Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-18 Thread Dorn Hetzel
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:54:19AM +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote:
  I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
  wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
  conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
 
 What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
 asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
 this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)

Or get a couple of these --  http://www.slimdevices.com/  or similar :)
and have REAL music in your office :)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-18 Thread Bill Seddon

On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:54:19AM +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote:
  I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My 
  Boss wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
  conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can


How about a desktop application that plays streamed music from a server but
cuts out when the respective user's phone rings?

Detecting the ringing state of a specific device from, say, a desktop
running Windows or Linux AGI is trivial.  Since playing streamed music on
Linux or Windows is also trivial there should be no problem meeting your
requirements.

Bill Seddon





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 December 2004 20:19, Bill Seddon wrote:

 Detecting the ringing state of a specific device from, say, a desktop
 running Windows or Linux AGI is trivial.

Care to share a trivial example with us?

Sounds like a useful link for several applications...

Antony.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-18 Thread Bill Seddon

Care to share a trivial example with us?

Sure.  Here's a how-to.  If you'd like a working example, let me know.

Open a TCP connection to * either directly of via, say the sampleproxy.pl
example (http://www.popvox.com/simpleproxy.pl).

Login using the manager API by sending the text string on the connection:

Action: login\n\n

After this, that trick is to monitor events from *.  Asterisk will send
events to all manager connections.

Events will arrive as text on the connection in the form:

Event: some event type\nsome event text\n\n

The event text will contain event type specific information in the format:

field: value\n

For example:

Event: Newstate
Channel: SIP\1002-1a23

You can monitor Newstate events to review the state of a call to an
extension (channel).  For example it might be ringing or dialled.

* will send a Event: Link event when a call is answered and an  Event:
Unlink event when the call is terminated.  Eventually * will send Event:
Down indicating that the call channel is on-hook.

You can download an application that illustrates this functionality and is
written in C# from:

http://www.yottadot.org/download.php?op=viewsdownloadsid=10


There examples of playing streamed music in C# such as:

http://www.codeproject.com/cs/media/nbass.asp

Bill Seddon



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-17 Thread Peter Svensson
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wilson Pickett wrote:

  I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
  wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
  conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
 
 What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
 asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
 this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)

The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk 
when a call is in progress. 

It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a 
multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress. 

Peter

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-17 Thread Luke Catranis
Xml services for cisco 7960, setup a broadcast stream. Check the wiki.

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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Wilson Pickett wrote:

  I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk.
My Boss
  wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
  conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it
can do
 
 What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
 asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
 this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)

The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk

when a call is in progress. 

It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a 
multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress. 

Peter

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-17 Thread Steven Kalcevich (Lists)
Why not just dial an extention for music when the user wants music
from there desk.

The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk
when a call is in progress.

It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a
multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 17 December 2004 14:31, Steven Kalcevich (Lists) wrote:

 Why not just dial an extention for music when the user wants music
 from there desk.

Because then the phone will be engaged on a call and will not ring when 
someone else wants to talk to the person at the desk?

Antony.

 The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk
 when a call is in progress.

 It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a

 multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-17 Thread C F
I think that with AGI it should be possible, when a call comes in
disconnect the MOH call then connect the incoming call, when the call
is done just reconnect the MOH.


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:31:24 -0500, Steven Kalcevich (Lists)
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 Why not just dial an extention for music when the user wants music
 from there desk.
 
 The requirement of the original poster was to mute the music at the desk
 when a call is in progress.
 
 It would be really nice if there was a hardphone capable of accepting a
 multicast high-quality stream when no call was in progress.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread james
On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 04:48, Satchid wrote:
 Dear Members,
 
 I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
 wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
 conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
 this also. 
 As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
 mistaken with music on hold. 
 The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
 maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
 The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.

Most hardware phone systems will do this, and its circuitry is related
to station paging and hands free autoanswer intercom. I was wondering
about this feature myself, but more interest in station paging and HFAI.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Joseph
Satchid wrote:
Dear Members,
As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
mistaken with music on hold. 
The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.

You can do this with a multiline phone by setting up  an extension like 
this:

 exten = 201,1,SetMusicOnHold(emp)
 exten = 201,2,Answer()
 exten = 201,3,MusicOnHold()
 exten = 201,4,Hangup
Then be sure you have the emp music class setup in musiconhold.conf:
emp = quietmp3nb:/var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3/emp,-z
This works fine. Users use one line to dial in to this and let it run on 
speaker phone.
When a call comes in, it is on another line and can be picked up.
When they hang up, they resume the music line.

--
respectfully, Joseph

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 04:48 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
Dear Members,
I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
wants background music via all the telephones.
If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this feature?

Regards
Greg Cirino
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Sean Cook
Polycom IP300 are very in-expensive and have multiple lines.  


On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 13:49 +0100, Satchid wrote:
 What

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 07:49 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
Thank you,
My boss believes that people are more happy when soft music playing in the
background. The volume has to be low or even of when the phone rings. If
this is coupled to the *, then the volume can automatically switch of or
switch low. Therefore the volume can be set as high as the user wants
because when the phone rings it switches of. With the existing very
rudimentary PA system the volume has to be low all the time because of not
being coupled.
Thanks for your response, now I have a better understanding.

I like the 2 line telephone system idea, but it will probably be much more
expensive. I was planning the Grandstream 102 phones. What phones would you
propose me to use?
Willy

The Grandstream phones are priced well.  we currently use the bt100's.
Greg


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At 04:48 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
Dear Members,

I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
wants background music via all the telephones.
If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this feature?

Regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Nick Bachmann
Satchid wrote:
Dear Members,
I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do
this also. 
As I said he needs background music on every telephone this is not to be
mistaken with music on hold. 
 

How about modifying the chan_agent stuff?  Right now, if an agent logs 
into a queue, he hears music until a call comes into him.  So you have 
the option of making a queue for every phone (which wouldn't be all that 
great) or creating a new application that copies some of the agentlogin 
functionality, perhaps hanging up when a new call comes in?

The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it might be at the
maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it individually to each telephone. 
The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.

But the music isn't sent as an MP3 to the phone, it's sent using 
whatever codec you're using.

Nick
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Jay Milk
Interesting requirement.  Depending on your site, you may consider
alternative solutions.  If you have individual offices, I suppose the
PBX route would be the best way to go; however, if you have a shared
space (cube-farm, call-room, whatever), maybe you can share the music
source?  In that case, I'd look into slimp3s with a slimserver, and an
inexpensive shelf-system as the amplifier.  www.slimdevices.com would
have some more pointers.  If you have dropped ceilings (as must
businesses do), you could even run ceiling speakers and hook them up to
a slimp3 or other music source via an inexpensive car-amplifier.  Oh
yeah, multiple slimp3s can be synchronized.

 -Original Message-
 From: Satchid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music
 
 
 Dear Members,
 
 I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is 
 Astrisk. My Boss wants background music via all the 
 telephones. This is done in a conventional PBX that he wants, 
 but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do this also. 
 As I said he needs background music on every telephone this 
 is not to be mistaken with music on hold. 
 The bit stream is an MP3 file of 8 Kbs. At the server it 
 might be at the maximum 570Kbs if it has to send it 
 individually to each telephone. 
 The network: 10/100 layer-3 switches with QoS on a 1000Mbs backbone.
 
 Please, is there a way to get this done, otherwise I have to 
 say goodbye to Asterisk (unless my boss gives in).
 
 Thank you all
 
 Willy

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Wilson Pickett
 I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
 wants background music via all the telephones. This is done in a
 conventional PBX that he wants, but I can use the Asterisk PBX if it can do

What a waste of resources though, like installing video games on the
asterisk server... Ther must be a powerline intercom that would handle
this (adding a speaker per music distribution point.)
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Satchid

Thank you,

My boss believes that people are more happy when soft music playing in the
background. The volume has to be low or even of when the phone rings. If
this is coupled to the *, then the volume can automatically switch of or
switch low. Therefore the volume can be set as high as the user wants
because when the phone rings it switches of. With the existing very
rudimentary PA system the volume has to be low all the time because of not
being coupled. 



I like the 2 line telephone system idea, but it will probably be much more
expensive. I was planning the Grandstream 102 phones. What phones would you
propose me to use?

Willy



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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music

At 04:48 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
Dear Members,

I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My Boss
wants background music via all the telephones.

If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this feature?



Regards
Greg Cirino
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Shoval Tomer
I have a proposition to you both.

The users want background music, right?

The background music doesn't have to come from the phone.

You can set up a streaming media server (even using winamp on one of the
desktops) and the users can connect to it from a browser.

Want to take it a bit further?
Make the website check your call status on asterisk via the manager
interface and you can lower the volume automatically.

The first part is easy.
The second part needs work, but I assume that it can be done rather
easily.

What do you think?

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On December 16, 2004 07:01 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
  I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk.
My
   Boss wants background music via all the telephones.
 
  If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this
 feature?
 
 Some people like the inane blather in their office.  I personally
dislike
 background music but many people around me enjoy it.  They keep the
volume
 on
 their phones down and it doesn't bother me too much.
 
 But yes, it's popular and yes, it's doable with a multiline phone or a
 phone
 that supports paging.
 
 -A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 16, 2004 07:01 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
 I am searching for a new PBX for the company. My choice is Astrisk. My
  Boss wants background music via all the telephones.

 If you don't mind my asking, what application would require this feature?

Some people like the inane blather in their office.  I personally dislike 
background music but many people around me enjoy it.  They keep the volume on 
their phones down and it doesn't bother me too much.

But yes, it's popular and yes, it's doable with a multiline phone or a phone 
that supports paging.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] My Boss wants background music!!!!

2004-12-16 Thread William Suffill
We are looking at the Polycom IP300 or the Sipura SPA-841 for low end
type client needs at this point. We didn't feel comfortable with the
GS to our type of customers but if it fits your needs that's an option
as well.
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