Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Openfire Asterisk-IM Plugin Performance Observation

2008-06-24 Thread Ed W

 Is it better for production to run Openfire on a separate server than the PBX?
   


Since discovering linux vservers I put every service into its own 
install.  Each install can be very lightweight and vservers only add 
about 1MB to ram usage (I don't run a separate init process), so very 
lightweight. 

The advantage is that it's super simple to backup each server and you 
can test upgrades by simply copying the image, fire up a new instance, 
test your upgrade, then burn it down again...  Piece of cake to shuffle 
services between real machines also (preserving IP addresses also if 
that's required).  Backups can be done very easily (make the /vserver 
dir an LVM disk)

Good luck

Ed W

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Openfire Asterisk-IM Plugin Performance Observation

2008-06-24 Thread Al lists
i used it on one server a little while ago.
my primary use was ability to show each user's status on spark.
i did not get consistence results, phone status was not accurate.
and did not try it after that, maybe its fixed in newer versions.


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Julian Lyndon-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 See below:

 Erik Anderson wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:47 PM, JR Richardson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So now the PBX is over 1.2 Gig for the installation.  Typical PBX
  installs are under 600 Meg.  This makes me wonder about server
  stability, reliability and performance as uptime creeps on and user
  count increases over 50 to 100+.
 
  Increased data on the hard drive won't really have an affect on
  reliability or performance.
 
  Can anyone give me feedback on real world experience with this type of
  setup and any performance issues that my arise?
 
  I can't speak directly to the asterisk + openfire situation. I can,
  however, say that I've been running openfire for nearly a year now on
  a very highly-loaded server (other than openfire, it's running nagios
  and cacti, monitoring about 300 devices around our network) - the load
  average on this 5-year single processor old dell server is pegged near
  1.00 24x7. I haven't had a single problem with openfire, and I have
  between 50 and 100 open sessions at any one time. In the year that
  I've been running openfire, I've only had to restart it once, and that
  was to upgrade the software. It takes very little CPU, and a modest
  amount of RAM.
 
  Is it better for production to run Openfire on a separate server than
 the PBX?
 
  What's your definition of better. Is it better to not have all your
  eggs in one basket? Is it better to only need to purchase one server?
  Is it better to only have one server to manage/update/etc versus two?
 
  My biggest concern is deploying a 100+ user environment with high call
  volume and high chat volume.  Java seems to be a bit resource hungry
  with the user notifications and call pop ups.  I would hate to have
  the IM server walking over Asterisk and affecting call quality or PBX
  stability.
 
  Speaking personally, I'd have no problems putting openfire and
  asterisk on the same box. If needed, you could even just nice the

 We run with the openfire process on the same box as the * server - we
 have not had a single problem with openfire in over 2 years now.

  openfire process down to a lower priority than asterisk - it's not as
  latency-sensitive as asterisk is. I'd doubt you'll need to do that,
  though.
 
  -Erik
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Openfire Asterisk-IM Plugin Performance Observation

2008-06-20 Thread Erik Anderson
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:47 PM, JR Richardson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So now the PBX is over 1.2 Gig for the installation.  Typical PBX
 installs are under 600 Meg.  This makes me wonder about server
 stability, reliability and performance as uptime creeps on and user
 count increases over 50 to 100+.

Increased data on the hard drive won't really have an affect on
reliability or performance.

 Can anyone give me feedback on real world experience with this type of
 setup and any performance issues that my arise?

I can't speak directly to the asterisk + openfire situation. I can,
however, say that I've been running openfire for nearly a year now on
a very highly-loaded server (other than openfire, it's running nagios
and cacti, monitoring about 300 devices around our network) - the load
average on this 5-year single processor old dell server is pegged near
1.00 24x7. I haven't had a single problem with openfire, and I have
between 50 and 100 open sessions at any one time. In the year that
I've been running openfire, I've only had to restart it once, and that
was to upgrade the software. It takes very little CPU, and a modest
amount of RAM.

 Is it better for production to run Openfire on a separate server than the PBX?

What's your definition of better. Is it better to not have all your
eggs in one basket? Is it better to only need to purchase one server?
Is it better to only have one server to manage/update/etc versus two?

 My biggest concern is deploying a 100+ user environment with high call
 volume and high chat volume.  Java seems to be a bit resource hungry
 with the user notifications and call pop ups.  I would hate to have
 the IM server walking over Asterisk and affecting call quality or PBX
 stability.

Speaking personally, I'd have no problems putting openfire and
asterisk on the same box. If needed, you could even just nice the
openfire process down to a lower priority than asterisk - it's not as
latency-sensitive as asterisk is. I'd doubt you'll need to do that,
though.

-Erik

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Openfire Asterisk-IM Plugin Performance Observation

2008-06-20 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith
See below:

Erik Anderson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:47 PM, JR Richardson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So now the PBX is over 1.2 Gig for the installation.  Typical PBX
 installs are under 600 Meg.  This makes me wonder about server
 stability, reliability and performance as uptime creeps on and user
 count increases over 50 to 100+.
 
 Increased data on the hard drive won't really have an affect on
 reliability or performance.
 
 Can anyone give me feedback on real world experience with this type of
 setup and any performance issues that my arise?
 
 I can't speak directly to the asterisk + openfire situation. I can,
 however, say that I've been running openfire for nearly a year now on
 a very highly-loaded server (other than openfire, it's running nagios
 and cacti, monitoring about 300 devices around our network) - the load
 average on this 5-year single processor old dell server is pegged near
 1.00 24x7. I haven't had a single problem with openfire, and I have
 between 50 and 100 open sessions at any one time. In the year that
 I've been running openfire, I've only had to restart it once, and that
 was to upgrade the software. It takes very little CPU, and a modest
 amount of RAM.
 
 Is it better for production to run Openfire on a separate server than the 
 PBX?
 
 What's your definition of better. Is it better to not have all your
 eggs in one basket? Is it better to only need to purchase one server?
 Is it better to only have one server to manage/update/etc versus two?
 
 My biggest concern is deploying a 100+ user environment with high call
 volume and high chat volume.  Java seems to be a bit resource hungry
 with the user notifications and call pop ups.  I would hate to have
 the IM server walking over Asterisk and affecting call quality or PBX
 stability.
 
 Speaking personally, I'd have no problems putting openfire and
 asterisk on the same box. If needed, you could even just nice the

We run with the openfire process on the same box as the * server - we 
have not had a single problem with openfire in over 2 years now.

 openfire process down to a lower priority than asterisk - it's not as
 latency-sensitive as asterisk is. I'd doubt you'll need to do that,
 though.
 
 -Erik
 
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