Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls
There is also an Ethernet/SIP overhead speaker. Voipsupply sells it. On 3/2/07, Stefano Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite surprising, yes! :-) I am from north east Italy, now I live in Verona (Romeo and Juliet's city :). I cannot do it connecting amp to the PBX. I have quite a long distance to cover and a network is already there. My phones are have a quite smart processor so we may probably run the ices2 that you are suggesting or something similar. I will check the links that you sent me. Thanks, Stefano Stefano Totaro, Off topic. I just noticed your name and was a little surprised!? ;-) Are you in Italy / Sicily? Anyways, you can achieve overhead paging through a sound card hooked to an Amp and speakers from your PBX. I have yet to do it but have read about it. I think this may be the better solution for you unless you are set on doing it over IP. Check here for several options http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Paging+and+Intercom I am pretty sure if you use a ring group or meetme, there is no way around each phone having it's own stream. Interestingly, 3Com systems do conferencing and paging through multicast which is a nice idea but in practice can be a real pain to configure network components to work properly (especially if you do not control the network or you are trying to implement paging between remote offices). I have spent hours on this exact problem in the past. If it were me, I would probably not want all that traffic on the PBX unless that is all that it will be doing or if you go the sound card route. I would use ices2 and let everyone stream from a different server than the PBX. Since you are using phones, I do not know that ices2 would work for you, something must initiate the call. I would probably have a second Asterisk box to just handle the paging, setup an extension the dialplan of the main PBX to dial the paging machine via SIP (and possibly include Authenticate) that would drop the call into something like this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+page Thanks, Steve Totaro stefano.totaro at transport.alstom.com wrote: Hello Steve, thanks for your anwer. Yes, you are right we want to do VoIP telephone system capable also of public address (overhead paging) service. So synchronization is a key issue if we want to avoid unpleasant effects. We are designing our phones and they will have also onboard amplifiers. What I am trying to understand is whether we may use the phone system also for this service or if it is better to go for a specific streaming technology (Ices2 is a good suggestion thanks). What happen if I put all the phones in a ring? Do they join the same multicast stream or a single stream for each phone will be created? Thanks again. Stefano Inactive hide details for Steve Totaro stevetotaro at hotmail.comSteve Totaro stevetotaro at hotmail.com *Steve Totaro stevetotaro at hotmail.com* Inviato da: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com Phone: 01/03/2007 18.33 Per favore, rispondere a Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Per: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users at lists.digium.com Cc: (ccr: Stefano TOTARO/ITVRN01/Transport/ALSTOM) Oggetto: Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls stefano.totaro at transport.alstom.com wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano I suppose you could do that although, I am unclear on the auto-answering softphone and the loudspeaker thing. Is this just for overhead paging or something? You could put all the phones in a ring group with ringall and use the computer's sound card to connect to an amplified speaker setup. You could also look at ices2 to stream audio or some other streaming technology. Thanks, Steve Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com
Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls
Hello Steve, thanks for your anwer. Yes, you are right we want to do VoIP telephone system capable also of public address (overhead paging) service. So synchronization is a key issue if we want to avoid unpleasant effects. We are designing our phones and they will have also onboard amplifiers. What I am trying to understand is whether we may use the phone system also for this service or if it is better to go for a specific streaming technology (Ices2 is a good suggestion thanks). What happen if I put all the phones in a ring? Do they join the same multicast stream or a single stream for each phone will be created? Thanks again. Stefano Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Inviato da: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: (ccr: Stefano TOTARO/ITVRN01/Transport/ALSTOM) .digium.com Oggetto: Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls Phone: 01/03/2007 18.33 Per favore, rispondere a Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano I suppose you could do that although, I am unclear on the auto-answering softphone and the loudspeaker thing. Is this just for overhead paging or something? You could put all the phones in a ring group with ringall and use the computer's sound card to connect to an amplified speaker setup. You could also look at ices2 to stream audio or some other streaming technology. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users :.___ CONFIDENZIALE: Questo messaggio e gli eventuali allegati sono confidenziali e riservati. Se vi è stato recapitato per errore e non siete fra i destinatari elencati, siete pregati di darne immediatamente avviso al mittente. Le informazioni contenute non devono essere mostrate ad altri, né utilizzate, memorizzate o copiate in qualsiasi forma. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Hi Zoa, yes the phone are design by ourselves and they will be application specific. Thanks, Stefano Zoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato da: Per: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] asterisk-users@lists.digium.com .digium.com Cc: (ccr: Stefano TOTARO/ITVRN01/Transport/ALSTOM) Oggetto: Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls Phone: 01/03/2007 18.14 Per favore, rispondere a Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion I wouldn't do that with softphones, unless the softphones are designed to do this. The delay will vary depending on the audio card, OS, and drivers. (And the phones might not all answer at the same time, but if you use music on hold or so to play that should not be a problem). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano :. CONFIDENZIALE: Questo messaggio e gli eventuali allegati sono confidenziali e riservati. Se vi è stato recapitato per errore e non siete fra i destinatari elencati, siete pregati di darne immediatamente avviso al mittente. Le informazioni contenute non devono essere mostrate ad altri, né utilizzate, memorizzate o copiate in qualsiasi forma. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls
Stefano Totaro, Off topic. I just noticed your name and was a little surprised!? ;-) Are you in Italy / Sicily? Anyways, you can achieve overhead paging through a sound card hooked to an Amp and speakers from your PBX. I have yet to do it but have read about it. I think this may be the better solution for you unless you are set on doing it over IP. Check here for several options http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Paging+and+Intercom I am pretty sure if you use a ring group or meetme, there is no way around each phone having it's own stream. Interestingly, 3Com systems do conferencing and paging through multicast which is a nice idea but in practice can be a real pain to configure network components to work properly (especially if you do not control the network or you are trying to implement paging between remote offices). I have spent hours on this exact problem in the past. If it were me, I would probably not want all that traffic on the PBX unless that is all that it will be doing or if you go the sound card route. I would use ices2 and let everyone stream from a different server than the PBX. Since you are using phones, I do not know that ices2 would work for you, something must initiate the call. I would probably have a second Asterisk box to just handle the paging, setup an extension the dialplan of the main PBX to dial the paging machine via SIP (and possibly include Authenticate) that would drop the call into something like this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+page Thanks, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Steve, thanks for your anwer. Yes, you are right we want to do VoIP telephone system capable also of public address (overhead paging) service. So synchronization is a key issue if we want to avoid unpleasant effects. We are designing our phones and they will have also onboard amplifiers. What I am trying to understand is whether we may use the phone system also for this service or if it is better to go for a specific streaming technology (Ices2 is a good suggestion thanks). What happen if I put all the phones in a ring? Do they join the same multicast stream or a single stream for each phone will be created? Thanks again. Stefano Inactive hide details for Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Inviato da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 01/03/2007 18.33 Per favore, rispondere a Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Per: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Cc: (ccr: Stefano TOTARO/ITVRN01/Transport/ALSTOM) Oggetto: Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano I suppose you could do that although, I am unclear on the auto-answering softphone and the loudspeaker thing. Is this just for overhead paging or something? You could put all the phones in a ring group with ringall and use the computer's sound card to connect to an amplified speaker setup. You could also look at ices2 to stream audio or some other streaming technology. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users :.___ CONFIDENZIALE: Questo messaggio e gli eventuali allegati sono confidenziali e riservati. Se vi è stato recapitato per errore e non siete fra i destinatari elencati, siete pregati di darne immediatamente avviso al mittente. Le informazioni contenute non devono essere mostrate ad altri, né utilizzate, memorizzate o copiate in qualsiasi forma. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided
Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls
I wouldn't do that with softphones, unless the softphones are designed to do this. The delay will vary depending on the audio card, OS, and drivers. (And the phones might not all answer at the same time, but if you use music on hold or so to play that should not be a problem). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano :. CONFIDENZIALE: Questo messaggio e gli eventuali allegati sono confidenziali e riservati. Se vi è stato recapitato per errore e non siete fra i destinatari elencati, siete pregati di darne immediatamente avviso al mittente. Le informazioni contenute non devono essere mostrate ad altri, né utilizzate, memorizzate o copiate in qualsiasi forma. CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Multiple simultaneous calls
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I am a novice of Asterisk and I need some experts help to understand what I can get out of it. I need to make multiple calls (let say 50) at once to autoanswering softphones on a LAN and send all of them the same message that they will repeat with loudspeakers in the same environment. I am a little concerned about synchronization of the phones and moreover it is not much clear to me if I have to open 50 connections and send 50 times the same packets or if can use in some way the multicast. Is there anybody that may give me some idea. Thanks in advance, Stefano I suppose you could do that although, I am unclear on the auto-answering softphone and the loudspeaker thing. Is this just for overhead paging or something? You could put all the phones in a ring group with ringall and use the computer's sound card to connect to an amplified speaker setup. You could also look at ices2 to stream audio or some other streaming technology. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
