RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Totaro
 
 Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in order
 to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have a
 SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
 possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
 happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
 features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
 through Asterisk automatically?
 
 Thanks,
 Waldo


I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is out of
the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk is not
able to listen for it.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Waldo Rubinstein
If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite  
attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made or  
answered by that peer?


- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:



Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in order
to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have a
SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
through Asterisk automatically?

Thanks,
Waldo



I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is out of
the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk  
is not

able to listen for it.

Thanks,
Steve
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Totaro
Well, then set canreinvite=no

 
 If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
 attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made or
 answered by that peer?
 
 - Waldo
 
 On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 
  Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in
order
  to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have a
  SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
  possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
  happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
  features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
  through Asterisk automatically?
 
  Thanks,
  Waldo
 
 
  I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is out
of
  the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk
  is not
  able to listen for it.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Waldo Rubinstein
I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be  
recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path all  
the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it  
in the media path or not.


- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


Well, then set canreinvite=no



If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made or
answered by that peer?

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:



Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in

order

to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have a
SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
through Asterisk automatically?

Thanks,
Waldo



I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is out

of

the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk
is not
able to listen for it.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Time Bandit
On 12/8/05, Waldo Rubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
 recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path all
 the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it
 in the media path or not.
Some options of the Dial command force * to stay in the media path,
like t (to let user transfer by hitting #). So you could just put one
of thos options in your dial string

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Totaro
There may be a better way but off the top of my head this idea jumped
out.  It assumes that you know prior to making the call that you need to
record it and that you have phones capable of multiple lines.  

Setup a second line with a different entry in sip.conf with
canreinvite=no and use that line to make your calls.  

Other than that I see reference on the wiki to an H option in dial but
have never used it.  I think you will still need to know prior to
dialing whether you will want to record the call or not so you can dial
the exten that uses the H option.

If you get this to work, please post your results back to this thread.

Re: Re: H option
by flobi on Monday 25 of July, 2005 [10:43:46]
why not just set canreinvite=yes and on the calls where you don't want
reinvite use the H option (if it actually does disable reinvite) or the
T or t which also disable reinvite. 

7960G Seems to need canreinvite=no as well.
by Anonymous on Friday 29 of October, 2004 [22:22:43]
Running P0S3-07-2-00.

Re: H option
by Anonymous on Monday 26 of July, 2004 [10:10:07]
(:confused:) Hmm... Now I started to wonder, if it's somehow possible to
override the canreinvite=no setting on per call basis. Anyone?

H option
by Anonymous on Saturday 10 of July, 2004 [04:15:13]
Asterisk will not reinvite if the H option is used in the Dial command.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+canreinvite

Thanks,
Steve

 
 I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
 recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path all
 the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it
 in the media path or not.
 
 - Waldo
 
 On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  Well, then set canreinvite=no
 
 
  If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
  attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made or
  answered by that peer?
 
  - Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 
  Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in
  order
  to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have
a
  SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
  possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
  happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
  features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
  through Asterisk automatically?
 
  Thanks,
  Waldo
 
 
  I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is
out
  of
  the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk
  is not
  able to listen for it.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Waldo Rubinstein
This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that  
these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in the  
media path even if canreinvite=yes.


I'll give it a try.

Thanks,
Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


There may be a better way but off the top of my head this idea jumped
out.  It assumes that you know prior to making the call that you  
need to

record it and that you have phones capable of multiple lines.

Setup a second line with a different entry in sip.conf with
canreinvite=no and use that line to make your calls.

Other than that I see reference on the wiki to an H option in dial but
have never used it.  I think you will still need to know prior to
dialing whether you will want to record the call or not so you can  
dial

the exten that uses the H option.

If you get this to work, please post your results back to this thread.

Re: Re: H option
by flobi on Monday 25 of July, 2005 [10:43:46]
why not just set canreinvite=yes and on the calls where you don't want
reinvite use the H option (if it actually does disable reinvite) or  
the

T or t which also disable reinvite.

7960G Seems to need canreinvite=no as well.
by Anonymous on Friday 29 of October, 2004 [22:22:43]
Running P0S3-07-2-00.

Re: H option
by Anonymous on Monday 26 of July, 2004 [10:10:07]
(:confused:) Hmm... Now I started to wonder, if it's somehow  
possible to

override the canreinvite=no setting on per call basis. Anyone?

H option
by Anonymous on Saturday 10 of July, 2004 [04:15:13]
Asterisk will not reinvite if the H option is used in the Dial  
command.


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+canreinvite

Thanks,
Steve



I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path all
the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it
in the media path or not.

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


Well, then set canreinvite=no



If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made or
answered by that peer?

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:



Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in

order

to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I have

a

SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that if
possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to go
through Asterisk automatically?

Thanks,
Waldo



I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is

out

of

the media path then features like *1 will not work since asterisk
is not
able to listen for it.

Thanks,
Steve
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Totaro
Yeah, makes sense now that I think about it a little more.  Guess you
will have to prefix your exten so that the dial string with the H is
used and dial that prefix when you know or think that you may have to
record a call.

 
 This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that
 these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in the
 media path even if canreinvite=yes.
 
 I'll give it a try.
 
 Thanks,
 Waldo
 
 On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  There may be a better way but off the top of my head this idea
jumped
  out.  It assumes that you know prior to making the call that you
  need to
  record it and that you have phones capable of multiple lines.
 
  Setup a second line with a different entry in sip.conf with
  canreinvite=no and use that line to make your calls.
 
  Other than that I see reference on the wiki to an H option in dial
but
  have never used it.  I think you will still need to know prior to
  dialing whether you will want to record the call or not so you can
  dial
  the exten that uses the H option.
 
  If you get this to work, please post your results back to this
thread.
 
  Re: Re: H option
  by flobi on Monday 25 of July, 2005 [10:43:46]
  why not just set canreinvite=yes and on the calls where you don't
want
  reinvite use the H option (if it actually does disable reinvite) or
  the
  T or t which also disable reinvite.
 
  7960G Seems to need canreinvite=no as well.
  by Anonymous on Friday 29 of October, 2004 [22:22:43]
  Running P0S3-07-2-00.
 
  Re: H option
  by Anonymous on Monday 26 of July, 2004 [10:10:07]
  (:confused:) Hmm... Now I started to wonder, if it's somehow
  possible to
  override the canreinvite=no setting on per call basis. Anyone?
 
  H option
  by Anonymous on Saturday 10 of July, 2004 [04:15:13]
  Asterisk will not reinvite if the H option is used in the Dial
  command.
 
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+canreinvite
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
 
  I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
  recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path
all
  the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it
  in the media path or not.
 
  - Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  Well, then set canreinvite=no
 
 
  If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
  attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made
or
  answered by that peer?
 
  - Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 
  Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in
  order
  to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I
have
  a
  SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that
if
  possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
  happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
  features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to
go
  through Asterisk automatically?
 
  Thanks,
  Waldo
 
 
  I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is
  out
  of
  the media path then features like *1 will not work since
asterisk
  is not
  able to listen for it.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Noah Silverman

I have a related issue.

I have everything set up correctly so that I CAN use live recording  
(Press *1 to start and stop recording.)
When I press *1, the console indicates user pressed *1 to start  
recording.  I also hear the beep and an audio file is created.   
The problem is that the audio file IS NOTHING BUT SILENCE.  It is the  
correct length, but only contains silence.


Any ideas???

-N


On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


Yeah, makes sense now that I think about it a little more.  Guess you
will have to prefix your exten so that the dial string with the H is
used and dial that prefix when you know or think that you may have to
record a call.



This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that
these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in the
media path even if canreinvite=yes.

I'll give it a try.

Thanks,
Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


There may be a better way but off the top of my head this idea

jumped

out.  It assumes that you know prior to making the call that you
need to
record it and that you have phones capable of multiple lines.

Setup a second line with a different entry in sip.conf with
canreinvite=no and use that line to make your calls.

Other than that I see reference on the wiki to an H option in dial

but

have never used it.  I think you will still need to know prior to
dialing whether you will want to record the call or not so you can
dial
the exten that uses the H option.

If you get this to work, please post your results back to this

thread.


Re: Re: H option
by flobi on Monday 25 of July, 2005 [10:43:46]
why not just set canreinvite=yes and on the calls where you don't

want

reinvite use the H option (if it actually does disable reinvite) or
the
T or t which also disable reinvite.

7960G Seems to need canreinvite=no as well.
by Anonymous on Friday 29 of October, 2004 [22:22:43]
Running P0S3-07-2-00.

Re: H option
by Anonymous on Monday 26 of July, 2004 [10:10:07]
(:confused:) Hmm... Now I started to wonder, if it's somehow
possible to
override the canreinvite=no setting on per call basis. Anyone?

H option
by Anonymous on Saturday 10 of July, 2004 [04:15:13]
Asterisk will not reinvite if the H option is used in the Dial
command.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+canreinvite

Thanks,
Steve



I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path

all

the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep it
in the media path or not.

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:


Well, then set canreinvite=no



If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is made

or

answered by that peer?

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:



Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path in

order

to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I

have

a

SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means that

if

possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However, what
happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to

go

through Asterisk automatically?

Thanks,
Waldo



I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk is

out

of

the media path then features like *1 will not work since

asterisk

is not
able to listen for it.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that  
 these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in the  
 media path even if canreinvite=yes.

You might even have another option: DTMF via SIP INFO

Quote from asterisk-devel two days ago:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.devel/14693

Cheers, Philipp


Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

 I was thinking of hacking things a bit to allow my asterisk to stay
 out of the media path in the above case, but figured it couldn't hurt
 to post a quick sanity check here.  Anyone see any problems?

This is certainly possible, but Asterisk currently assumes that if it is 
not in the media path, it also won't be able to receive DTMF frames. 
However, if you are using SIP INFO for DTMF signaling, then it should 
'just work', since when Asterisk sees the appropriate DTMF frames it 
will cause the bridge to 'break' and bring the media path back.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Steve Totaro
Do you have canreinvite=yes?  If you do change it to no.  If that works
then read the rest of this thread for options if you do not want all
streams to through asterisk.

Thanks,
Steve

 
 I have a related issue.
 
 I have everything set up correctly so that I CAN use live recording
 (Press *1 to start and stop recording.)
 When I press *1, the console indicates user pressed *1 to start
 recording.  I also hear the beep and an audio file is created.
 The problem is that the audio file IS NOTHING BUT SILENCE.  It is the
 correct length, but only contains silence.
 
 Any ideas???
 
 -N
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  Yeah, makes sense now that I think about it a little more.  Guess
you
  will have to prefix your exten so that the dial string with the H is
  used and dial that prefix when you know or think that you may have
to
  record a call.
 
 
  This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that
  these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in
the
  media path even if canreinvite=yes.
 
  I'll give it a try.
 
  Thanks,
  Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  There may be a better way but off the top of my head this idea
  jumped
  out.  It assumes that you know prior to making the call that you
  need to
  record it and that you have phones capable of multiple lines.
 
  Setup a second line with a different entry in sip.conf with
  canreinvite=no and use that line to make your calls.
 
  Other than that I see reference on the wiki to an H option in dial
  but
  have never used it.  I think you will still need to know prior to
  dialing whether you will want to record the call or not so you can
  dial
  the exten that uses the H option.
 
  If you get this to work, please post your results back to this
  thread.
 
  Re: Re: H option
  by flobi on Monday 25 of July, 2005 [10:43:46]
  why not just set canreinvite=yes and on the calls where you don't
  want
  reinvite use the H option (if it actually does disable reinvite)
or
  the
  T or t which also disable reinvite.
 
  7960G Seems to need canreinvite=no as well.
  by Anonymous on Friday 29 of October, 2004 [22:22:43]
  Running P0S3-07-2-00.
 
  Re: H option
  by Anonymous on Monday 26 of July, 2004 [10:10:07]
  (:confused:) Hmm... Now I started to wonder, if it's somehow
  possible to
  override the canreinvite=no setting on per call basis. Anyone?
 
  H option
  by Anonymous on Saturday 10 of July, 2004 [04:15:13]
  Asterisk will not reinvite if the H option is used in the Dial
  command.
 
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+canreinvite
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
 
 
  I understand. But because the majority of calls are not to be
  recorded, I don't have a need to keep Asterisk in the media path
  all
  the time. That's why I'm wondering if you could dynamically keep
it
  in the media path or not.
 
  - Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  Well, then set canreinvite=no
 
 
  If that's the case, is it possible to override the canreinvite
  attribute of a SIP peer in extensions.conf before a call is
made
  or
  answered by that peer?
 
  - Waldo
 
  On Dec 8, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
 
  Is there a way to optionally keep asterisk in the media path
in
  order
  to record calls using the Monitor command? For example, if I
  have
  a
  SIP peer that is defined with canreinvite=yes, this means
that
  if
  possible, Asterisk will not be in the media path. However,
what
  happens if the user presses something like *1 (defined in
  features.conf) to record the call? Will the call be forced to
  go
  through Asterisk automatically?
 
  Thanks,
  Waldo
 
 
  I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that once the asterisk
is
  out
  of
  the media path then features like *1 will not work since
  asterisk
  is not
  able to listen for it.
 
  Thanks,
  Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Call Recording and SIP canreinvite

2005-12-08 Thread Waldo Rubinstein

Has anyone confirmed this? It sounds like an interesting theory.

- Waldo

On Dec 8, 2005, at 12:46 PM, Philipp von Klitzing wrote:


Hi!


This and Time Bandit's comment makes sense. I didn't realize that
these options in the Dial string will force Asterisk to stay in the
media path even if canreinvite=yes.


You might even have another option: DTMF via SIP INFO

Quote from asterisk-devel two days ago:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.devel/14693

Cheers, Philipp


Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:


I was thinking of hacking things a bit to allow my asterisk to stay
out of the media path in the above case, but figured it couldn't hurt
to post a quick sanity check here.  Anyone see any problems?


This is certainly possible, but Asterisk currently assumes that if  
it is

not in the media path, it also won't be able to receive DTMF frames.
However, if you are using SIP INFO for DTMF signaling, then it should
'just work', since when Asterisk sees the appropriate DTMF frames it
will cause the bridge to 'break' and bring the media path back.



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