Re: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration
One quote from the Melb Asterisk users group - Trixbox is great if you like learning things twice. (once the gui way, then once the right way.) PaulH -- Paul Hales Technical Manager AsteriskIT www.asteriskit.com.au bus: 03 8320 8100 mob: 0434 673 529 shadowym wrote: Just my opinion and I am no expert. I took the time to crawl first. I installed basic Linux then I installed basic Asterisk. After spending some time crawling with this setup I set up some extensions and made some calls and watched the messages on the CLI while Asterisk did it's thing. After spending some time walking I installed FreePBX and then Trixbox. Now I feel fairly comfortable running FreePBX and making manual changes via the x_custom.conf abilities in FreePBX. It is trying to be all things to all people so bloat is inevitable. So far I have not found any limits that cannot be overcome by manual changes to x_custom.conf files in FreePBX. I suspect if someone just jumps in with both feet and runs Trixbox without learning the basics first they are asking for trouble when they want to get serious about it and run into the inevitable snags. Lot's of people are probably doing it this way and working backwards which is quite possible but is probably a much more difficult way to go about it. My 2 cents. *From:* Mimmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:05 AM *To:* 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' *Subject:* RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I can confirm this. AMP/TrixBox is a wonderful project but if you like to tweak something or you became a more experienced user, it will became soon as a straitjacket. I'm still struggling to clean AMP config files to work with a plain Asterisk install. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Novak *Sent:* Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:24 PM *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Subject:* [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I love the added apps installed with trixbox, ARI, Web-Meetme, FOP, and Reports are great. FreePBX on the other hand, is nearly impossible to do everything with. Trying to edit the configs manually proves impossible due to the excessive use of includes and macros. It is kind of like watching someone try to bite their own ear off. Has anybody tried to wipe all the configs clean and program the switch manually. Will this interfere with the other apps. I would wipe out extensions.conf, voicemail.conf, IAX.conf SIP.conf queues.conf and agents.conf. I do not want to use the FreePBX again after this. I am not trying to put down FreePBX, I know a lot of people have worked very hard on this. It just over complicates things for me. Jordan Novak Communications Technician ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration
Just my opinion and I am no expert. I took the time to crawl first. I installed basic Linux then I installed basic Asterisk. After spending some time crawling with this setup I set up some extensions and made some calls and watched the messages on the CLI while Asterisk did it's thing. After spending some time walking I installed FreePBX and then Trixbox. Now I feel fairly comfortable running FreePBX and making manual changes via the x_custom.conf abilities in FreePBX. It is trying to be all things to all people so bloat is inevitable. So far I have not found any limits that cannot be overcome by manual changes to x_custom.conf files in FreePBX. I suspect if someone just jumps in with both feet and runs Trixbox without learning the basics first they are asking for trouble when they want to get serious about it and run into the inevitable snags. Lot's of people are probably doing it this way and working backwards which is quite possible but is probably a much more difficult way to go about it. My 2 cents. From: Mimmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:05 AMTo: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I can confirm this. AMP/TrixBox is a wonderful project but if you like to tweak something or you became a more experienced user, it will became soon as a straitjacket. I'm still struggling to clean AMP config files to work with a plain Asterisk install. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan NovakSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:24 PMTo: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I love the added apps installed with trixbox, ARI, Web-Meetme, FOP, and Reports are great. FreePBX on the other hand, is nearly impossible to do everything with. Trying to edit the configs manually proves impossible due to the excessive use of includes and macros. It is kind of like watching someone try to bite their own ear off. Has anybody tried to wipe all the configs clean and program the switch manually. Will this interfere with the other apps. I would wipe out extensions.conf, voicemail.conf, IAX.conf SIP.conf queues.conf and agents.conf. I do not want to use the FreePBX again after this. I am not trying to put down FreePBX, I know a lot of people have worked very hard on this. It just over complicates things for me. Jordan Novak Communications Technician ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration
As pointed out, just build your own system. If you understand the Freepbx dialplan, you can usually do almost anything you want in _custom files including redefining contexts in such a way that upgrades do not wipe them out. It's simply a matter of spending some time to see what is being done and then extending it. On the other hand - there are some more difficult scenarios to get around and plenty of other good reasons to just role your own. You can have one, the other or the best of both if that has value to you and you are willing to understand the dialplan, config and how to integrate into and work with it. (I use all three, depending on the scenario)pFrom: "Mimmus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'" Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:04:53 +0200Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I can confirm this. AMP/TrixBox is a wonderful project but if you like to tweak something or you became a more experienced user, it will became soon as a straitjacket. I'm still struggling to clean AMP config files to work with a plain Asterisk install. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JordanNovakSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:24 PMTo:asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] Trixboxmaunual configuration I love the added apps installedwith trixbox, ARI, Web-Meetme, FOP, and Reports are great. FreePBX on theother hand, is nearly impossible to do everything with. Trying to edit theconfigs manually proves impossible due to the excessive use of includes andmacros. It is kind of like watching someone try to bite their own ear off. Hasanybody tried to wipe all the configs clean and program the switch manually.Will this interfere with the other apps. I would wipe out extensions.conf,voicemail.conf, IAX.conf SIP.conf queues.conf and agents.conf. I do not wantto use the FreePBX again after this. I am not trying to put down FreePBX, Iknow a lot of people have worked very hard on this. It just over complicatesthings for me. JordanNovak CommunicationsTechnician ___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration
I can confirm this. AMP/TrixBox is a wonderful project but if you like to tweak something or you became a more experienced user, it will became soon as a straitjacket. I'm still struggling to clean AMP config files to work with a plain Asterisk install. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan NovakSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:24 PMTo: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration I love the added apps installed with trixbox, ARI, Web-Meetme, FOP, and Reports are great. FreePBX on the other hand, is nearly impossible to do everything with. Trying to edit the configs manually proves impossible due to the excessive use of includes and macros. It is kind of like watching someone try to bite their own ear off. Has anybody tried to wipe all the configs clean and program the switch manually. Will this interfere with the other apps. I would wipe out extensions.conf, voicemail.conf, IAX.conf SIP.conf queues.conf and agents.conf. I do not want to use the FreePBX again after this. I am not trying to put down FreePBX, I know a lot of people have worked very hard on this. It just over complicates things for me. Jordan Novak Communications Technician ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Trixbox maunual configuration
On 07:23, Wed 28 Jun 06, Jordan Novak wrote: > I love the added apps installed with trixbox, ARI, Web-Meetme, FOP, and > Reports are great. FreePBX on the other hand, is nearly impossible to do > everything with. Trying to edit the configs manually proves impossible > due to the excessive use of includes and macros. It is kind of like > watching someone try to bite their own ear off. Has anybody tried to > wipe all the configs clean and program the switch manually. Will this > interfere with the other apps. I would wipe out extensions.conf, > voicemail.conf, IAX.conf SIP.conf queues.conf and agents.conf. I do not > want to use the FreePBX again after this. I am not trying to put down > FreePBX, I know a lot of people have worked very hard on this. It just > over complicates things for me. Hi, They are all seperate opensource packages. None of them depend on eachother. We use FOP, ARI and Reports (areski stats) here too without FreePBX. Simply download them and look at their README/INSTALL files. -- Michiel van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x71C946BD "Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users?" ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
