Re: [asterisk-users] Raw asterisk x FreePbx .conf
my best offer to you is to read more about the dial plan to understand what happens.. or try to understand what does freepbx do and what does it write and understand the applications.. Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:53:45 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Raw asterisk x FreePbx .conf All my experience on asterisk was gained through configuring Trixbox, so a ready to go Asterisk system. Now i´m trying to install a server from scratch, so this question arose. When installing freepbx, the .conf files are written, when installing asterisk nothing is written unless I run the Make Samples. Basic features like parking calls, transfering calls, contexts, and so on have to be code written by hand, line by line, if I don´t have the freepbx or the make samples to write it for me?What exactly does the make samples command writes to asterisk? Thanks, Felipe _ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Doug wrote: At 19:35 8/17/2007, Lee Jenkins wrote: Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Bill, If you like working from Windows, you can also check out DialplanPro. I've been using it for our few (so far) clients and our personal phone system. http://www.datatrakpos.com/pos/datatalk/Default.aspx I wrote it to be more of a swiss army knife for Asterisk. I like to use the GUI widgets and visual menu builder to build the basic dialplan menus then use the editor (basic syntax highlighting, parameter suggestions, etc) to write custom scripts using either traditional flat asterisk script or AEL2 and INCLUDE them in the final project scripts which can be automatically uploaded to the server. I also use it to parse my AEL2 scripts remotely from my windows computer using a hook into the aelparse executable written by murph. Its still beta, but mostly because it doesn't yet have all the features I want to eventually include in it. Also, its commercial software or will be someday. -- Warm Regards, Lee Keeewwwl...Delphi! However, all I can get it to do is generate errors: == Application... Start Date : 08/17/2007 20:20:27 Name/Description: astclient.exe Version Number : 0.9.6.75 Exception... Date : 08/17/2007 20:22:40 Address: 00409A5A Module : astclient.exe Type : EConvertError Message: '' is not a valid integer value. Doug, We get about 120 downloads of that product a day and this is the first time I've seen this error so I would be very interested in tracking it down as no one has reported it. It looks like you're trying to build your project but there is some data its looking for during build that is not there (trying to cast a string to an integer, but the string is empty it looks like). Probably just a setting that you did not set. Most settings (as you would think) that are critical to the application have mandatory values and I'd love to find out which one this is to that it can be required as well. Would you mind dropping me a line off list or posting the error to our message board? http://www.datatrakpos.com/community/ (Main Message Board) http://www.datatrakpos.com/community/Default.aspx?g=topicsf=20 (DialplanPro Forum on the board) Yes, we are a Delphi shop. Also Lazarus/Freepascal, C#/.Net, etc. -- Warm Regards, Lee ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Bill Andersen wrote:
OK, I understand that. But if I gotta learn how to support
myself to do advanced features, why pay them at all? I'll
just become my own expert :()
That's how I started...
Sit-down and work out what features you want - and do you want them
supported in the phones or in the system - eg. features like divert or do
not disturb - many phones have this feature, but they need to be turned on
for them to work, or you can implement them in the PBX itself. Similarly
for speed dialling, etc.
I took the approach that if I could make the PBX work with the dumbest of
phones then it'd work for any phone regardless of it's features, so
implemented a whole raft of star codes in the PBX itself.
So to implement do not disturb, I have:
; *490: *491:
; Clear/Set Do Not Disturb
exten = *490,1,Answer()
exten = *490,n,Macro(clearStarCode,doNotDisturb)
exten = *491,1,Answer()
exten = *491,n,Set(dndCode=${EXTEN:3})
exten = *491,n,Set(DB(${CALLERID(num)}/doNotDisturb)=${dndCode})
exten = *491,n,Macro(starAck)
but then you need to handle it in the bit that handles calls internally, so
mine looks like:
; Check for Do Not Disturb
exten = s,n,Set(DND=${DB(${MACRO_EXTEN}/doNotDisturb)})
exten = s,n,GotoIf(${DND}?:doneDoNotDisturb)
exten = s,n,Wait(90)
exten = s,n,Hangup()
exten = s,n(doneDoNotDisturb),Noop(Carrying on after DO NOT DISTURB Check)
and so on ...
There are other ways to do this, and other better/different? macros to
handle dialling and so on, or you might want to do it all in AGI, AEL,
or...
My systems are completely done in dialplan as I've found it adequate for
my needs and this includes setting up IAX trunks between offices which
work out the correct site caller id without using DUNDi
I just googled searched through the books and voip-wiki for dialplan
examples and built it up from there.
Keep It Simple is my motto and I'm not putting a MySQL database on a
diskless system when it's not needed... Over complexity for the sake of
nerdyness really peeves me! (But it could be argued that that's because I
was brought up on trying to squeeze programs into 256 byte of RAM too many
years ago ;-)
Enjoy!
Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Bill, If you like working from Windows, you can also check out DialplanPro. I've been using it for our few (so far) clients and our personal phone system. http://www.datatrakpos.com/pos/datatalk/Default.aspx I wrote it to be more of a swiss army knife for Asterisk. I like to use the GUI widgets and visual menu builder to build the basic dialplan menus then use the editor (basic syntax highlighting, parameter suggestions, etc) to write custom scripts using either traditional flat asterisk script or AEL2 and INCLUDE them in the final project scripts which can be automatically uploaded to the server. I also use it to parse my AEL2 scripts remotely from my windows computer using a hook into the aelparse executable written by murph. Its still beta, but mostly because it doesn't yet have all the features I want to eventually include in it. Also, its commercial software or will be someday. -- Warm Regards, Lee ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
At 19:35 8/17/2007, Lee Jenkins wrote: Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Bill, If you like working from Windows, you can also check out DialplanPro. I've been using it for our few (so far) clients and our personal phone system. http://www.datatrakpos.com/pos/datatalk/Default.aspx I wrote it to be more of a swiss army knife for Asterisk. I like to use the GUI widgets and visual menu builder to build the basic dialplan menus then use the editor (basic syntax highlighting, parameter suggestions, etc) to write custom scripts using either traditional flat asterisk script or AEL2 and INCLUDE them in the final project scripts which can be automatically uploaded to the server. I also use it to parse my AEL2 scripts remotely from my windows computer using a hook into the aelparse executable written by murph. Its still beta, but mostly because it doesn't yet have all the features I want to eventually include in it. Also, its commercial software or will be someday. -- Warm Regards, Lee Keeewwwl...Delphi! However, all I can get it to do is generate errors: == Application... Start Date : 08/17/2007 20:20:27 Name/Description: astclient.exe Version Number : 0.9.6.75 Exception... Date : 08/17/2007 20:22:40 Address: 00409A5A Module : astclient.exe Type : EConvertError Message: '' is not a valid integer value. Active Controls... Form Class : TfrmOutput Form Text: Dialplan Output Control Class: TCheckBox Control Text : Verbose Commenting Computer... Name: Total Memory: 990 Mb Free Memory : 318 Mb Total Disk : 5.85 Gb Free Disk : 5.67 Gb Operating System... Type: Microsoft Windows 2000 Build # : 2195 Language: English (United States) == ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
A. BC are pre-packaged and are useful for some things, but if you deviate too much, they aren't very helpful. As a matter of fact, if you modify a text file in AsteriskNow in one of the sections that it uses, it causes the gui to freak out and it won't parse right. Plain old asterisk is a good way to learn how it really works. Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Thanks Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. I started with (a). But since you have a dial-plan that does most of what you want, why not extract the dialplan (extensions.conf, etc.) and start with that? And if the GUI doesn't let you get access to the box in the 'raw' then you can always take the disk out... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Andersen wrote: [snip] Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Hi Bill. My first deployment was TrixBox. The two I am currently working on are Plain Old Asterisk. Keep in mind that I'm an old Linux jock, and a 30-year veteran of programming, so the only thing I had to learn was Asterisk. If you pick that route, you'll need to learn Linux (or BSD, or whatever you're going to us as an OS) as well as Asterisk. As far as tutorials, just pick up a copy of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony. Most of the howto for compilation is there, albeit somewhat dated until the newer version of the book hits the press. I will say that I don't ever intend on using a GUI again. I'm so used to text files for configuration of everything else I use Linux for that the manual configuration seems so much more natural. That's my two cents. Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGxJ4CCFu3bIiwtTARAvMzAJ4xIgA+PAzcS2Jrx5EUzyKo6JFqswCgmith tr93sIPre5AjI1EMacaLtas= =mW67 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Bill Andersen wrote: I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Thanks Bill And the answer is, A. B C will give you pretty much the same scenario you have now. The big benefit of learning plain old Asterisk is definitely the ability to do whatever you want or need. You will find that once you know Asterisk well, you can use a pre-packaged solution for what it does well, and usually be able to do custom dialplan work in conjunction and get the best of both worlds. Mike Clark ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Asterisk: The Future of Telephony aka the Starfish Book (becuase of the starfish on the cover) is a great place to start... O'Reilly and the authors have been kind enough to make the entire book freely available online: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 Have fun... And welcome to Asterisk!! :-) -Larry On 8/16/07, Barry L. Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Andersen wrote: [snip] Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Hi Bill. My first deployment was TrixBox. The two I am currently working on are Plain Old Asterisk. Keep in mind that I'm an old Linux jock, and a 30-year veteran of programming, so the only thing I had to learn was Asterisk. If you pick that route, you'll need to learn Linux (or BSD, or whatever you're going to us as an OS) as well as Asterisk. As far as tutorials, just pick up a copy of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony. Most of the howto for compilation is there, albeit somewhat dated until the newer version of the book hits the press. I will say that I don't ever intend on using a GUI again. I'm so used to text files for configuration of everything else I use Linux for that the manual configuration seems so much more natural. That's my two cents. Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGxJ4CCFu3bIiwtTARAvMzAJ4xIgA+PAzcS2Jrx5EUzyKo6JFqswCgmith tr93sIPre5AjI1EMacaLtas= =mW67 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Barry L. Kline wrote: My first deployment was TrixBox. The two I am currently working on are Plain Old Asterisk. Keep in mind that I'm an old Linux jock, and a 30-year veteran of programming, so the only thing I had to learn was Asterisk. If you pick that route, you'll need to learn Linux (or BSD, or whatever you're going to us as an OS) as well as Asterisk. Well, I'm no Linux guru by any means, but I've been working with it for 7-8 years. I'm not an RPM guy. I always compile from source. Apache, MySQL, qmail, etc. I configure manually and don't even have KDE or Gnome on my boxes. I compiled asterisk about 5 years ago and have to admit, without any telephone background, I had a hard time getting into it. Now, after administering a commercial asterisk box that was already set up, I at least understand the terminology and see how to get what I want - asterisk is pretty cool. As far as tutorials, just pick up a copy of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony. Most of the howto for compilation is there, albeit somewhat dated until the newer version of the book hits the press. Thanks. I'll get my hands on a copy. I will say that I don't ever intend on using a GUI again. I'm so used to text files for configuration of everything else I use Linux for that the manual configuration seems so much more natural. Well, that's good news to me. I'd rather edit config files than use a GUI anyway. That way I understand what is going on and if things break, that understanding is what helps me figure out what is wrong. Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Gordon Henderson wrote: I started with (a). But since you have a dial-plan that does most of what you want, why not extract the dialplan (extensions.conf, etc.) and start with that? I may be showing my ignorance here, but from what I 'understand', there are two ways to save config information. Either in the text files (extensions.conf, sip.conf, etc) OR in a database (MySQL). My particular commercial asterisk stores their config in a DB. I've looked a the extensions.conf and there isn't anything having to do with my extensions in that file. It looks stock. That being said, I guess I could get onto the mysql command line and look around, but I think I would rather set up a 'pure' asterisk box and get used to editing the files manually - so I understand them. OR, is the DB way to go? That's why I'm asking for opinions! Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I found asterisk built from source with freePBX added was the best solution for us. I would have stayed with pure asterisk, but I have a staff of people that do not know the ins and outs of the config files. freePBX gives them a very easy way to add new phones and extensions and the use of the custom config files allows me to add my own configs. -- -- Steven http://www.glimasoutheast.org Bill Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Thanks Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Bill Andersen wrote: Gordon Henderson wrote: I started with (a). But since you have a dial-plan that does most of what you want, why not extract the dialplan (extensions.conf, etc.) and start with that? I may be showing my ignorance here, but from what I 'understand', there are two ways to save config information. Either in the text files (extensions.conf, sip.conf, etc) OR in a database (MySQL). My particular commercial asterisk stores their config in a DB. I've looked a the extensions.conf and there isn't anything having to do with my extensions in that file. It looks stock. That being said, I guess I could get onto the mysql command line and look around, but I think I would rather set up a 'pure' asterisk box and get used to editing the files manually - so I understand them. OR, is the DB way to go? That's why I'm asking for opinions! I've not used the DB/realtime stuff at all, but the bulk of what I do is actually a canned asterisk inna box with a GUI... :) I got the starfish book which you can now get online, I also got the O'Reilly Switching To VoIP which was useful too, (it has more examples) had a look at what came with asterisk, spent a week on a boat in weather too rough to dive, digested the books and and got on with it... I split the config files up to make them managable, and use #include to bring in the smaller parts. I would suggest that if your installation is fairly well defined and mostly static, you keep it as simple as possible, so don't use MySQL but do split config files up and use lots of comments... Out of curiosity, what's the GUI you are currently using and what do you feel are it's limitations? Cheers, Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I was trying to come up with a definitive answer for your question. I use Trixbox/FreePBX but thats because I have a several systems that I maintain. I couldn't remember all the clients configuration files and in some respects the GUI is self documenting. I also share the admin of these systems so if I change something my tech can see it also. So my conclusion is that if you are looking after more than one system or administration is being done by other people besides you then go with Trixbox (I challenge you to find a feature or function that it doesn't have ) If you want to get under the hood and it doesn't matter that no-one else will be able to figure out how it works (in production) then Asterisk (Raw) is a lot of fun and will give you a sense of achievement when you get it up and running Good luck ...may the force be with you -- Henry L. Coleman. Gordon Henderson On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Bill Andersen wrote: Gordon Henderson wrote: I started with (a). But since you have a dial-plan that does most of what you want, why not extract the dialplan (extensions.conf, etc.) and start with that? I may be showing my ignorance here, but from what I 'understand', there are two ways to save config information. Either in the text files (extensions.conf, sip.conf, etc) OR in a database (MySQL). My particular commercial asterisk stores their config in a DB. I've looked a the extensions.conf and there isn't anything having to do with my extensions in that file. It looks stock. That being said, I guess I could get onto the mysql command line and look around, but I think I would rather set up a 'pure' asterisk box and get used to editing the files manually - so I understand them. OR, is the DB way to go? That's why I'm asking for opinions! I've not used the DB/realtime stuff at all, but the bulk of what I do is actually a canned asterisk inna box with a GUI... :) I got the starfish book which you can now get online, I also got the O'Reilly Switching To VoIP which was useful too, (it has more examples) had a look at what came with asterisk, spent a week on a boat in weather too rough to dive, digested the books and and got on with it... I split the config files up to make them managable, and use #include to bring in the smaller parts. I would suggest that if your installation is fairly well defined and mostly static, you keep it as simple as possible, so don't use MySQL but do split config files up and use lots of comments... Out of curiosity, what's the GUI you are currently using and what do you feel are it's limitations? Cheers, Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Gordon Henderson wrote: Out of curiosity, what's the GUI you are currently using and what do you feel are it's limitations? It is a commercial product called Evolution PBX by Intuitive Voice Technology (IVT). I don't want to imply I'm unhappy with it, because I like it better than any of the commercial products I've tried. I first bought a Fonality system and within 5 months converted it over to Evolution because IVT had partnered with a company to provide a HUD type product called IView. HUD won't let me see presence on remote servers where IView will. I've got 3 offices and they can all see who is on the phone at each office using IView. HOWEVER, IVT uses a DB (realtime?) for configuration so I can't edit the dialplan to do some more advanced stuff. Even if I just want to play around. Because the second I do anything out of the ordinary, they play the old well, we don't support that, so we have to charge you an extra fee (over the annual fee) to help you when you have problems. OK, I understand that. But if I gotta learn how to support myself to do advanced features, why pay them at all? I'll just become my own expert :() Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Bill Andersen wrote: Gordon Henderson wrote: Out of curiosity, what's the GUI you are currently using and what do you feel are it's limitations? It is a commercial product called Evolution PBX by Intuitive Voice Technology (IVT). I don't want to imply I'm unhappy with it, because I like it better than any of the commercial products I've tried. I first bought a Fonality system and within 5 months converted it over to Evolution because IVT had partnered with a company to provide a HUD type product called IView. HUD won't let me see presence on remote servers where IView will. I've got 3 offices and they can all see who is on the phone at each office using IView. HOWEVER, IVT uses a DB (realtime?) for configuration so I can't edit the dialplan to do some more advanced stuff. Even if I just want to play around. Because the second I do anything out of the ordinary, they play the old well, we don't support that, so we have to charge you an extra fee (over the annual fee) to help you when you have problems. OK, I understand that. But if I gotta learn how to support myself to do advanced features, why pay them at all? I'll just become my own expert :() Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users The We don't support that[tm] is actually an anti-pain mechanism. Anthony ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Thursday 16 August 2007 2:57:06 pm Barry L. Kline wrote: As far as tutorials, just pick up a copy of Asterisk: The Future of Telephony. Most of the howto for compilation is there, albeit somewhat dated until the newer version of the book hits the press. I'd wait a couple of weeks, the 2nd edition just went to print, so wait for it. I know two of the three authors personally, and know all the hard work that went into bringing the 2nd edition up to include Asterisk 1.4. :-) -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk!
Bill, Please take a look at Thirdlane PBX Manager. It gives you both management and end-user GUI, and stores data in text configuration files. You can also extend it using what we call Scripts (basically GUI integrated self-documented Asterisk Macros), this way you can still use your Asterisk dialplan coding skills when required and hardly ever need the RAW mode. Best regards, Alex Alex Epshteyn Third Lane Technologies, LLC http://www.thirdlane.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Andersen Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:38 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] RAW asterisk! I'm a network admin that maintains 3 commercial Asterisk servers for my employer. I am wanting to move away from the pre-packaged commercial PBXs to a more pure asterisk setup. The systems I have utilize a nice web GUI to make changes, but it really limits what I can do beyond what they have programmed into their GUI. Would I be better off starting with: a) Plain old asterisk from asterisk.org? (tutorial suggestions?) b) AsteriskNow c) Trixbox (not Pro) d) other suggestions. Thanks Bill ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
