Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-15 Thread Alan Ferrency
We use Linksys/Sipura phones, and do mass provisioning via tftp and
http.

There is no need for a compiler for the SPA-841, 941, 942, 3000, or
2000 phones at least; I don't have direct experience with others. We
feed a raw XML configuration file to the phone via a cgi-bin script
which receives the MAC address as a form parameter, and all is well
with the world.

I posted our experiences on voip-info.org, here:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/sipura+mass+deployment

We've had our deployment system in place almost totally unchanged for
the last 18 months or so with no real problems. The only thing I find
slightly less than optimal is that for major configuration changes,
the phones seem to need a factory reset to pick up the changes in a
timely manner.

Alan Ferrency

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, George Pajari wrote:

 Aastra are a delight -- no need for a compiler (like the Grandstream and
 Linksys phones) -- and extremely well documented configuration files.

 --
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 Open Source VoIP/Telephony Specialists  1 877 NET VOIP (638 8647 x102)
   www.netvoice.ca  www.ip-centrex.ca
   www.digium.ca www.grandstream.ca www.sipura.ca www.snom.ca

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-12 Thread George Pajari
Aastra are a delight -- no need for a compiler (like the Grandstream and 
Linksys phones) -- and extremely well documented configuration files.


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 www.netvoice.ca  www.ip-centrex.ca
 www.digium.ca www.grandstream.ca www.sipura.ca www.snom.ca

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-12 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, George Pajari wrote:

Aastra are a delight -- no need for a compiler (like the Grandstream and 
Linksys phones) -- and extremely well documented configuration files.


While I agree that Grandstream phones might not be the easiest things in 
the world, I did find this recently:


  http://www.pkts.ca/gsutil.shtml

and initial results look very promising...

Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-11 Thread Stephen Bosch
MF wrote:
 Best and easiest provisioning I´ve found imho is Snom, great web
 interfase , followed by Polycom (web interfase used to be poor and slow,
 but once you set it up, works very well)

Polycoms are great if you use the cfg files over tftp.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-09 Thread Pavel Jezek
ci$co phones are definitively not good choice if you would like to use 
with anything other than callmanager as signaling server (especially 
true for new models 7911/41/61/70)





Michelle Dupuis wrote:
We used Aastra's for a good while, but gave up on them (and switched 
to Cisco). Aastra's seem cheaper up front (hardware costs), but the 
time wasted chasing firmware bugs, lack of documentation, and poor 
support quickly eat up any savings. (unless your needs are very basic).

MD


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I liked polycom a lot.

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*Subject:* [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I’ve used CISCO 79XX
phones, and they’re great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream
phones, but their provisioning sucks.

What is everybody else using in large environments where
individual config is not an option?



Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

http://www.jasco.net.au http://www.jasco.net.au/

Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378




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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Hales

I know Brett and Jurgen have been pretty happy with the Snom's - Brett
even wrote an auto-provision utility for the Snom's at one time.

later,

PaulH

On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 19:45 +1100, Rod Bacon wrote:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
 understand/implement central provisioning? I’ve used CISCO 79XX
 phones, and they’re great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream
 phones, but their provisioning sucks. 
 
  
 
 What is everybody else using in large environments where individual
 config is not an option?
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Rod Bacon
 
 
 Technical Manager
 
 
 JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.
 
 
 http://www.jasco.net.au
 
 
 Ph. 03 9432 6376
 
 
 Fax: 03 9432 6378
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Ed W

Paul Hales wrote:

I know Brett and Jurgen have been pretty happy with the Snom's - Brett
even wrote an auto-provision utility for the Snom's at one time.
  


Yes, look at the latest Trixbox for the basic SNOM templates and then 
off you go.


You setup a tftp server (easy), the phone looks for two files, one 
generic snom file and another with it's MAC address in the name.  So you 
have generic stuff in one file and specific phone stuff in the other.  
You can get the initial phone config done using DHCP, or just log into 
each phone and change the URL to point to your tftp server.


Get the phone roughly setup manually and then simply look at the web 
config utility, it has an option to dump it's entire config out and so 
you just cut and paste the entries you want to override into the tftp 
files.  Piece of cake.


You can easily reboot all the phones by sending them a certain SIP 
message, and so it's very easy to redeploy a new config, or reboot all 
the phones when you reboot the server.  The phones themselves re-read 
the config every X minutes so they pickup new config quickly even 
without a reboot.


I have a bunch of 360s which I negotiated for about the same price as 
the 320s.  Drop me a line if you want the name of a UK firm to buy them 
from.  They work nicely out of the box including the flashy lights 
showing busy extensions.  The only thing which doesn't work without a 
patch (it appears) is line pickup by pushing the BLF keys.  I can live 
without that, but it would be nice to have.


Happy to post my configs if anyone wants to write up the notes on the wiki?

Ed
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Christoph Fürstaller
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Hi,

I'm using a Thomason ST2030. Had difficulties in the beginning, but
after a firmware upgrade it works fine. And autoprovisioning works good.
Most of the parameters are described in their official (marked as
confidential) admin documentation from their website. Even a centralized
phonebook is possible.

Chris...

Rod Bacon schrieb:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
 understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones,
 and they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but
 their provisioning sucks. 
 
  
 
 What is everybody else using in large environments where individual
 config is not an option?
 
  
 
 
 
 Rod Bacon
 
 Technical Manager
 
 JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.
 
 http://www.jasco.net.au http://www.jasco.net.au/ 
 
 Ph. 03 9432 6376
 
 Fax: 03 9432 6378
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Ahsan Masood
Hi,

We are using following phones for large deployments using auto-provisioning.

Grandstream phones (full range)
Snom Phones (full range)
Aastra Phone (full range)
UTstarcom (Wifi phones)


~Ahsan


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Hi,

I'm using a Thomason ST2030. Had difficulties in the beginning, but
after a firmware upgrade it works fine. And autoprovisioning works good.
Most of the parameters are described in their official (marked as
confidential) admin documentation from their website. Even a centralized
phonebook is possible.

Chris...

Rod Bacon schrieb:
 Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
 understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones,
 and they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but
 their provisioning sucks. 
 
  
 
 What is everybody else using in large environments where individual
 config is not an option?
 
  
 
 
 
 Rod Bacon
 
 Technical Manager
 
 JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.
 
 http://www.jasco.net.au http://www.jasco.net.au/ 
 
 Ph. 03 9432 6376
 
 Fax: 03 9432 6378
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Pavel Jezek
Chris, (or others), do you have any negative experience with Thomson 
2030? it looks very promising!

I hesitate between thomson and linksys spa 922/942,
I'm not sure, what is better for bussines use :-\
snoms are probably also good, but functionality/price ratio is, imho, 
better for thomson or linksys...

PJ



Hi,

I'm using a Thomason ST2030. Had difficulties in the beginning, but
after a firmware upgrade it works fine. And autoprovisioning works good.
Most of the parameters are described in their official (marked as
confidential) admin documentation from their website. Even a centralized
phonebook is possible.

Chris...

  

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Drew Gibson

We Use both Grandstream and Aastra phones

Some simple scripts improve the Grandstream configuration ease of use 
but the Aastras use a straight text file and are much better documented.


regards,

Drew

Ahsan Masood wrote:

Hi,

We are using following phones for large deployments using auto-provisioning.

Grandstream phones (full range)
Snom Phones (full range)
Aastra Phone (full range)
UTstarcom (Wifi phones)


~Ahsan


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Hi,

I'm using a Thomason ST2030. Had difficulties in the beginning, but
after a firmware upgrade it works fine. And autoprovisioning works good.
Most of the parameters are described in their official (marked as
confidential) admin documentation from their website. Even a centralized
phonebook is possible.

Chris...

Rod Bacon schrieb:
  

Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones,
and they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but
their provisioning sucks. 

 


What is everybody else using in large environments where individual
config is not an option?

 




Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

http://www.jasco.net.au http://www.jasco.net.au/ 


Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378



 







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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Dovid B
I liked polycom a lot.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod Bacon 
  To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:45 AM
  Subject: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning


  Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to 
understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones, and 
they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but their 
provisioning sucks. 

   

  What is everybody else using in large environments where individual config is 
not an option?

   

  

  Rod Bacon

  Technical Manager

  JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

  http://www.jasco.net.au

  Ph. 03 9432 6376

  Fax: 03 9432 6378

  

   



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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread MF
Best and easiest provisioning I´ve found imho is Snom, great web 
interfase , followed by Polycom (web interfase used to be poor and slow, 
but once you set it up, works very well)


Dovid B escribió:

I liked polycom a lot.

- Original Message -
*From:* Rod Bacon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:45 AM
*Subject:* [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I’ve used CISCO 79XX
phones, and they’re great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream
phones, but their provisioning sucks.

What is everybody else using in large environments where
individual config is not an option?



Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

http://www.jasco.net.au http://www.jasco.net.au/

Ph. 03 9432 6376

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Mike Clark

Dovid B wrote:


I liked polycom a lot.

- Original Message -
*From:* Rod Bacon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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*Subject:* [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I’ve used CISCO 79XX
phones, and they’re great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream
phones, but their provisioning sucks.

What is everybody else using in large environments where
individual config is not an option?


Aastra phones are pretty nice for central configuration.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread younss azzayani

great

i join you Thomson ST is a good choice, also you can see linksys
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread younss azzayani

really you can't make a difference between them, i like thomson
2007/2/8, Pavel Jezek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Chris, (or others), do you have any negative experience with Thomson
2030? it looks very promising!
I hesitate between thomson and linksys spa 922/942,
I'm not sure, what is better for bussines use :-\
snoms are probably also good, but functionality/price ratio is, imho,
better for thomson or linksys...
PJ


 Hi,

 I'm using a Thomason ST2030. Had difficulties in the beginning, but
 after a firmware upgrade it works fine. And autoprovisioning works good.
 Most of the parameters are described in their official (marked as
 confidential) admin documentation from their website. Even a centralized
 phonebook is possible.

 Chris...


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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Pavel Jezek
for massive deployment phone provisioning/fw updating through web 
interface is not optimal,
best way is via config files/templates periodicaly downloaded from 
central tftp/http server...

PJ



MF wrote:
Best and easiest provisioning I´ve found imho is Snom, great web 
interfase , followed by Polycom (web interfase used to be poor and 
slow, but once you set it up, works very well)



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RE: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Michelle Dupuis
We used Aastra's for a good while, but gave up on them (and switched to
Cisco).   Aastra's seem cheaper up front (hardware costs), but the time
wasted chasing firmware bugs, lack of documentation, and poor support
quickly eat up any savings.  (unless your needs are very basic).
 
MD

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I liked polycom a lot.

- Original Message - 
From: Rod Bacon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning


Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones, and
they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but their
provisioning sucks. 

 

What is everybody else using in large environments where individual config
is not an option?

 



Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

 http://www.jasco.net.au/ http://www.jasco.net.au

Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378



 



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RE: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread shadowym
I can only speak for Aastra phones.
 
Central provisioning is very easy.  All you need is one simple text file on
a TFTP, FTP, or HTTP server which all the phones point to.  To customize
individual phones you add a second text file for each phone you want
customized.  The custom text file is given the name of the phones MAC
address.  When the phone reboots it first reads the general text file and
then reads it's custom file which will overwrite any duplicate setting in
the general text file.
 
To remotely reconfigure and reboot phones you can configure them to check
for updates to these files or for updated firmware at a certain time of day.
You can also remotely reboot individual phones based on extension from the
Asterisk CLI.  Of course, you can also access an individual phones Webpage
configuration based on it's IP address.

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From: Rod Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:46 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning



Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones, and
they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but their
provisioning sucks. 

 

What is everybody else using in large environments where individual config
is not an option?

 



Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

 http://www.jasco.net.au/ http://www.jasco.net.au

Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378



 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread Bryan M. Johns



I can only speak for Aastra phones.

Central provisioning is very easy.  All you need is one simple text  
file on a TFTP, FTP, or HTTP server which all the phones point to.   
To customize individual phones you add a second text file for each  
phone you want customized.  The custom text file is given the name  
of the phones MAC address.  When the phone reboots it first reads  
the general text file and then reads it's custom file which will  
overwrite any duplicate setting in the general text file.


To remotely reconfigure and reboot phones you can configure them to  
check for updates to these files or for updated firmware at a  
certain time of day.  You can also remotely reboot individual  
phones based on extension from the Asterisk CLI.  Of course, you  
can also access an individual phones Webpage configuration based on  
it's IP address.


From: Rod Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:46 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to  
understand/implement central provisioning? I’ve used CISCO 79XX  
phones, and they’re great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream  
phones, but their provisioning sucks.




What is everybody else using in large environments where individual  
config is not an option?






Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

http://www.jasco.net.au

Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378



Polycom's central provisioning is very straight forward and very  
powerful.


There is support for all major connectivity methods (tftp, ftp, ftps,  
http, https, etc) and the configuration capability is more broad than  
any other phone we have worked with.


I hope this information is helpful.

Bryan M. Johns
Partner
Shelton | Johns Technology Group
office: 678:248:2637 x:1500
direct: 678:229:1809
iaxtel: 700:248:2637 x:1500
http://www.sheltonjohns.com


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RE: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning

2007-02-08 Thread shadowym
Have you tried them lately???
 
Firmware and documentation is light years ahead of where it was a year ago!
NONE of your issues are issues any more IMHO.

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From: Michelle Dupuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:00 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning


We used Aastra's for a good while, but gave up on them (and switched to
Cisco).   Aastra's seem cheaper up front (hardware costs), but the time
wasted chasing firmware bugs, lack of documentation, and poor support
quickly eat up any savings.  (unless your needs are very basic).
 
MD

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dovid B
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning


I liked polycom a lot.

- Original Message - 
From: Rod Bacon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: [asterisk-users] Best phone for easy provisioning


Does anyone have any recommendations for a phone that has easy to
understand/implement central provisioning? I've used CISCO 79XX phones, and
they're great (but too expensive). I like Grandstream phones, but their
provisioning sucks. 

 

What is everybody else using in large environments where individual config
is not an option?

 



Rod Bacon

Technical Manager

JASCO Consulting Pty. Ltd.

 http://www.jasco.net.au/ http://www.jasco.net.au

Ph. 03 9432 6376

Fax: 03 9432 6378



 



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