RE: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-10 Thread John Chester
At 12:58 PM 4/5/2004 -0500, Steven Sokol wrote:
 I regret that I've only used MeetMe a few times, and only up to two users.

 Perhaps others that are using MeetMe could comment on the number of
 concurrent conferences and total users they have asterisk running with.
 The
 specs of the systems involved would be most helpful.

I have set up a conference with four people on a very low-end box.  The
voice quality was very good.  All four were connected using VoIP.  Three
were using IAX2 clients, and one was using a SIP hardphone.  I suspect the
system could have easily scaled much further -- the CPU and memory usage
were fairly low.
I've pushed a low-end system far enough to encounter problems.  I set up 
what I thought was a prototype system on a box salvaged from the junkheap, 
and it immediately became so popular it got overloaded.

* 1, New Jersey:
P-II 350, 192 MB RAM, RedHat 8.0, * 1.0 stable
* 2, Jamaica:
P-III 800, 256 MB RAM, RedHat 8.0, * 1.0 stable
7 party conference on * 1 in New Jersey.  3 extensions on * 2 via IAX trunk 
to * 1 (no jitter buffer).  Four calls on * 1: 1 IAX to VoicePulse, 1 local 
SIP, 2 remote SIP on Xten softphones in Vermont and UK.  All calls are GSM 
(including IAX trunk) except for 1 local SIP user who is ulaw.

7 users sounds OK *if* the network connection to Jamaica is in really good 
shape -- but audio quality on the Jamaica trunk goes downhill really fast 
as network quality deteriorates.  It's *much* more sensitive to network 
quality than a regular call across the same trunk -- and it becomes more 
sensitive to network quality as the number of users in the conference 
increases.  On one occasion, a 7-party conference ended because audio 
quality from Jamaica was unusable.  I then immediately called one of the 
extensions in Jamaica, and audio quality was OK.  CPU usage during the 
7-party conference was usually 10 to 15%, with occasional peaks at 50%.

On a good day, the network path from NJ to Jamaica is about 170 msec with 
15 msec jitter (sounds perfect); on a bad day, it's 10% packet loss and 500 
msec jitter.  Needless to say, the latter condition is always unusable.  A 
one-to-one call is still usable with packet loss of 3 to 4% and 60 to 70 
msec jitter (although it certainly has audible dropouts), but a 7-party 
conference sounds really dreadful.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-08 Thread Steve Kann




Christopher Arnold wrote:

  
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Steve Kann wrote:

  
  
If people are looking for a higher-capacity conferencing application,
take a look at app_conference, in the iaxclient (on sourceforge) CVS.
I haven't really benchmarked meetme, but I _think_ that app_conference
might be able to beat it.  Certainly in it's designed application it
will (iax clients which use VAD on the client side).


  
  Which version of asterisk is it meant to compile against?

It seems lite the calls to ast_set_read_format and ast_set_write_format
are missing the needlock parameter.
  

It was up to date with asterisk, but I haven't update the CVS on
sourceforge in a bit (nobody had even been looking at it).

I've updated it now, and it should compile against the current 1.0
branch.

Hmm, looking at the code now, we still don't have an extra parameter
there. maybe that was post-1.0?


-SteveK





Re: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-07 Thread Steve Kann




Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:

  quote who="Andrew Thompson"
  
  
I regret that I've only used MeetMe a few times, and only up to two users.

  
  
Well, the problem with giving general stats, is that it REALLY depends on the
exact environment.

Key points: (on a server dedicated for conferences only)
  o number of channels
  o types of channels
  o codecs used (and ratio)
  o number of conferences
  o number of channels in the conferences

Then givin the interupt load, cpu load, i/o load, memory load and bandwidth for
each of these variables, you can find what hardware will run the load you want.

  


If people are looking for a higher-capacity conferencing application,
take a look at app_conference, in the iaxclient (on sourceforge) CVS.
I haven't really benchmarked meetme, but I _think_ that app_conference
might be able to beat it. Certainly in it's designed application it
will (iax clients which use VAD on the client side).






Re: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-07 Thread Christopher Arnold


On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Steve Kann wrote:

 If people are looking for a higher-capacity conferencing application,
 take a look at app_conference, in the iaxclient (on sourceforge) CVS.
 I haven't really benchmarked meetme, but I _think_ that app_conference
 might be able to beat it.  Certainly in it's designed application it
 will (iax clients which use VAD on the client side).

Which version of asterisk is it meant to compile against?

It seems lite the calls to ast_set_read_format and ast_set_write_format
are missing the needlock parameter.

/Chris
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-06 Thread two

 Hi !! all !!

 As for system specs, I believe that Jeremy's system is based on a
 dual-processor (P-IV 2.4 GHz) Dell 1750 server with several GB of RAM.  My
 low end box was a 1.7 GHz Celeron with 256 MB

 It becomes helpful. Thank you very much!!.


 Key points: (on a server dedicated for conferences only)
  o number of channels
  o types of channels
  o codecs used (and ratio)
  o number of conferences
  o number of channels in the conferences

 I used SIP and bandwidth is set as 100M.
It and a codec use G.729. A conference room is 1 room.
How many persons can participate in the quality of a meeting?
(CPU PenIII 866 [MHz] and RAM 256 [MB])

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew Thompson
two wrote:
  Hi !!
 I know that a conference room can be made infinitely.
 but, I think that there is actually a limit.
 
 
  For example, how many conference rooms can be made from CPU 866
 [MHz] and RAM 256 [MB]? Is there any person who tried someone? I am
 studying MeetMe now. Please tell me a hint!!  
 

The answer is 1. That's right, only one conference.

The answer is also probably some number greater than 30.

Which answer applies to your situation, would depend on how many people are
in each conference, what technologies they are using to connect, what kind
of hardware is in your asterisk server, and how much bandwidth you have
available.

Now, go and figure out what you need asterisk to do, then test a
configuration you have and figure out what your configuration needs to be.

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http://aktzero.com/ 


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew Thompson
I regret that I've only used MeetMe a few times, and only up to two users.

Perhaps others that are using MeetMe could comment on the number of
concurrent conferences and total users they have asterisk running with. The
specs of the systems involved would be most helpful.


If this is on the wiki, I apologize. If so, please post a url for the
original poster.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-05 Thread Steven Sokol
 I regret that I've only used MeetMe a few times, and only up to two users.
 
 Perhaps others that are using MeetMe could comment on the number of
 concurrent conferences and total users they have asterisk running with.
 The
 specs of the systems involved would be most helpful.
 

I have set up a conference with four people on a very low-end box.  The
voice quality was very good.  All four were connected using VoIP.  Three
were using IAX2 clients, and one was using a SIP hardphone.  I suspect the
system could have easily scaled much further -- the CPU and memory usage
were fairly low.

Jeremy McNamera told me that he has run conferences with 184 users (two of
the Quad-PRI cards) with out any problems.  I also ran into a number of
users at the VON show who are using Asterisk as a conference server
(including the Pingtel team!).  

As for system specs, I believe that Jeremy's system is based on a
dual-processor (P-IV 2.4 GHz) Dell 1750 server with several GB of RAM.  My
low end box was a 1.7 GHz Celeron with 256 MB.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] The maximum capacity of MeetMe

2004-04-05 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning

quote who=Andrew Thompson
 I regret that I've only used MeetMe a few times, and only up to two users.

Well, the problem with giving general stats, is that it REALLY depends on the
exact environment.

Key points: (on a server dedicated for conferences only)
  o number of channels
  o types of channels
  o codecs used (and ratio)
  o number of conferences
  o number of channels in the conferences

Then givin the interupt load, cpu load, i/o load, memory load and bandwidth for
each of these variables, you can find what hardware will run the load you want.

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