RE: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Yikes! Thanks for that disturbing info. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Joakimsen Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:23 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider? VoicePulse is the absolute worst. You can get additional channels for $25/month but that includes no usage whatsoever. That's almost double what the same capacity WITH MINUTES on a PRI port costs! Any decent provider will be able to give you an unlimited number of channels because you are paying for the usage. If you are paying per channel I would expect some sort of included usage. For example one of our PRI provider's offering boils down to about $12/channel, unlimited regional calling (more than Bell's local calling area) and some 200 minutes of LD calling extra DID cost less than a quarter each, compare that to voicepulse charging you $25/month for jack shit $11/month per DID but no additional usage. You can get 20 DID with them on one account and you get 4 calls at a time your cost is $220/month. you can open however 20 different accounts with one number on each, you pay the SAME $220/month however you get 80 calls at the same time! If you wanted the same arrangement on a single voicepulse account it would cost $620/month However don't do that, with a single account VoicePulse will charge you RANDOM amounts to your credit card, even if they say they will ONLY charge your card in $25 increments, I've asked them countless times to charge other amounts and they say NO impossible, billing system limitation, yada yada but when it comes down to it they can do and will charge your card for a random amount. And you cannot port any telephone number away from them, they have instructed their carrier (Broadview) to not allow any sort of LNP out request. Also any time there is an issue they blame you. And aulthough they sell a VoicePulse Connect! for Asterisk service where Asterisk is a LINUX PROGRAM they insist you run a WINDOWS PROGRAM on the same machine for troubleshooting, when you remind them you are running Windows they tell you to run WINE when you remind them that even Digium recommends you do not run a GUI on the same machine as Asterisk they start to ignore you. On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Thanks! I will check them out _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LST Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:20 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider? On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? Check at teliax.com. I think they allow at least 10, maybe more. voipstreet.com allows at least 20. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Please do not take this as a flame against cyberdyne-ip.com. That is not the intention. I am just wondering how businesses like this expect to stick around when they are charging rates this low. You can find a whole list of other providers that thought this model would work at: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/RIP+VOIP The fact is... if you want good quality, reliable service, and reasonable support, I think you should expect to pay a little more. I would be very cautious. Just my $0.02. Regards, David ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account. FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list. bp On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
I tried to setup an account with Cyberdyne-ip.com after filling out the form all I get when I try to log in is Invalid User name and password please go back javascript:window.history.back(); and try again If the login don't what about there service? :-\ Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email (VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254 For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email Need A Toll Free Number? http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email For new and used security items http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email BUY Coins, Silver and Gold http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email William Piper wrote: Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com http://www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account. FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list. bp On 12/15/06, *Paul Connolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/ -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Inbound (clean). Database: 0659-1, 12/16/2006 - 12/17/2006 11:54:14 PM ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Al, I just logged in with _your_ username password and it worked fine for me. I used Internet Explorer and Firefox... both worked fine. I'm guessing that you may have typed in your password wrong. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the email that you signed up from and we will forward your login info to you. Thanks, bp On 12/17/06, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to setup an account with Cyberdyne-ip.comhttp://cyberdyne-ip.com/after filling out the form all I get when I try to log in is Invalid User name and password please go back and try again If the login don't what about there service? :-\ Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Serviceshttp://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=Email (VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254 For Information on PBX Systems for SOHOhttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email Need A Toll Free Number?http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email For new and used security itemshttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email BUY Coins, Silver and Goldhttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email William Piper wrote: Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account. FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list. bp On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.comhttp://easynews.com/-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/ -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Inbound (clean). Database: 0659-1, 12/16/2006 - 12/17/2006 11:54:14 PM ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
Ok I retyped the same information in same user name them tried to log in and it worked that time. But anyways am in.. Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email (VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254 For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email Need A Toll Free Number? http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email For new and used security items http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email BUY Coins, Silver and Gold http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email William Piper wrote: Al, I just logged in with _your_ username password and it worked fine for me. I used Internet Explorer and Firefox... both worked fine. I'm guessing that you may have typed in your password wrong. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from the email that you signed up from and we will forward your login info to you. Thanks, bp On 12/17/06, *Al Bochter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to setup an account with Cyberdyne-ip.com http://cyberdyne-ip.com/ after filling out the form all I get when I try to log in is Invalid User name and password please go back and try again If the login don't what about there service? :-\ Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=Email (VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254 For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email Need A Toll Free Number? http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email For new and used security items http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email BUY Coins, Silver and Gold http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email William Piper wrote: Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com http://www.cyberdyne-ip.com/. Great rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account. FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list. bp On 12/15/06, *Paul Connolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/ -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/ -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Inbound (clean). Database: 0659-1, 12/16/2006 - 12/17/2006 11:54:14 PM ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com http://easynews.com/ -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Inbound (clean). Database: 0659-1, 12/16/2006 - 12/18/2006 12:11:15 AM ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? Check at teliax.com. I think they allow at least 10, maybe more. voipstreet.com allows at least 20. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?
VoicePulse is the absolute worst. You can get additional channels for $25/month but that includes no usage whatsoever. That's almost double what the same capacity WITH MINUTES on a PRI port costs! Any decent provider will be able to give you an unlimited number of channels because you are paying for the usage. If you are paying per channel I would expect some sort of included usage. For example one of our PRI provider's offering boils down to about $12/channel, unlimited regional calling (more than Bell's local calling area) and some 200 minutes of LD calling extra DID cost less than a quarter each, compare that to voicepulse charging you $25/month for jack shit $11/month per DID but no additional usage. You can get 20 DID with them on one account and you get 4 calls at a time your cost is $220/month. you can open however 20 different accounts with one number on each, you pay the SAME $220/month however you get 80 calls at the same time! If you wanted the same arrangement on a single voicepulse account it would cost $620/month However don't do that, with a single account VoicePulse will charge you RANDOM amounts to your credit card, even if they say they will ONLY charge your card in $25 increments, I've asked them countless times to charge other amounts and they say NO impossible, billing system limitation, yada yada but when it comes down to it they can do and will charge your card for a random amount. And you cannot port any telephone number away from them, they have instructed their carrier (Broadview) to not allow any sort of LNP out request. Also any time there is an issue they blame you. And aulthough they sell a VoicePulse Connect! for Asterisk service where Asterisk is a LINUX PROGRAM they insist you run a WINDOWS PROGRAM on the same machine for troubleshooting, when you remind them you are running Windows they tell you to run WINE when you remind them that even Digium recommends you do not run a GUI on the same machine as Asterisk they start to ignore you. On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup. We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls. VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call center. Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems. Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade package/provider? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users