RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > Greg Wrote > > /SNIP/ > Everyone wins from this, and Sveasoft has a revenue stream that allows > them to keep focused development on improving the firmware. I have over > 60 of the WRT54GS units in production and I run Sveasoft firmware on > every single one of them. It is so far ahead of Linksys's internal > builds and adds so many additional features that there is no comparison > between the two. > > "Hackware" indeed. What an insult to all of the quality developers that > are putting their time and effort into extending the platform and making > it one of the most incredible sub $100 routing platforms on the planet. > /SNIP/ > > That is not the issue here. The point is whether Sveasoft can charge > $20.00 to release the source code that is acquired originally under GNU. But they don't charge for the firmware. You can get the latest stable firmware, build software, cross compilers and everything from here: http://www.sveasoft.com/modules/phpBB2/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=10 If you want to participate in the Beta Program, and have access to the NON-Stable, NOT RELEASED code, then you can subscribe. It is entirely up to you. If you want to bitch about their policy, then take it up with them. > By the way have if you have paid $20.00 for each of your routers, you > are paying 1/3rd of the cost of the router itself for this "upgrade". So what? It adds several features that are not available on other routers even at twice the price. For example, it is trivial to use the Satori Firmware to enable a PPTP VPN between two routers to enable SIP devices to safely and freely communicate w/out NAT, translation or STUN issues. That is just one nifty thing.. there are hundreds of other benefits that are too numerous to list. > /Snip/ > one of the most incredible sub $100 routing platforms on the planet. > /snip/ > > Really? I have installed satori on my WRT 54G and it disconnects my > Vonage and Packet8 phones after 30 seconds of activity. Sounds like SIP through NAT issues to me. Easy enough to fix w/ some basic configuration changes. Have you posted any requests to the Sveasoft support forums asking for advice? This isn't the router's fault.. > It also shuts down my Asterisk Server on Fedora Core2 if I put it on the > same network. Huh? Sounds like user misconfiguration and incorrect network settings. > I have not found out the causes yet but I don't think Sveasoft is there > yet. Are you seriously going to blame a router for this? That is just plain ignorant. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, Steve Kennedy wrote: > > Well, then roll your own and stop whining about it. Quite frankly calling > > it "hackware" shows that you have no concept of how much work has gone > > into the Sveasoft firmware, nor do you grasp the concept that Linksys is > > incorporating many of the Sveasoft changes BACK into their firmware. > > Everyone wins from this, and Sveasoft has a revenue stream that allows > > them to keep focused development on improving the firmware. I have over 60 > > of the WRT54GS units in production and I run Sveasoft firmware on every > > single one of them. It is so far ahead of Linksys's internal builds and > > adds so many additional features that there is no comparison between the > > two. > > The only criticism I'd have of Sveasoft is lack of documentation, but in > general the software is pretty good (if you can work out how to drive it > properly :). As with any Open Source project (Asterisk included) Documentation is always the weak link. However, I will say that the documentation that DOES exist for Sveasoft has surpassed my expectations, especially for the public Satori loads. It has it's rough edges, but in general it is quite adequate for my needs. > I'm sure there'll be an Asterisk port, especially as Sveasoft are making > loadable modules, so the core can be small, but functionality can be > added if required. Yep.. it is only a matter of time. However, the lack of threading and other restrictions of the platform may make Asterisk on a WRT54GS a pretty stripped down and basic system. On the other hand, if you ARE a Sveasoft subscriber, you should definitely check out some of Lonewolf's builds. He has recently added the ability to do Wireless Bridging to the firmware. I use this at home to replace a 6 Meg / second PowerLine Networking setup w/ 54 meg 802.11g links between rooms in the house. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: By the way have if you have paid $20.00 for each of your routers, you are paying 1/3rd of the cost of the router itself for this "upgrade". The $20.00 is the cost of 1 year subscription with unlimited support, and unlimited access to lastest firmware, not for each router. Jorge Mendoza ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
Greg Wrote /SNIP/ Everyone wins from this, and Sveasoft has a revenue stream that allows them to keep focused development on improving the firmware. I have over 60 of the WRT54GS units in production and I run Sveasoft firmware on every single one of them. It is so far ahead of Linksys's internal builds and adds so many additional features that there is no comparison between the two. "Hackware" indeed. What an insult to all of the quality developers that are putting their time and effort into extending the platform and making it one of the most incredible sub $100 routing platforms on the planet. /SNIP/ That is not the issue here. The point is whether Sveasoft can charge $20.00 to release the source code that is acquired originally under GNU. By the way have if you have paid $20.00 for each of your routers, you are paying 1/3rd of the cost of the router itself for this "upgrade". /Snip/ one of the most incredible sub $100 routing platforms on the planet. /snip/ Really? I have installed satori on my WRT 54G and it disconnects my Vonage and Packet8 phones after 30 seconds of activity. It also shuts down my Asterisk Server on Fedora Core2 if I put it on the same network. I have not found out the causes yet but I don't think Sveasoft is there yet. NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:30:17PM -0500, Greg Boehnlein wrote: > > > Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? > > > Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping > > > and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a > > > Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. > > Alchemy has ssh access, you need to pay $20 subscription to Sveasoft to > > access the pre-release firmware. > > $20.00 for GNUed "hackware" that is originally freely donated by > > LinkSys? No way. > Well, then roll your own and stop whining about it. Quite frankly calling > it "hackware" shows that you have no concept of how much work has gone > into the Sveasoft firmware, nor do you grasp the concept that Linksys is > incorporating many of the Sveasoft changes BACK into their firmware. > Everyone wins from this, and Sveasoft has a revenue stream that allows > them to keep focused development on improving the firmware. I have over 60 > of the WRT54GS units in production and I run Sveasoft firmware on every > single one of them. It is so far ahead of Linksys's internal builds and > adds so many additional features that there is no comparison between the > two. The only criticism I'd have of Sveasoft is lack of documentation, but in general the software is pretty good (if you can work out how to drive it properly :). I'm sure there'll be an Asterisk port, especially as Sveasoft are making loadable modules, so the core can be small, but functionality can be added if required. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > > > Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? > > Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping > > > and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a > > Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. > > Alchemy has ssh access, you need to pay $20 subscription to Sveasoft to > access the pre-release firmware. > > Steve > > - > > $20.00 for GNUed "hackware" that is originally freely donated by > LinkSys? No way. Well, then roll your own and stop whining about it. Quite frankly calling it "hackware" shows that you have no concept of how much work has gone into the Sveasoft firmware, nor do you grasp the concept that Linksys is incorporating many of the Sveasoft changes BACK into their firmware. Everyone wins from this, and Sveasoft has a revenue stream that allows them to keep focused development on improving the firmware. I have over 60 of the WRT54GS units in production and I run Sveasoft firmware on every single one of them. It is so far ahead of Linksys's internal builds and adds so many additional features that there is no comparison between the two. "Hackware" indeed. What an insult to all of the quality developers that are putting their time and effort into extending the platform and making it one of the most incredible sub $100 routing platforms on the planet. > How much did I pay for Asterisk? Was it $20 grand? > Don't remember having paid that much for Asterisk. $20 US DOLLARS! Not, $20,000! > If not SSH what other way can we access Linksys Linux without Alchemy > wrapper sftp/rlogin/telnet? Does anyone know? Plenty of people know. If you can't do a google search for it, this isn't the place to be asking about it. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
OT RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
root/admin On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > > >>Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? > >>Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping > > >>and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a > >>Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. > > I have loaded Satori successfully on Linksys WRT 54G Router. However I > am not able to login into this box using SSH and the 'admin' default > password that comes with the router. > > WRT 54G does not need a Login. It has a password only to be entered on > the web GUI screen. I presume the default is 'admin' as login. > > Does Satori setup a separate admin login/pass to get into the Box? Any > tips are appreciated. > > Seshu Kanuri > > > NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does > not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
>>Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? >>Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping >>and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a >>Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. I have loaded Satori successfully on Linksys WRT 54G Router. However I am not able to login into this box using SSH and the 'admin' default password that comes with the router. WRT 54G does not need a Login. It has a password only to be entered on the web GUI screen. I presume the default is 'admin' as login. Does Satori setup a separate admin login/pass to get into the Box? Any tips are appreciated. Seshu Kanuri NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
Steve Kennedy wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 02:53:50PM -0500, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. Alchemy has ssh access, you need to pay $20 subscription to Sveasoft to access the pre-release firmware. Steve I've used satori with SSH (I do have a subscription, so I've a mix of satori and alchemy right now, 2 x wrt54gs). SSH Works just fine in both. There is one feature that I miss, is the option to do the QoS based in DSCP markings, most VOIP devices do a clean job of doing the marking already, so for outbound QoS is easier than going around with filters/port ranges and etc..I guess I'll submit a feature request :-) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
> Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? > Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping yah it has ssh, but if all you want is more of a linux box then suggest you look at the openwrt.org, they have a writeable file system on the flash & not this nvram setting stuff for chgs They have also started posting snapshots so you dont have to install the toolchain any more http://openwrt.org/downloads/snapshots ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
> Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? > Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping > and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a > Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. Alchemy has ssh access, you need to pay $20 subscription to Sveasoft to access the pre-release firmware. Steve - $20.00 for GNUed "hackware" that is originally freely donated by LinkSys? No way. How much did I pay for Asterisk? Was it $20 grand? Don't remember having paid that much for Asterisk. If not SSH what other way can we access Linksys Linux without Alchemy wrapper sftp/rlogin/telnet? Does anyone know? Seshu NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 02:53:50PM -0500, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? Does > Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping and > QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a Linux > box that is accessible from an ssh client. Alchemy has ssh access, you need to pay $20 subscription to Sveasoft to access the pre-release firmware. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
Thanks for the link. Tell me which one can get me access to the LinkSys Linux using SSH? Does Satori has this feature? I am not so concerned with Voice Shaping and QOS at this time, but more interested in converting this into a Linux box that is accessible from an ssh client. Seshu -Original Message- Satori is the only non-subscriber version for public consumption, Alchemy is subscription only http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&; cid= 8 NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:04:10PM -0500, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > -Original Message--- > I just bought two new Linksys WRT54G routers. Sveasoft has loaded Linux > on this router and included a bunch of Linux tools, one of which is > Bandwidth Management. > > Do you have the link for the free version of Sveasoft Linux wrapper that > we could download? > Is this still free under GNU or is there a charge for it now? Sveasoft release all versions for "free", however they restrict "beta" versions to subscribers. Alchemy isn't yet released. And the whole point is that Linksys code is all Linux based, they initially resisted giving away the source, but capitulated in the end, and also gave all the toolchains etc to build a working binary. Sveasoft base their code on the Linksys code. There's efforts like openrwrt which build vanilla non Linksys code. Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-epage (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
>Do you have the link for the free version of Sveasoft Linux wrapper that >we could download? >Is this still free under GNU or is there a charge for it now? Satori is the only non-subscriber version for public consumption, Alchemy is subscription only http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid= 8 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Sveasoft Alchemy QOS
-Original Message--- I just bought two new Linksys WRT54G routers. Sveasoft has loaded Linux on this router and included a bunch of Linux tools, one of which is Bandwidth Management. Do you have the link for the free version of Sveasoft Linux wrapper that we could download? Is this still free under GNU or is there a charge for it now? Seshu Kanuri NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
