RE: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
19 dec 2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Gregory Duchatelet: Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- In Asterisk, you should only have one phone per account. We do not support multiple devices per account. The PBX core needs to know how many devices that we are calling each time we access it. /O ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
It seems that Greg is truth for the case. Asterisk doesn't care how many devices register to the same account as it is a feature of sip protocol (please let me know if there is a method to restrict it). In my case, I use a soft phone an hard phone using the same sip account information to register to the same asterisk. Soft phone register first and then hard phone register later. I dial the number and hard phone ring. Then I disconnect hard phone and expect soft phone will be ring after a couple of time. However, soft phone didn't ring as the call is failed. I issue database showkey SIP/Registry/sip account in CLI. It displays the information which belongs to hard phone. That's mean asterisk will keep the information of hard phone even it is disconnected with ignoring the soft phone registration. Does asterisk can be set to refresh its registry in a couple of time to remove the old registry record? On 12/19/06, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19 dec 2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Gregory Duchatelet: Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- In Asterisk, you should only have one phone per account. We do not support multiple devices per account. The PBX core needs to know how many devices that we are calling each time we access it. /O ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
It doesn't have anything to do with hardphone versus softphone. The issue is that it can only keep track of one registration per account. When the hardphone gets unplugged, it will not know about the softphone until it registers with asterisk. It's initial registration was lost when the hardphone registered with the same info. rilawich ango wrote: It seems that Greg is truth for the case. Asterisk doesn't care how many devices register to the same account as it is a feature of sip protocol (please let me know if there is a method to restrict it). In my case, I use a soft phone an hard phone using the same sip account information to register to the same asterisk. Soft phone register first and then hard phone register later. I dial the number and hard phone ring. Then I disconnect hard phone and expect soft phone will be ring after a couple of time. However, soft phone didn't ring as the call is failed. I issue database showkey SIP/Registry/sip account in CLI. It displays the information which belongs to hard phone. That's mean asterisk will keep the information of hard phone even it is disconnected with ignoring the soft phone registration. Does asterisk can be set to refresh its registry in a couple of time to remove the old registry record? On 12/19/06, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19 dec 2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Gregory Duchatelet: Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- In Asterisk, you should only have one phone per account. We do not support multiple devices per account. The PBX core needs to know how many devices that we are calling each time we access it. /O ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Network stuff you didn't know http://www.networkoblivion.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. On Tuesday 19 December 2006 8:18 am, rilawich ango wrote: It seems that Greg is truth for the case. Asterisk doesn't care how many devices register to the same account as it is a feature of sip protocol (please let me know if there is a method to restrict it). In my case, I use a soft phone an hard phone using the same sip account information to register to the same asterisk. Soft phone register first and then hard phone register later. I dial the number and hard phone ring. Then I disconnect hard phone and expect soft phone will be ring after a couple of time. However, soft phone didn't ring as the call is failed. I issue database showkey SIP/Registry/sip account in CLI. It displays the information which belongs to hard phone. That's mean asterisk will keep the information of hard phone even it is disconnected with ignoring the soft phone registration. Does asterisk can be set to refresh its registry in a couple of time to remove the old registry record? On 12/19/06, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19 dec 2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Gregory Duchatelet: Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- In Asterisk, you should only have one phone per account. We do not support multiple devices per account. The PBX core needs to know how many devices that we are calling each time we access it. /O -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:48:01 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. On Tuesday 19 December 2006 8:18 am, rilawich ango wrote: It seems that Greg is truth for the case. Asterisk doesn't care how many devices register to the same account as it is a feature of sip protocol (please let me know if there is a method to restrict it). In my case, I use a soft phone an hard phone using the same sip account information to register to the same asterisk. Soft phone register first and then hard phone register later. I dial the number and hard phone ring. Then I disconnect hard phone and expect soft phone will be ring after a couple of time. However, soft phone didn't ring as the call is failed. I issue database showkey SIP/Registry/sip account in CLI. It displays the information which belongs to hard phone. That's mean asterisk will keep the information of hard phone even it is disconnected with ignoring the soft phone registration. Does asterisk can be set to refresh its registry in a couple of time to remove the old registry record? On 12/19/06, Johansson Olle E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 19 dec 2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Gregory Duchatelet: Hi, It seems that they both can make calls, but only one can receive call: the last registered... Greg Hi all, What will happen if 2 devices using the same set of sip account to connect to the same asterisk? Do they both can make call? Can they receive call as normal? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- In Asterisk, you should only have one phone per account. We do not support multiple devices per account. The PBX core needs to know how many devices that we are calling each time we access it. /O -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
Hi Rene - how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? If I understand your question correctly, the answer is you need two incoming phone lines. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
Hmm, I don't know what happens when one of the lines is busy and none of the lines get answered. It's easy enough to test. If it doesn't go to voicemail, then perhaps this is what you want: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+findme On Tuesday 19 December 2006 9:58 am, René Enskat wrote: how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:48:01 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
nothing happen it only let ring all lines which are not in use but i want that the busy vm message is coming when one line is busy. On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:55:34 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I don't know what happens when one of the lines is busy and none of the lines get answered. It's easy enough to test. If it doesn't go to voicemail, then perhaps this is what you want: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+findme On Tuesday 19 December 2006 9:58 am, René Enskat wrote: how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:48:01 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
We use this function regularly (you should see my phone's dialstring...). If one phone responds that it's unavailable, the rest of the phones will still ring through. In the event that none of the other phones are answered, the extension is considered unanswered, so depending on how you program your dialplan, the call will go to the unavailable voicemail. If you watch the CLI in this situation, you'll see Asterisk try all the devices in the group at the same time, and it'll just bypass any devices that are unavailable. Also, the problem with multiple phones registering with Asterisk at the same name is that Asterisk only stores the information about the device once, and is overwritten with each subsequent register. If you have a softphone and a hardphone both registered, whichever one has a faster re-register rate will win out over the slower one. The only way around this is through the call groups, as several people have stated. Aaron On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:55 -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: Hmm, I don't know what happens when one of the lines is busy and none of the lines get answered. It's easy enough to test. If it doesn't go to voicemail, then perhaps this is what you want: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+findme On Tuesday 19 December 2006 9:58 am, René Enskat wrote: how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:48:01 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. -- Aaron Daniel Senior Voice Analyst Sam Houston State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (936) 294-4198 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
yes thats we i use 100,a,b,c etc. do you can mail me your extensions how you do the dials and the vm? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:15:53 -0600 Aaron Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use this function regularly (you should see my phone's dialstring...). If one phone responds that it's unavailable, the rest of the phones will still ring through. In the event that none of the other phones are answered, the extension is considered unanswered, so depending on how you program your dialplan, the call will go to the unavailable voicemail. If you watch the CLI in this situation, you'll see Asterisk try all the devices in the group at the same time, and it'll just bypass any devices that are unavailable. Also, the problem with multiple phones registering with Asterisk at the same name is that Asterisk only stores the information about the device once, and is overwritten with each subsequent register. If you have a softphone and a hardphone both registered, whichever one has a faster re-register rate will win out over the slower one. The only way around this is through the call groups, as several people have stated. Aaron On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:55 -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: Hmm, I don't know what happens when one of the lines is busy and none of the lines get answered. It's easy enough to test. If it doesn't go to voicemail, then perhaps this is what you want: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+tips+findme On Tuesday 19 December 2006 9:58 am, René Enskat wrote: how isit possible to get the VM there when one line is busy? regards rene On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:48:01 -0800 Carla Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. -- Aaron Daniel Senior Voice Analyst Sam Houston State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (936) 294-4198 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 2 devices using same sip account
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Carla Schroder wrote: Your phones only register once, when they first start up. Seems to me that having multiple phones on the same account is asking for trouble- why not set up multiple accounts in the usual way, and create a ring group for all the phones you want to use? Like this example that rings two phones at the same time: exten = 100,1,Dial(SIP/101SIP/102,30,t) exten = 100,2,VoiceMail([EMAIL PROTECTED]) There are all kinds of fancy variations on this theme, but the idea is the same: one user with many phones, one extension, one voicemail box. I've been setting up a few systems recently with a SIP account and an IAX account (same passwords, CLI, etc.) and having the users use a SIP hardphone for the office desk, and an IAX (idefisk) softphone for out-of-office calls. (My Dial() calls both accounts, so both phones ring) It saves hassles with NAT, etc. for remote SIP phones too. No good if you only have SIP phones though! Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
