RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-10 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Title: Message



Yes, in most places in the USA local 
calls are totally free, no per mincharge.
This is not true 
in the US for business lines. Residentiallines have a "free" local 
calling area. However, business lines from an incumbent local exchange 
carrier like SBC nearlyalways charge rates for 7-digit local calls, 
usually, but not alwaysbased on mileage zones. Rates vary based on 
the local carrier, time of dayand the distance. Different rate 
schemes apply in different parts of the country. Some use ZoneUsage 
Measured(ZUM) schemes, others use Flat Rate or Measured Rate schemes. 
There are different rate plans for the same carriers for local toll 
callsthat fall outside the local calling area but are within the same 
LATA.

Some states do 
allow 10-digit dialing without a 1+. Washington DC (202) is an example of 
this for making local calls to other adjacent area codes. The entire North 
America Numbering Plan (NANP) is in a constant state of change as new area codes 
are added. There are 4 different dialing plans for each area code that can 
vary with regard to the number of digits required and whether a 1+ is 
required:

  
  - Home NPA Local Calls
  - Foreign NPA Local Calls
  - Home NPA Toll Calls
  - Foreign NPA Toll Calls
  
  If you go to www.nanpa.com and click on the "Dialing Plans" 
  option in the left column, you can get the current ("Standard") and evolving 
  ("Permissive") dialing plan for any area code. For example, 310 is 
  currently setup this way:
  
  
  Dialing 
  PlanStandard 
  Permissive
  - Home NPA Local 
  Calls 
  7D 
   1+10D
  - Foreign NPA Local 
  Calls 
  1+10D 
  NA
  - Home NPA Toll 
  Calls 
  7DNA
  - Foreign NPA Toll 
  Calls 
  1+10D
  
  This says you currently dial local calls within 310 as 7 
  digits, but the plan will change to require 1+10 digits which is currently 
  permitted.
  
  Hope this helps 
  David Schlossman
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  hmmm... Damn Outlook.. It wont do the quoata again.. Sorry about 
  this.!!!
  
  Anyway,
  
  Dabid, do you know whenalllocal calls will have to be 
  dialed with "1" appended?
  
  Ta
  SJ
  
  


Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-10 Thread Eric Wieling
In some places, yes, but not all places.  In Louisiana, for example 
business can get unlimited local calling (and most do).  When I lived in 
Calif unlimited local calling was not available to businesses.

Scott Stingel wrote:

Just a little clarification on USA local calling:

Local calls are generally free for residential customers, unless they are on
a increasingly rare measured local service.  However, business customers
almost always pay for local calls on a measured basis.
Regards
Scott
Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
Palo Alto, California and London, England

Email:  scott at evtmedia.com  
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan
Generally speaking, Yes. The usual dial plan in the USA is as follows:

NXX- (Free Local Call to number in same Area Code)
NXX-NXX- (Free Local Call to number in different Area Code)
1-NXX- (Toll Call to number in same Area Code)
1-NXX-NXX- (Toll Call to number in different Area Code)
1-800-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-855-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-866-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-877-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-888-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
Yes, in most places in the USA local calls are totally free, no per min
charge.
Some parts of the USA have Local Toll Calls, that is calls that are
dialed as NXX- that are not free, but have a very small per min
cost.  Los Angels is one of these places I think.
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:

Hi,

Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?


I have not been to USA (yet) :)
Ta
SJ
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?

1 usually signifies a long distance call. It also is prepended to all
calls using the full 10 digit areacode + exchange and number. 

So it is possible in the USA to dial a 7 digit number without a 1
prepended for local calls in some areas. It is possible for some 7 digit
numbers to be long distance(toll) and require a 1 to be prepended to the
7 digits as a acceptance of the extra charge. All 10 digit dialing is
done with a 1 prepended.
-- 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Eric Wieling
Generally speaking, Yes. The usual dial plan in the USA is as follows:

NXX- (Free Local Call to number in same Area Code)
NXX-NXX- (Free Local Call to number in different Area Code)
1-NXX- (Toll Call to number in same Area Code)
1-NXX-NXX- (Toll Call to number in different Area Code)
1-800-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-855-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-866-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-877-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-888-NXX- (Toll Free Call)

Yes, in most places in the USA local calls are totally free, no per min
charge.

Some parts of the USA have Local Toll Calls, that is calls that are
dialed as NXX- that are not free, but have a very small per min
cost.  Los Angels is one of these places I think.

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?
 
 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
 Ta
 SJ
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread ml
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?
 
 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
 Ta
 SJ

In all cases of long distance, 1 plus the area code is used.  In small areas where 
local only is involved you usually only dial 7 digits.  In metro areas with multiple 
area codes, you use 10 digit dialing.  Some places you use 10 digit dialing or 1 + 
area code, depends on the phone company.I've seen this happen on the east coast.

Kevin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Chris Albertson

--- Senad Jordanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?

Not always.  My local phone company (Verizon in So. California)
said we'd have
to dail 1-310-xxx- for local numbers (I'm in 310 area) but
as of current time I can still dail just 7 digits and it works
fine.

I think over time, yes, we are headed to the requirement to
alwauys dial 1-10 digit number 
 
 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
 Ta
 SJ
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Michael Graves
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:40:45 -0600, Steven Critchfield wrote:

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?

1 usually signifies a long distance call. It also is prepended to all
calls using the full 10 digit areacode + exchange and number. 

So it is possible in the USA to dial a 7 digit number without a 1
prepended for local calls in some areas. It is possible for some 7 digit
numbers to be long distance(toll) and require a 1 to be prepended to the
7 digits as a acceptance of the extra charge. All 10 digit dialing is
done with a 1 prepended.
-- 
Steven Critchfield  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Actually, this is not quite correct. In larger urban areas people must
dial the 10 digit number without the 1. This is because they may have
several area codes within their local called area. Here in Houston we
have 713, 281 and 832. In Toronto they have 416, 905 and a new third
that I don't know.

The 1 is only dialed to a known long distance number.

Michael


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Scott Stingel
Just a little clarification on USA local calling:

Local calls are generally free for residential customers, unless they are on
a increasingly rare measured local service.  However, business customers
almost always pay for local calls on a measured basis.

Regards
Scott

Scott M. Stingel 
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
Palo Alto, California and London, England

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URL:www.evtmedia.com  



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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan


Generally speaking, Yes. The usual dial plan in the USA is as follows:

NXX- (Free Local Call to number in same Area Code)
NXX-NXX- (Free Local Call to number in different Area Code)
1-NXX- (Toll Call to number in same Area Code)
1-NXX-NXX- (Toll Call to number in different Area Code)
1-800-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-855-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-866-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-877-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
1-888-NXX- (Toll Free Call)

Yes, in most places in the USA local calls are totally free, no per min
charge.

Some parts of the USA have Local Toll Calls, that is calls that are
dialed as NXX- that are not free, but have a very small per min
cost.  Los Angels is one of these places I think.

On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?
 
 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
 Ta
 SJ
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Steve Dolloff
Some areas in the US also use 10 or 11 digital dialing for all calls,
whether they are local, long, toll or non-toll.

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Wieling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan
 
 Generally speaking, Yes. The usual dial plan in the USA is as follows:
 
 NXX- (Free Local Call to number in same Area Code)
 NXX-NXX- (Free Local Call to number in different Area Code)
 1-NXX- (Toll Call to number in same Area Code)
 1-NXX-NXX- (Toll Call to number in different Area Code)
 1-800-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
 1-855-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
 1-866-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
 1-877-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
 1-888-NXX- (Toll Free Call)
 
 Yes, in most places in the USA local calls are totally free, no per
min
 charge.
 
 Some parts of the USA have Local Toll Calls, that is calls that are
 dialed as NXX- that are not free, but have a very small per min
 cost.  Los Angels is one of these places I think.
 
 On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 12:50, Senad Jordanovic wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
  prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order
  To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?
 
  
  I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
  Ta
  SJ
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Friday 09 January 2004 13:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have
  to prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order
  To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?
 
  
  I have not been to USA (yet) :)
 
  Ta
  SJ

 In all cases of long distance, 1 plus the area code is used.  In
 small areas where local only is involved you usually only dial 7
 digits.  In metro areas with multiple area codes, you use 10 digit
 dialing.  Some places you use 10 digit dialing or 1 + area code,
 depends on the phone company.I've seen this happen on the east
 coast.

And then you have numbers that you cannot dial, because your local
provider forces you to dial the 1, but the remote provider refuses to
complete the call with the 1.

Aren't multiple providers wonderful?

-Tilghman

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Kris Boutilier
 Information on the way things are structured here can be gleaned by
Googling for 'North American Numbering Plan'. Way too much information can
be found at http://www.nanpa.com/

k.

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Sent: January 9, 2004 10:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan


Hi,

Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order 
To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?


I have not been to USA (yet) :)

Ta
SJ


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread info-lists
 Hi,

 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?

 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)

 Ta
 SJ

For comprehensive info by area code (and as pointed out it does differ
from location to location) check the North American Numbering Plan website
at http://www.nanpa.com/.  Left menu click on Dialing Plan and then go to
the location of your choice.

Robert
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread david



Yes, in most places in the USA local 
calls are totally free, no per mincharge.
This is not true in the US for business 
lines. Residentiallines have a "free" local calling area. 
However, business lines from an incumbent local exchange carrier like SBC 
nearlyalways charge rates for 7-digit local calls, usually, but not 
alwaysbased on mileage zones. Rates vary based on the local carrier, 
time of dayand the distance. Different rate schemes apply in 
different parts of the country. Some use ZoneUsage 
Measured(ZUM) schemes, others use Flat Rate or Measured Rate schemes. 
There are different rate plans for the same carriers 
for local toll callsthat fall outside the local calling area but are 
within the same LATA.

Some states do allow 10-digit dialing without a 1+. 
Washington DC (202) is an example of this for making local calls to other 
adjacent area codes. The entire North America Numbering Plan (NANP) is in 
a constant state of change as new area codes are added. There are 4 
different dialing plans for each area code that can vary with regard to the 
number of digits required and whether a 1+ is required:

- Home NPA Local Calls
- Foreign NPA Local Calls
- Home NPA Toll Calls
- Foreign NPA Toll Calls

If you go to www.nanpa.com 
and click on the "Dialing Plans" option in the left column, you can get the 
current ("Standard") and evolving ("Permissive") dialing plan for any area 
code. For example, 310 is currently setup this way:


Dialing 
PlanStandard 
Permissive
- Home NPA Local 
Calls 
7D 
 1+10D
- Foreign NPA Local 
Calls 
1+10D 
NA
- Home NPA Toll 
Calls 
7DNA
- Foreign NPA Toll 
Calls 
1+10D

This says you currently dial local calls within 310 as 7 
digits, but the plan will change to require 1+10 digits which is currently 
permitted.

Hope this helps 
David Schlossman
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] USA dial plan

2004-01-09 Thread Alfred R. Nurnberger
Here are just a few examles for clarification.

Lets assume my local area code is (212)

--- local calls - usually free --
555-= local call  7-digit dialing area
212 555-= local call 10-digit dialing area

 toll calls - metered ---
1 555-  = toll call  7-digit dialing area
1 212 555-  = toll call 10-digit dialing area
*) Notice that the dialed area code is the same as my own area code

--- long distance call - metered ---
1 518 555-  = long distance call
*) Dialed area code is different from my own area code


Regards.
Alfred

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 Hi,

 Do the callers in USA dialling from USA Telco lines always have to
 prefix the CITY/AREA code with 1 in order
 To successfully make a call to other USA destinations?

 
 I have not been to USA (yet) :)

 Ta
 SJ

For comprehensive info by area code (and as pointed out it does differ
from location to location) check the North American Numbering Plan website
at http://www.nanpa.com/.  Left menu click on Dialing Plan and then go to
the location of your choice.

Robert
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