you here, say get a KVM eithernet switcher http://www.kvm.net/kvmindex.html http://www.cyclades.com/products/ But you gonna have to have the deep pockets, ... dont suppose anyone knows of IP KVM in the 0-$500 :) (for 1-16 devices) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Headless Linux system for Asterisk
TC wrote: If you truly want it headless with a serial console without that problem, stick a PC Weasel board in it (http://www.realweasel.com). Well I'll one up you here, say get a KVM eithernet switcher http://www.kvm.net/kvmindex.html http://www.cyclades.com/products/ But you gonna have to have the deep pockets, ... dont suppose anyone knows of IP KVM in the 0-$500 :) (for 1-16 devices) I've been buying HP DL380s for work - they're excellent servers, and can run everything through the serial port (including the bios). Plus, they've got a lights-out package (standard on the generation 3 machines) that basically does IP KVM (it gives you an additional NIC dedicated to it). It's a bit overkill for home use, but is a great machine. Dual hot-swap power supplies, SMART Raid controller with 6 hot-swap drive bays, hot swap fans (do not put this beast somewhere that you have to listen to it - it's LOUD), in a nice 2U rackmount case. The Gen3s I got in the summer came with dual P4 2.4 Xeons. I'm not affiliated with HP/Compaq - just a satisfied customer. For that matter, I think IBM makes a similar box with a Lights-out option as well. For at home, I do the same as other people have noted - I run most of my linux boxen headless, and just use SSH. -- Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arts and Science Computer Labs University of Saskatchewan It sure is Monday... Ain't it a sin I've gotta work my way thru the week again. - Mark Chesnutt...Sure Is Monday ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
