Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
all my 7960's work great. loading the new sip image was no problem , took about 5 min. I even got them from ebay = Jason On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:52:32 -0800, Tracy R Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 05:07:33PM -0500, Bob Willock spake thusly: I just bought a couple of these Cisco 7970G phones and it seems that they require a SIP image binary file to load when the phone boots and this file Cisco phones are hugely overrated. I have deployed a number of them and I have decided to switch to Polycom. Flashing them is a PITA. Especially if you get old ones. The phones always come with SCCP. Then you have to pay a bunch of money (on top of the already expensive phones) to get a SIP license. Managing hundreds of SIP*.cnf files is a huge pain too, I have put them into a database and generate them as needed. Hell, the power supplies for these things alone cost $35! Oh, and make SURE you get a real Cisco power supply when you buy your phone. I found out the hard way. I had been getting the power cubes for $10. They were listed as the same part number as the Cisco power cube. Then I saw real Cisco power supplies and noticed they looked different and found the price to be $35. Now I know why several of my phones do not work properly! I swapped in Cisco power supplies and they work better. Not Cisco's fault but another thing to look out for. Then you find that your phone has an older version of SCCP which won't retrieve the new SIP images with long filenames. So you upgrade to the most recent short filename SIP image and find that it won't take a standard SIPDefault.conf file because it is too big so you provide a very minimal SIPDefault.conf and finally upgrade to the latest SIP firmware. Now you can configure and use the phone. My first few 7960's were used. DO NOT buy used 7960's! They usually aren't that much cheaper (none of the ones I found anyway) Cisco doesn't support Asterisk, open source, or open standards. Don't use Cisco phones! -- Tracy Reedhttp://copilotcom.com This message is cryptographically signed for your protection. Info: http://copilotconsulting.com/sig ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
*puts on flame suit* Bob Willock wrote: I just bought a couple of these Cisco 7970G phones and it seems that they require a SIP image binary file to load when the phone boots and this file updates the firmware of the phone to run in SIP mode. The only problem is that Cisco seems to want to profit from the phone sales and then block you from using the phone by not allowing downloads of the binary files. What a scam!! Has anyone been successful in getting the SIP binary firmware update file? If not how did you get your phone working? Thanks!! ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
Bob Willock wrote: I just bought a couple of these Cisco 7970G phones and it seems that they require a SIP image binary file to load when the phone boots and this file updates the firmware of the phone to run in SIP mode. The only problem is that Cisco seems to want to profit from the phone sales and then block you from using the phone by not allowing downloads of the binary files. What a scam!! Has anyone been successful in getting the SIP binary firmware update file? If not how did you get your phone working? If you read this list's archives, or the Wiki, or searched Google, you would have already been well aware of the fact that Cisco does not make their SIP firmware images available without a support contract. None of us are surprised by this, so you shouldn't be either. In the case of the 7970G, there _is no_ SIP firmware image, because they do not support SIP on that phone. The only Cisco phones that currently support SIP are the 7912G, the 7940G and the 7960G. If you purchased 7970G phones expecting to use them with a SIP server, then you will be disappointed. Again, this is all documented on the Wiki. The 7970G phone works fine as it comes out of the box (from what I understand, I've never seen one in person), but it only supports SCCP, which is Cisco's proprietary VOIP protocol. Asterisk does have support for this protocol, in two flavors (chan_sccp and chan_skinny). Again, this is all documented on the Wiki. I'm sorry you spent so much money for phones that will not do what you want. It's too bad that 5 minutes of browsing would have allowed you to avoid that. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
*puts on flame suit* (bah ignore the other prematurely-sent reply) Seriously, though. It's not a scam, it's their business model (which is shared by many many companies). The software license is separate from the hardware. Always has been. You probably should have known that before buying the phone, and a little extra research on this list and the Wiki would have told you that. Just pay the $7 or $10 for the firmware license already, sheesh. Greg Bob Willock wrote: I just bought a couple of these Cisco 7970G phones and it seems that they require a SIP image binary file to load when the phone boots and this file updates the firmware of the phone to run in SIP mode. The only problem is that Cisco seems to want to profit from the phone sales and then block you from using the phone by not allowing downloads of the binary files. What a scam!! Has anyone been successful in getting the SIP binary firmware update file? If not how did you get your phone working? Thanks!! ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
sorry wasn't paying too close attention too the model number, the other current reply addresses that. Just pay the $7 or $10 for the firmware license already, sheesh. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7970G VOIP phones
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 05:07:33PM -0500, Bob Willock spake thusly: I just bought a couple of these Cisco 7970G phones and it seems that they require a SIP image binary file to load when the phone boots and this file Cisco phones are hugely overrated. I have deployed a number of them and I have decided to switch to Polycom. Flashing them is a PITA. Especially if you get old ones. The phones always come with SCCP. Then you have to pay a bunch of money (on top of the already expensive phones) to get a SIP license. Managing hundreds of SIP*.cnf files is a huge pain too, I have put them into a database and generate them as needed. Hell, the power supplies for these things alone cost $35! Oh, and make SURE you get a real Cisco power supply when you buy your phone. I found out the hard way. I had been getting the power cubes for $10. They were listed as the same part number as the Cisco power cube. Then I saw real Cisco power supplies and noticed they looked different and found the price to be $35. Now I know why several of my phones do not work properly! I swapped in Cisco power supplies and they work better. Not Cisco's fault but another thing to look out for. Then you find that your phone has an older version of SCCP which won't retrieve the new SIP images with long filenames. So you upgrade to the most recent short filename SIP image and find that it won't take a standard SIPDefault.conf file because it is too big so you provide a very minimal SIPDefault.conf and finally upgrade to the latest SIP firmware. Now you can configure and use the phone. My first few 7960's were used. DO NOT buy used 7960's! They usually aren't that much cheaper (none of the ones I found anyway) Cisco doesn't support Asterisk, open source, or open standards. Don't use Cisco phones! -- Tracy Reedhttp://copilotcom.com This message is cryptographically signed for your protection. Info: http://copilotconsulting.com/sig pgpLFcMjJu7a2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
