RE: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PJ Welsh > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION > > > It is a shame that within a couple of hours they can tell you > to remove helpfull documentation, but not (seemingly) help > answer questions regarding there Cisco stuff on this list. I > think Cisco must have their priorities mixed up! > > Just my opinion... which also means I won't support a company > like that... so I won't buy their products... No, Cisco has their priorities just fine. Companies are in business to make money. Not to give things away. When I have a problem with a piece of Cisco equipment, it is answered promptly and accurately, nearly 100% of the time. I have SmartNet on all of the devices for which I expect this service. Cisco documents are property of Cisco. Many of them require a CCO account to access, and there are varying levels of CCO access. Many "newer" technologies are initially available to all with a CCO login until their maturity and complexity reaches a point where Cisco makes a specialty for them, at which time those documents and new ones on the subject are sometimes no longer available to just anyone with a CCO login. Cisco also maintains and updates their documents on an as-needed basis. Storing copes of their documents on your own web site for public use defeats their ability to do all of these things. And if you want to argue that much of this is done just to charge you more money, you are correct. Cisco is an enterprise infrastructure company. Not a home user/home office/small office outfit where you can call up and talk to a 17 year old with a script for "help" when you have a problem. To get real support costs money. Example: Digium. Daryl ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
> It is a shame that within a couple of hours they can tell you to remove > helpfull documentation, but not (seemingly) help answer questions > regarding there Cisco stuff on this list. I think Cisco must have their > priorities mixed up! > > Just my opinion... which also means I won't support a company like that... > so I won't buy their products... I couldn't agree more - ask most people and they say they buy from the big boys (IBM, Cisco, M$, etc) because of the way they know a big company will stand behind their products, support them, make things right with a problem, etc. How many of these people have actually tried to deal with those companies when there is a problem ? The larger the company the worse it is to find someone intelligent enough to understand what you are talking about and not just regurgitate the tech support mantra, and then to actually listen and solve the problem instead of just saying something like well if it is not affecting 1 customers we don't touch it. You want to hear horror stories ? Do a search on trying to licence lzw from unisys for GIF. (and I thought they centered us out till I read what others put up with). > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
It is a shame that within a couple of hours they can tell you to remove helpfull documentation, but not (seemingly) help answer questions regarding there Cisco stuff on this list. I think Cisco must have their priorities mixed up! Just my opinion... which also means I won't support a company like that... so I won't buy their products... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
In C - Original Message - From: "Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION > On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 19:19, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: > > I would like to release prepaid application. > > But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice > > lady voice) > > And I do not know if it is ok to release it. > > What is it written in? > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 19:19, Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: > I would like to release prepaid application. > But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice > lady voice) > And I do not know if it is ok to release it. What is it written in? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
> I would love to send it to couple of peoples so thay can write some docs and > clean th code. > OK ? > Who would like to do it ? > > Bart I can test it for you and also can help you in the code. -Ranga ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
I would love to try it Thanks very much Jason From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Azher Amin Sent: 02 December 2003 07:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION Hi Bart, I would like to test it as well, I have friends working in php and MySql quite exensively, so I might be able to help u in some modifications. Regards Azher Kevin Bockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- "Bartosz Jozwiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >I would love to send it to couple of peoples so thay can write some >docs and clean th code. OK ? Who would like to do it ? I would be happy to test it for you but I'm not sure how much I would be able to help code. What language is it in? As I mentioned before, the best bet to help with the coding/testing would be to post it on bugs.digium.com. Kevin _ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
Hi Bart, I would like to test it as well, I have friends working in php and MySql quite exensively, so I might be able to help u in some modifications. Regards AzherKevin Bockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- "Bartosz Jozwiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>I would love to send it to couple of peoples so thay can write some >docs and clean th code. OK ? Who would like to do it ?I would be happy to test it for you but I'm not sure how much I would be able to help code. What language is it in? As I mentioned before, the best bet to help with the coding/testing would be to post it on bugs.digium.com.Kevin_Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com___Asterisk-Users mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
--- "Bartosz Jozwiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I would love to send it to couple of peoples so thay can write some >docs and clean >th code. OK ? Who would like to do it ? I would be happy to test it for you but I'm not sure how much I would be able to help code. What language is it in? As I mentioned before, the best bet to help with the coding/testing would be to post it on bugs.digium.com. Kevin _ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
Sure I agree so I've already removed the cisco prompts. And will record something eals. Bart Quoting John Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>I would like to release prepaid application. > >>But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice > >>lady voice) > >>And I do not know if it is ok to release it. > >> > >>Bart > > > >I will agree with the comments of others on this topic. > > > >You should _not_ include the prompts from Cisco. That is almost > >certainly a copyright violation. > > > >For a very low price, you can have Allison Smith > >(http://www.theivrvoice.com/) re-record the prompts, as she is the > >person that did almost all the current Asterisk vocalizations > >(except for the tt-monkeys.gsm file: that was me.) > > > >JT > > Warning: Making this type of announcement in a public forum > apparently attracts Cisco's lawyers, who will scan your site. > > I received (less than two hours after posting this) a fax from > Cisco's legal department demanding that I remove the (unbeknownst to > me) "confidential" Cisco .pdf's from my web site, describing *XML > configuration of Cisco devices. I have since complied, because I > respect Cisco's legal ownership of such documentation, but I find the > timing of their notice suspiciously close to my post on this list. > > > JT > > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > -- - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
I would like to release prepaid application. But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady voice) And I do not know if it is ok to release it. Bart I will agree with the comments of others on this topic. You should _not_ include the prompts from Cisco. That is almost certainly a copyright violation. For a very low price, you can have Allison Smith (http://www.theivrvoice.com/) re-record the prompts, as she is the person that did almost all the current Asterisk vocalizations (except for the tt-monkeys.gsm file: that was me.) JT Warning: Making this type of announcement in a public forum apparently attracts Cisco's lawyers, who will scan your site. I received (less than two hours after posting this) a fax from Cisco's legal department demanding that I remove the (unbeknownst to me) "confidential" Cisco .pdf's from my web site, describing *XML configuration of Cisco devices. I have since complied, because I respect Cisco's legal ownership of such documentation, but I find the timing of their notice suspiciously close to my post on this list. JT ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
Speaking of voice prompts, could anyone tell me why the pre-recorded prompts sometimes sound garbled, but the voicemail messages themselves sound fine? Is it the format of the prompts? Stephen > > >I would like to release prepaid application. > >But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady > voice) > >And I do not know if it is ok to release it. > > > >Bart > > I will agree with the comments of others on this topic. > > You should _not_ include the prompts from Cisco. That is almost > certainly a copyright violation. > > For a very low price, you can have Allison Smith > (http://www.theivrvoice.com/) re-record the prompts, as she is the > person that did almost all the current Asterisk vocalizations (except > for the tt-monkeys.gsm file: that was me.) > > JT > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
I would like to release prepaid application. But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady voice) And I do not know if it is ok to release it. Bart I will agree with the comments of others on this topic. You should _not_ include the prompts from Cisco. That is almost certainly a copyright violation. For a very low price, you can have Allison Smith (http://www.theivrvoice.com/) re-record the prompts, as she is the person that did almost all the current Asterisk vocalizations (except for the tt-monkeys.gsm file: that was me.) JT ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
I would love to send it to couple of peoples so thay can write some docs and clean th code. OK ? Who would like to do it ? Bart - Original Message - From: "Scott Stingel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION > Probably a good idea to re-record the prompts, to avoid intellectual > property issues later on. Plus, you'll likely need to add more prompts in > the future, and so you can have the voice match what you've already > recorded. > > > Scott M. Stingel > Emerging Voice Technology Inc. > Palo Alto, California and London, England > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > URL:www.evtmedia.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:19 PM > To: ASTERISK USERS > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION > > > I would like to release prepaid application. > But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady > voice) > And I do not know if it is ok to release it. > > Bart > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
Probably a good idea to re-record the prompts, to avoid intellectual property issues later on. Plus, you'll likely need to add more prompts in the future, and so you can have the voice match what you've already recorded. Scott M. Stingel Emerging Voice Technology Inc. Palo Alto, California and London, England Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bartosz Jozwiak Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:19 PM To: ASTERISK USERS Subject: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION I would like to release prepaid application. But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady voice) And I do not know if it is ok to release it. Bart ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
Bartosz Jozwiak wrote: I would like to release prepaid application. But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice lady voice) And I do not know if it is ok to release it. I don't know about the rights to the Cisco prompts, so be sure to remove them and then release it. User other sound files as props and make sure the scripts are there, so we know what to replace it with. Maybe someone can fund a recording with the Asterisk voice if the application is interesting enough. If you want it to be part of Asterisk after testing by the community, make sure you sign the disclaimer and fax to Digium. You'll find it on bugs.digium.com. You still have the copyright to your application, but give Digium the right to include it in Asterisk if they want to. Thank you for contributing to Asterisk! /O ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] PREPAID APPLECATION
--- "Bartosz Jozwiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I would like to release prepaid application. >But I have a small problem, we are using their Cisco prompts (nice >lady voice) >And I do not know if it is ok to release it. Why don't you release it without the prompts then? It would probably be nice if you posted it to bugs.digium.com in experimental features or something like that. Kevin _ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
