Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Ben Willcox
Olivier wrote:
 At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to 
 act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with 
 on-the-phone value).
 Do you agree ?
 Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
 Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?

The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an 
asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the phone' 
status to XMPP clients. It works very well.
It also has the capability to Pause and Unpause queue members depending 
on idle status, but that is very annoying and we turn that off!

Cheers,
Ben

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 07:53:12PM +, Ben Willcox wrote:
 Olivier wrote:
  At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to 
  act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with 
  on-the-phone value).
  Do you agree ?
  Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
  Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?
 
 The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an 
 asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the phone' 
 status to XMPP clients. It works very well.

Is that specific to that server?

What would be needed to implement the same thing on a different server?
(that doesn't take 200MB of memory to boot)

What about support in clients?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Philippe Sultan
Hi Olivier,

 At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server to act as
 XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with on-the-phone
 value).
  Do you agree ?

This is indeed a direction we should consider in order to relay call
and device state information to XMPP users. As those kind of messages
are exchanged via PEP (Personal Eventing via Pubsub), we'll have to
implement that too. But still, I'm not sure we can provide this kind
of presence information on behalf of XMPP users if we connect Asterisk
as a component.

On the other hand, by connecting Asterisk as a XMPP client, we could
easily pass call and device state information to that client's buddy
list. The main drawback of that method is that Asterisk needs to be
provided with the user password.

 Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?

I know Psi supports PEP, not sure about User Activity though.

 Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity messages ?

No.

Philippe

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as XMPP component. How to use it ?

2008-02-07 Thread Greg Oliver


On Feb 7, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 07:53:12PM +, Ben Willcox wrote:
 Olivier wrote:
 At the opposite, I think it could be useful for an Asterisk server  
 to
 act as XMPP User Activity provider (ie update XEP-0108 field with
 on-the-phone value).
 Do you agree ?
 Is there any XMPP client supporting User Activity ?
 Is Asterisk capable of getting or sending such User Activity  
 messages ?

 The Openfire XMPP server (http://www.igniterealtime.org/) has an
 asterisk plugin which uses the manager interface to send 'On the  
 phone'
 status to XMPP clients. It works very well.

 Is that specific to that server?

 What would be needed to implement the same thing on a different  
 server?
 (that doesn't take 200MB of memory to boot)

 What about support in clients?


Yeah, that is bs for a server that requires a jdk and only sends 8k  
messages at most. ..
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