RE: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-18 Thread Paul Connolly
Yikes!  Thanks for that disturbing info.

 

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Joakimsen
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VoicePulse is the absolute worst. You can get additional channels for
$25/month but that includes no usage whatsoever. That's almost double what
the same capacity WITH MINUTES on a PRI port costs!

Any decent provider will be able to give you an unlimited number of channels
because you are paying for the usage. If you are paying per channel I would
expect some sort of included usage. For example one of our PRI provider's
offering boils down to about $12/channel, unlimited regional calling (more
than Bell's local calling area) and some 200 minutes of LD calling extra
DID cost less than a quarter each, compare that to voicepulse charging you
$25/month for jack shit $11/month per DID but no additional usage. You can
get 20 DID with them on one account and you get 4 calls at a time your cost
is $220/month. you can open however 20 different accounts with one number on
each, you pay the SAME $220/month however you get 80 calls at the same time!
If you wanted the same arrangement on a single voicepulse account it would
cost $620/month 

However don't do that, with a single account VoicePulse will charge you
RANDOM amounts to your credit card, even if they say they will ONLY charge
your card in $25 increments, I've asked them countless times to charge other
amounts and they say NO impossible, billing system limitation, yada yada but
when it comes down to it they can do and will charge your card for a random
amount. 

And you cannot port any telephone number away from them, they have
instructed their carrier (Broadview) to not allow any sort of LNP out
request.

Also any time there is an issue they blame you. And aulthough they sell a
VoicePulse Connect! for Asterisk service where Asterisk is a LINUX
PROGRAM they insist you run a WINDOWS PROGRAM on the same machine for
troubleshooting, when you remind them you are running Windows they tell you
to run WINE when you remind them that even Digium recommends you do not run
a GUI on the same machine as Asterisk they start to ignore you. 




On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup.
We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level
of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP Connect only
allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support
our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP
has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone suggest a good
commercial grade package/provider?


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RE: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-18 Thread Paul Connolly
Thanks!  I will check them out

 

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On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for backup.
We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an extra level
of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP Connect only
allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support
our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP
has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone suggest a good
commercial grade package/provider?


Check at teliax.com.  I think they allow at least 10, maybe more.
voipstreet.com allows at least 20.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-18 Thread David Thomas

Please do not take this as a flame against cyberdyne-ip.com. That is
not the intention. I am just wondering how businesses like this expect
to stick around when they are charging rates this low.

You can find a whole list of other providers that thought this model
would work at:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/RIP+VOIP

The fact is... if you want good quality, reliable service, and
reasonable support, I think you should expect to pay a little more. I
would be very cautious. Just my $0.02.

Regards,
David
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-17 Thread William Piper

Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great rates, great quality, unlimited
channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account.

FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list.

bp


On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for
backup.  We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an
extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP
Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times
that to support our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it
seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone
suggest a good commercial grade package/provider?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-17 Thread Al Bochter
I tried to setup an account with Cyberdyne-ip.com after filling out the 
form all I get when I try to log in is


Invalid User name and password please go back 
javascript:window.history.back(); and try again


If the login don't what about there service? :-\

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email

(VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254

For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email

Need A Toll Free Number?
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email

For new and used security items
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email

BUY Coins, Silver and Gold
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email



William Piper wrote:

Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com http://www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great 
rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to use GUI to 
manage your account.
 
FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list.
 
bp


 
On 12/15/06, *Paul Connolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines
for backup.  We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse
Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost saving
alternative to PRI calls.  VP Connect only allows 4 simultaneous
calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to support our call
center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it seems like VP
has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone suggest a
good commercial grade package/provider?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-17 Thread William Piper

Al,

I just logged in with _your_ username  password and it worked fine for me.
I used Internet Explorer and Firefox... both worked fine.

I'm guessing that you may have typed in your password wrong.

Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the email that you
signed up from and we will forward your login info to you.

Thanks,

bp

On 12/17/06, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried to setup an account with 
Cyberdyne-ip.comhttp://cyberdyne-ip.com/after filling out the form all I get 
when I try to log in is

Invalid User name and password please go back and try again

If the login don't what about there service? :-\

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Serviceshttp://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=Email

(VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254

For Information on PBX Systems for 
SOHOhttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email

Need A Toll Free Number?http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email

For new and used security itemshttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email

BUY Coins, Silver and Goldhttp://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email



William Piper wrote:

 Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com. Great rates, great quality, unlimited
channels, and an easy to use GUI to manage your account.

FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list.

bp


On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for
 backup.  We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an
 extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP
 Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times
 that to support our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it
 seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone
 suggest a good commercial grade package/provider?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-17 Thread Al Bochter
Ok I retyped the same information in same user name them tried to log in 
and it worked that time.

But anyways am in..

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email

(VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254

For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email

Need A Toll Free Number?
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email

For new and used security items
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email

BUY Coins, Silver and Gold
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email



William Piper wrote:


Al,
 
I just logged in with _your_ username  password and it worked fine 
for me. I used Internet Explorer and Firefox... both worked fine.
 
I'm guessing that you may have typed in your password wrong.
 
Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from the email that you 
signed up from and we will forward your login info to you.
 
Thanks,
 
bp
 
On 12/17/06, *Al Bochter* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried to setup an account with Cyberdyne-ip.com
http://cyberdyne-ip.com/ after filling out the form all I get
when I try to log in is

Invalid User name and password please go back and try again

If the login don't what about there service? :-\

Best regards,

Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=Email

(VoIP PBX) 1-866-638-1254

For Information on PBX Systems for SOHO
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=PBXt=email

Need A Toll Free Number?
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?t=TFdidt=email

For new and used security items
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=storet=email

BUY Coins, Silver and Gold
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email 
http://www.bochterservices.com/?j=goldt=email



William Piper wrote:


Check out www.cyberdyne-ip.com http://www.cyberdyne-ip.com/.
Great rates, great quality, unlimited channels, and an easy to
use GUI to manage your account.
 
FYI, You may have more responses if you ask the -biz list.
 
bp


 
On 12/15/06, *Paul Connolly* [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs
lines for backup.  We are looking to add service such as
Voicepulse Connect as an extra level of redundancy and a cost
saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP Connect only allows 4
simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times that to
support our call center.  Also, in looking through the
archives, it seems like VP has had their share of outages and
problems.  Can anyone suggest a good commercial grade
package/provider?


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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-15 Thread LST

On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for
backup.  We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an
extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP
Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times
that to support our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it
seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone
suggest a good commercial grade package/provider?



Check at teliax.com.  I think they allow at least 10, maybe more.
voipstreet.com allows at least 20.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Good Commercial Grade Service Provider?

2006-12-15 Thread Andrew Joakimsen

VoicePulse is the absolute worst. You can get additional channels for
$25/month but that includes no usage whatsoever. That's almost double what
the same capacity WITH MINUTES on a PRI port costs!

Any decent provider will be able to give you an unlimited number of channels
because you are paying for the usage. If you are paying per channel I would
expect some sort of included usage. For example one of our PRI provider's
offering boils down to about $12/channel, unlimited regional calling (more
than Bell's local calling area) and some 200 minutes of LD calling extra
DID cost less than a quarter each, compare that to voicepulse charging you
$25/month for jack shit $11/month per DID but no additional usage. You can
get 20 DID with them on one account and you get 4 calls at a time your cost
is $220/month. you can open however 20 different accounts with one number on
each, you pay the SAME $220/month however you get 80 calls at the same time!
If you wanted the same arrangement on a single voicepulse account it would
cost $620/month

However don't do that, with a single account VoicePulse will charge you
RANDOM amounts to your credit card, even if they say they will ONLY charge
your card in $25 increments, I've asked them countless times to charge other
amounts and they say NO impossible, billing system limitation, yada yada but
when it comes down to it they can do and will charge your card for a random
amount.

And you cannot port any telephone number away from them, they have
instructed their carrier (Broadview) to not allow any sort of LNP out
request.

Also any time there is an issue they blame you. And aulthough they sell a
VoicePulse Connect! for Asterisk service where Asterisk is a LINUX
PROGRAM they insist you run a WINDOWS PROGRAM on the same machine for
troubleshooting, when you remind them you are running Windows they tell you
to run WINE when you remind them that even Digium recommends you do not run
a GUI on the same machine as Asterisk they start to ignore you.



On 12/15/06, Paul Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We currently have an Asterisk system with a PRI and 6 POTs lines for
backup.  We are looking to add service such as Voicepulse Connect as an
extra level of redundancy and a cost saving alternative to PRI calls.  VP
Connect only allows 4 simultaneous calls; we are looking for 4 to 5 times
that to support our call center.  Also, in looking through the archives, it
seems like VP has had their share of outages and problems.  Can anyone
suggest a good commercial grade package/provider?

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