Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-27 Thread Jason Parker
On 02/26/2012 06:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote:
 On 25-02-12 19:47, Jason Parker wrote:
 yum and rpm do not support downgrades.
 
 Incorrect. There is yum downgrade. See man yum.
 

yum downgrade is extremely broken.  It fails, often, potentially leaving a
system in an unrecoverable state.  That is not to mention how poorly conceived
the concept is.  Consider what would happen if a package upgraded some resource
to a non-backwards-compatible version.

It is completely unsupported on the Digium repositories.  Please don't try it -
I will not help fix it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 02/27/2012 09:05 AM, Jason Parker wrote:

On 02/26/2012 06:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote:

On 25-02-12 19:47, Jason Parker wrote:

yum and rpm do not support downgrades.


Incorrect. There is yum downgrade. See man yum.



yum downgrade is extremely broken.  It fails, often, potentially leaving a
system in an unrecoverable state.  That is not to mention how poorly conceived
the concept is.  Consider what would happen if a package upgraded some resource
to a non-backwards-compatible version.

It is completely unsupported on the Digium repositories.  Please don't try it -
I will not help fix it.


This is generally true of *all* software packages; the 
developers/maintainers provide mechanisms for upgrading, but not 
downgrading. simple downgrades should be possible, but the packages 
aren't marked in any way to indicate whether that could even be done.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-27 Thread Ast Coder
Downgrade actually worked fine in this instance - from 1.8.9.2 to 1.8.9.1
and I concluded it wasn't Asterisk that was the issue. Thanks Patrick.

It would be great to keep this feature stable. As it helps in case of
regressions, etc...



On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.comwrote:

 On 02/27/2012 09:05 AM, Jason Parker wrote:

 On 02/26/2012 06:22 PM, Patrick Lists wrote:

 On 25-02-12 19:47, Jason Parker wrote:

 yum and rpm do not support downgrades.


 Incorrect. There is yum downgrade. See man yum.


 yum downgrade is extremely broken.  It fails, often, potentially leaving a
 system in an unrecoverable state.  That is not to mention how poorly
 conceived
 the concept is.  Consider what would happen if a package upgraded some
 resource
 to a non-backwards-compatible version.

 It is completely unsupported on the Digium repositories.  Please don't
 try it -
 I will not help fix it.


 This is generally true of *all* software packages; the
 developers/maintainers provide mechanisms for upgrading, but not
 downgrading. simple downgrades should be possible, but the packages
 aren't marked in any way to indicate whether that could even be done.

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 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-26 Thread Patrick Lists

On 25-02-12 19:47, Jason Parker wrote:

yum and rpm do not support downgrades.


Incorrect. There is yum downgrade. See man yum.

Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-25 Thread Ast Coder
Thanks Jason.

One more question: Is there anyway to go back on an Asterisk version when
using the repository? For example, Asterisk 1.8.9.2 is available now. But I
want to use 1.8.9.1. Can I downgrade somehow? I want to test NAT bug issue.

Thanks

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jason Parker jpar...@digium.com wrote:

 On 02/23/2012 10:09 AM, Ast Coder wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have followed instruction
  on
 https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Packages#AsteriskPackages-Prerequisitesto
  add Digium Asterisk repositories but doing a, yum search asterisk only
 shows
  me Asterisk 1.4, 1.6, and 1.8. There is no Asterisk 10 and yum install
  asterisk10 fails. Am I missing something? or Asterisk 10 is just no
 available
  in binary?
 
  Thanks,
 

 There are now repositories for each major version of Asterisk, which have
 to be
 explicitly enabled to use them.

 `yum update` to get to the latest of everything, then do `yum update
 --enablerepo=asterisk-10`.  Asterisk 10 will be installed, and that
 repository
 will be enabled permanently.  I'll add that information to the wiki
 shortly.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-25 Thread Jason Parker
yum and rpm do not support downgrades.  You can try using `yum shell` to
uninstall one version and install another version in one transaction, but you'll
have to go it alone.

On 02/25/2012 11:49 AM, Ast Coder wrote:
 Thanks Jason.
 
 One more question: Is there anyway to go back on an Asterisk version when 
 using
 the repository? For example, Asterisk 1.8.9.2 is available now. But I want to
 use 1.8.9.1. Can I downgrade somehow? I want to test NAT bug issue.
 
 Thanks
 
 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Jason Parker jpar...@digium.com
 mailto:jpar...@digium.com wrote:
 
 On 02/23/2012 10:09 AM, Ast Coder wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have followed instruction
  on
 
 https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Packages#AsteriskPackages-Prerequisites
 to
  add Digium Asterisk repositories but doing a, yum search asterisk 
 only shows
  me Asterisk 1.4, 1.6, and 1.8. There is no Asterisk 10 and yum install
  asterisk10 fails. Am I missing something? or Asterisk 10 is just no 
 available
  in binary?
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 There are now repositories for each major version of Asterisk, which have 
 to be
 explicitly enabled to use them.
 
 `yum update` to get to the latest of everything, then do `yum update
 --enablerepo=asterisk-10`.  Asterisk 10 will be installed, and that 
 repository
 will be enabled permanently.  I'll add that information to the wiki 
 shortly.
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Is Asterisk 10 available in Digium Repository? I doesn't show up

2012-02-23 Thread Jason Parker
On 02/23/2012 10:09 AM, Ast Coder wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have followed instruction
 on 
 https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Packages#AsteriskPackages-Prerequisites
  to
 add Digium Asterisk repositories but doing a, yum search asterisk only shows
 me Asterisk 1.4, 1.6, and 1.8. There is no Asterisk 10 and yum install
 asterisk10 fails. Am I missing something? or Asterisk 10 is just no available
 in binary?
 
 Thanks,
 

There are now repositories for each major version of Asterisk, which have to be
explicitly enabled to use them.

`yum update` to get to the latest of everything, then do `yum update
--enablerepo=asterisk-10`.  Asterisk 10 will be installed, and that repository
will be enabled permanently.  I'll add that information to the wiki shortly.

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