Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Tom wrote: At 07:08 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote: That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. To what? I am also a cursed Rodopi owner. :-( Tom We use Platypus from Boardtown, which was just acquired by Tucows. Although it has it's quirks, having seen Rodopi, Emerald, Prism and ISPEasy in action, I'll take Platypus ANY day! I have a method for hacking VoIP per minute billing into Platypus, but I haven't executed it yet. Basically, we dump all of our CDR records to a database. On a daily basis, we can tally up the the per-minute LD totals for each customer and then insert a Radius Start/Stop record w/ the total billing seconds for that day. Platypus's built in rate tables take care of the rest. We provide 1,000 minutes of long distance with each account, so at the end of the month when Platypus tallies up it's overage charges, if the usage exceeds the limit, it bills the customer accordingly. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
I second this. Our Primary (not the one we bought) system is radiator, with mysql for the backend. I've never found something it couldn't do. -e -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saliel Figueira Filho Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing I know it's OT here ... but anyone looking for a Radius server should consider getting Radiator - http://www.open.com.au/radiator/. It's not free, but at a very decent price you get the full source code (it's written in Perl), but you seldom will need to tweak the code, as it is flexible by design. No, I don't work or represent them, just an old-time happy customer. Back to my lurking now. Saliel ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Greg Boehnlein wrote: We use Platypus from Boardtown, which was just acquired by Tucows. Although it has it's quirks, having seen Rodopi, Emerald, Prism and ISPEasy in action, I'll take Platypus ANY day! I have a method for hacking VoIP per minute billing into Platypus, but I haven't executed it yet. Basically, we dump all of our CDR records to a database. On a daily basis, we can tally up the the per-minute LD totals for each customer and then insert a Radius Start/Stop record w/ the total billing seconds for that day. Platypus's built in rate tables take care of the rest. We provide 1,000 minutes of long distance with each account, so at the end of the month when Platypus tallies up it's overage charges, if the usage exceeds the limit, it bills the customer accordingly. If that customer is still around to pay you. Billing for services such as VoIP should be in real-time, anything less is unacceptable in my book. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. To what? I am also a cursed Rodopi owner. :-( Tom We bought the source code to wirebill and are building our own platform. Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Hi Gary, WireBill looks interesting. You mentioned that you are using the source code to build your own platform, but how does it hold up on its own? Can I ask what it can't do that requires you to build your own? Thanks, - Darren On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 08:14, Gary Carr wrote: That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. To what? I am also a cursed Rodopi owner. :-( Tom We bought the source code to wirebill and are building our own platform. Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Mostly CLEC stuff like CDR imports for specific ILECS LD carriers as well as some ISP stuff like redirecting past due accounts to a payment page as well as any other stuff we may need. We plan to offer it to other service providers as a ASP model and for purchase. Regards, Gary WireBill looks interesting. You mentioned that you are using the source code to build your own platform, but how does it hold up on its own? Can I ask what it can't do that requires you to build your own? Thanks, - Darren On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 08:14, Gary Carr wrote: That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. To what? I am also a cursed Rodopi owner. :-( Tom We bought the source code to wirebill and are building our own platform. Gary ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Jeremy McNamara wrote: Greg Boehnlein wrote: We use Platypus from Boardtown, which was just acquired by Tucows. Although it has it's quirks, having seen Rodopi, Emerald, Prism and ISPEasy in action, I'll take Platypus ANY day! I have a method for hacking VoIP per minute billing into Platypus, but I haven't executed it yet. Basically, we dump all of our CDR records to a database. On a daily basis, we can tally up the the per-minute LD totals for each customer and then insert a Radius Start/Stop record w/ the total billing seconds for that day. Platypus's built in rate tables take care of the rest. We provide 1,000 minutes of long distance with each account, so at the end of the month when Platypus tallies up it's overage charges, if the usage exceeds the limit, it bills the customer accordingly. If that customer is still around to pay you. Billing for services such as VoIP should be in real-time, anything less is unacceptable in my book. Perhaps, but most services that are usage based are billed in arrears. Not everyone has a setup like NuFone, where people deposit money in advance and you can just debit the calls against their account. You are a little unique in that arena. Try getting someone that spends $50,000 a year in Long Distance to put most of it up front. If you can make that happen, god bless you, but most of corporate America has been trained by 100+ years of telephone history to pay their LD at the end of the month. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Well, we currently use Rodopi and are trying to find away to use it for our VOIP billing. However, because it's based on radius I'm unsure if it will be suitable for Asterisk. I was just curious if anyone else has used the 2 together before. - Darren On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 13:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodopi is a radius system. Just build your own using freeradius. Are you using Cisco that you need radius? Cheers Clive On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:44:14 -0700 Darren Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? Thanks, - Darren ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. OMG.. I had to support a rodopi installation myself for 2 years.. Closest I've ever come to suicide. While I have not managed another system but RODOPI, I have to say, there must be better. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Well, can anyone recommend a full featured ISP billing system that would handle VOIP/Asterisk? - Darren On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 11:09, Brian D'Arcy wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. OMG.. I had to support a rodopi installation myself for 2 years.. Closest I've ever come to suicide. While I have not managed another system but RODOPI, I have to say, there must be better. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Darren Bentley wrote: Well, can anyone recommend a full featured ISP billing system that would handle VOIP/Asterisk? There is not one solution. Canned billing solutions never work. Write your own. If you cannot code, hire someone that can. (not me) Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
While we have not integrated the asterisk CDRs yet it should not be a problem to do. We our building a billing system for ISP/CLECs that will do what you want. If you want more information you can contact via email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by calling 910.402.5010 Regards, Gary Carr President/CEO 705A Wesley Pines Rd. GSC Telecommunications, Inc. Lumberton, NC 28358 Phone: 910-402-5011 Fax: 910-618-9027 Check us out at: www.gsctele.com Well, can anyone recommend a full featured ISP billing system that would handle VOIP/Asterisk? - Darren On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 11:09, Brian D'Arcy wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. OMG.. I had to support a rodopi installation myself for 2 years.. Closest I've ever come to suicide. While I have not managed another system but RODOPI, I have to say, there must be better. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. We just bought an ISP that uses rodopi exclusively for Accounting and Billing. ...sigh... -e -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. Gary - Original Message - From: Ejay Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. We just bought an ISP that uses rodopi exclusively for Accounting and Billing. ...sigh... -e -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
I know it's OT here ... but anyone looking for a Radius server should consider getting Radiator - http://www.open.com.au/radiator/. It's not free, but at a very decent price you get the full source code (it's written in Perl), but you seldom will need to tweak the code, as it is flexible by design. No, I don't work or represent them, just an old-time happy customer. Back to my lurking now. Saliel ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
At 07:08 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote: That sigh will turn to cursing after a couple of months. We currently use Rodopi, have for 10 years but the inflexability is too much to deal with anymore so we are moving away from it. To what? I am also a cursed Rodopi owner. :-( Tom Gary - Original Message - From: Ejay Hire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. We just bought an ISP that uses rodopi exclusively for Accounting and Billing. ...sigh... -e -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, Darren Bentley wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? I suffered with Rodopi for three years in a previous life. Avoid it like the plague. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Rodopi Billing
Rodopi is a radius system. Just build your own using freeradius. Are you using Cisco that you need radius? Cheers Clive On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:44:14 -0700 Darren Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Asterisk in conjunction with a billing system like Rodopi? Is the Rodopi VOIP module worth getting, or can radius be used? Thanks, - Darren ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
