Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Benny Amorsen schrieb: Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: Again, the emphasis on the dCAP exam is real-world knowledge of how to build a simple small-business PBX with Asterisk. If you've used Asterisk in a professional capacity, it should be very straightforward to pass the practical portion of the exam. I believe I can reveal this much without causing any problems for Digium: Be sure you have tried to configure a Polycom phone and an analog DAHDI card. Wasting 30 minutes on those two things makes passing the exam slightly more challenging... (whose only experience with analog DAHDI so far has been that dCAP exam) That sounds alarming ... how to test without hardware? Used to PRI thanks for the hint klaus ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Benny Amorsen schrieb: Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: In a nutshell, you can pass the test without having any experience on Polycom IP phones and Digium cards, as long as you know how to use Asterisk itself. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that it is in the test -- if you can't connect SOME kind of phone to Asterisk, you don't deserve certification. They have to pick one brand because it's infeasible to bring 5 different phones for each test taker. What about Bring your own favorite phone? :-) IMHO the Polycoms are a bad choice for the test because they reboot for every modification of the SIP account parameters so unless you have previous experience with the Polycoms you will loose a lot of time. BTW: The default username/password is Polycom/456. The Address field should NOT contain an IP address. Yeah, that's a bit hard to guess. As far as the analog card and DAHDI is concerned: I just skipped this part and didn't even compile DAHDI. Go for the bonus credit: AFAICR it was something about DND and call forwarding. Don't waste your time on ODBC or MySQL or anything that I would normally do. Use AstDB. Make sure you are familiar with either vim or kate/kwrite. Start compiling, and meanwhile read the rest of the test. Don't try to remove the default stuff from the sample config files. Quick dirty is the motto. BTW: The supervisor said he had never seen anybody else use AEL before. :-) Philipp Kempgen -- AMOOMA GmbH - Bachstr. 126 - 56566 Neuwied - http://www.amooma.de Geschäftsführer: Stefan Wintermeyer, Handelsregister: Neuwied B14998 Asterisk: http://the-asterisk-book.com - http://das-asterisk-buch.de Videos of the AMOOCON VoIP conference 2009 - http://www.amoocon.de -- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Philipp Kempgen wrote: IMHO the Polycoms are a bad choice for the test because they reboot for every modification of the SIP account parameters so unless you have previous experience with the Polycoms you will loose a lot of time. Yeah, tell me about it. Snom is where it's at for instant provisioning changes. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Aastra phones need reboots too :-( On 20/09/2009, Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote: Philipp Kempgen wrote: IMHO the Polycoms are a bad choice for the test because they reboot for every modification of the SIP account parameters so unless you have previous experience with the Polycoms you will loose a lot of time. Yeah, tell me about it. Snom is where it's at for instant provisioning changes. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Sent from my mobile device http://www.suretecsystems.com/services/openldap/ http://www.suretectelecom.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com writes: Since Digium's contribution to Asterisk (hardware-wise) is Analog DAHDI cards, this makes sense (to me). They make quite a few digital DAHDI cards too (PRI and BRI). Analog is a bit 80's. /Benny ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 15:12 -0400, jon pounder wrote: Not that I would ever consider taking an exam like that, but I have been using/configuring asterisk since nearly the beginning of this mailing list, and I have never touched dahdi or polycom. Someone should still be able to pass an exam without knowing about specific hardware where there is more than one alternative to use in real configurations. Let me try to clarify things a bit here... The dCAP test is primary a test of Asterisk skills, not your familiarity with the configuration of a particular brand of phone or with the Digium line of hardware cards. Part of the test does require you to get an IP phone registered and talking to Asterisk, but the instructor should be more than happy to walk you through the web interface of the phone and say Put the SIP username here and Put the SIP password here and Put the IP address of your Asterisk server here. If you'd rather use a softphone on Linux, you're free to use that instead of or in addition to the IP phone. Another part of the test asks you to get an analog phone connected to Asterisk. If you don't get this part working, it doesn't have a huge effect on your score. (Less than 5% of the total score comes from configuring the analog phone correctly.) In addition, you are also asked to connect Asterisk to a (emulated) telco. We do give you the choice, however, of using *either* PSTN or VoIP connectivity to do so. In a nutshell, you can pass the test without having any experience on Polycom IP phones and Digium cards, as long as you know how to use Asterisk itself. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: In a nutshell, you can pass the test without having any experience on Polycom IP phones and Digium cards, as long as you know how to use Asterisk itself. You certainly can, but I think it's worth it to invest ~30 minutes beforehand so you know where you put IP addresses and accounts in Polycom phones, and so you can get basic DAHDI working. It isn't hard, it takes about 30 minutes to learn, and it doesn't even really require that you have the hardware in front of you. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that it is in the test -- if you can't connect SOME kind of phone to Asterisk, you don't deserve certification. They have to pick one brand because it's infeasible to bring 5 different phones for each test taker. So, to all you people who complain that the dCAP is too hardware specific: It isn't. Really, the only tricky thing to know is that you probably want the Address and the Auth User ID fields on a Polycom phone to contain the same value (often the phone extension, if you don't want to be fancy). The Address field should NOT contain an IP address. /Benny ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: Again, the emphasis on the dCAP exam is real-world knowledge of how to build a simple small-business PBX with Asterisk. If you've used Asterisk in a professional capacity, it should be very straightforward to pass the practical portion of the exam. I believe I can reveal this much without causing any problems for Digium: Be sure you have tried to configure a Polycom phone and an analog DAHDI card. Wasting 30 minutes on those two things makes passing the exam slightly more challenging... /Benny (whose only experience with analog DAHDI so far has been that dCAP exam) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Benny Amorsen wrote: Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: Not that I would ever consider taking an exam like that, but I have been using/configuring asterisk since nearly the beginning of this mailing list, and I have never touched dahdi or polycom. Someone should still be able to pass an exam without knowing about specific hardware where there is more than one alternative to use in real configurations. Again, the emphasis on the dCAP exam is real-world knowledge of how to build a simple small-business PBX with Asterisk. If you've used Asterisk in a professional capacity, it should be very straightforward to pass the practical portion of the exam. I believe I can reveal this much without causing any problems for Digium: Be sure you have tried to configure a Polycom phone and an analog DAHDI card. Wasting 30 minutes on those two things makes passing the exam slightly more challenging... /Benny (whose only experience with analog DAHDI so far has been that dCAP exam) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Since Digium's contribution to Asterisk (hardware-wise) is Analog DAHDI cards, this makes sense (to me). I suppose they could make a DCAP exam that just used SIP trunks and softphones, but then that would just be GCAP (Generic Certified Asterisk Professional) or SCAP (SIP Certified Asterisk Professional). Just my .02. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of jon pounder Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:12 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam Benny Amorsen wrote: Jared Smith jsm...@digium.com writes: Not that I would ever consider taking an exam like that, but I have been using/configuring asterisk since nearly the beginning of this mailing list, and I have never touched dahdi or polycom. Someone should still be able to pass an exam without knowing about specific hardware where there is more than one alternative to use in real configurations. Again, the emphasis on the dCAP exam is real-world knowledge of how to build a simple small-business PBX with Asterisk. If you've used Asterisk in a professional capacity, it should be very straightforward to pass the practical portion of the exam. I believe I can reveal this much without causing any problems for Digium: Be sure you have tried to configure a Polycom phone and an analog DAHDI card. Wasting 30 minutes on those two things makes passing the exam slightly more challenging... /Benny (whose only experience with analog DAHDI so far has been that dCAP exam) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On 18/09/09 7:12 AM, jon pounder wrote: Benny Amorsen wrote: Jared Smithjsm...@digium.com writes: Not that I would ever consider taking an exam like that, but I have been using/configuring asterisk since nearly the beginning of this mailing list, and I have never touched dahdi or polycom. Someone should still be able to pass an exam without knowing about specific hardware where there is more than one alternative to use in real configurations. To be fair, I'm about the same, but have used both DAHDI analogue lines and had to use them with Polycom phones. It's not really that difficult as long as you understand the tftp provisioning for the phones. -- Cheers, Matt Riddell Director ___ http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News) http://www.venturevoip.com/st.php (SmoothTorque Predictive Dialer) http://www.venturevoip.com/c3.php (ConduIT3 PABX Systems) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 20:14:32 Neeraj Chand wrote: Hmm...so by open book, that means access to the internet? Possible to get own notes ? Yes, you have access to the Internet, but your access is proxied, and the administrator of the test can see everything that you access. So it's best for you stick with only general guides and not look for crib notes. If your test proctor believes you cheated, you fail. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tilghman Lesher tles...@digium.comwrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009 20:14:32 Neeraj Chand wrote: Hmm...so by open book, that means access to the internet? Possible to get own notes ? Yes, you have access to the Internet, but your access is proxied, and the administrator of the test can see everything that you access. So it's best for you stick with only general guides and not look for crib notes. If your test proctor believes you cheated, you fail. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org Just tunnel your HTTP traffic over an SSH link and go to some dCAP brain dump sites. Or go to www.boratproxy.com and confuse their proxy. ah too fun. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
I believe the administrator can see what is on your screen with screen with those screen sharing stuff, this makes it harder a lil bit, and www.boratproxy.com becomes useless in that case. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Steve Totaro stot...@totarotechnologies.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tilghman Lesher tles...@digium.comwrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009 20:14:32 Neeraj Chand wrote: Hmm...so by open book, that means access to the internet? Possible to get own notes ? Yes, you have access to the Internet, but your access is proxied, and the administrator of the test can see everything that you access. So it's best for you stick with only general guides and not look for crib notes. If your test proctor believes you cheated, you fail. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org Just tunnel your HTTP traffic over an SSH link and go to some dCAP brain dump sites. Or go to www.boratproxy.com and confuse their proxy. ah too fun. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Pascal B. http://www.kameleonlabs.com/ Mike Ditka http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html - If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:28 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: Just tunnel your HTTP traffic over an SSH link and go to some dCAP brain dump sites. Yes, there are all kinds of technical ways of trying to cover your tracks... I've certainly seen a number of them. That being said, it's pretty easy for me to tell whether someone understands Asterisk or are just copying/pasting configurations from a website. Again, the emphasis on the dCAP exam is real-world knowledge of how to build a simple small-business PBX with Asterisk. If you've used Asterisk in a professional capacity, it should be very straightforward to pass the practical portion of the exam. If you're an Asterisk novice, you probably won't pass (even if you do copy/paste configs from a website). If you have further questions about the dCAP exam, I'd be happy to do what I can to answer them. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:14 +1200, Neeraj Chand wrote: Hmm...so by open book, that means access to the internet? Possible to get own notes ? You get access to voip-info.org and searching Google to use as a reference. We don't allow copying/pasting of config files, or copying files via the internet or USB sticks. The most helpful thing would be a past scenario, something that has come up in previous dCAP exams. Can anyone send in a short descriptor of the final prac [real scenario that has happened before?] Without going into too much detail on the exact details of the dCAP exam, the general idea is this: A small company has hired you to build a typical small-business PBX using Asterisk, and you have 90 minutes to get it up and running. Given the time constraint, we really stick to the basics, so there shouldn't be anything unexpected during the test. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Hi All, Thanks for all the wonderful contributions, from cell phones right up to proxies, etc... Many thanks also to Tony Turner for the great advice. As for Jared, what can I say...simply legend... :) I believe this is what I was after. :) For all those attending AstriconSee you there! The most helpful thing would be a past scenario, something that has come up in previous dCAP exams. Can anyone send in a short descriptor of the final prac [real scenario that has happened before?] Without going into too much detail on the exact details of the dCAP exam, the general idea is this: A small company has hired you to build a typical small-business PBX using Asterisk, and you have 90 minutes to get it up and running. Given the time constraint, we really stick to the basics, so there shouldn't be anything unexpected during the test. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
On Monday 14 September 2009 22:31:26 Neeraj Chand wrote: Is there anywhere I can possibly get a model of the exam itself, maybe possible scenarios for the prac, etc? The practical is open-book. You're welcome to look up anything you want, but the time constraint pretty much guarantees that if you know what you're doing, you can pass the practical. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam
Hmm...so by open book, that means access to the internet? Possible to get own notes ? The most helpful thing would be a past scenario, something that has come up in previous dCAP exams. Can anyone send in a short descriptor of the final prac [real scenario that has happened before?] I'm not worried about the content, it's an example that I'm after, so that I don't get thrown by it. :) Thanks Tilghman, :) _ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:38:04 -0500 From: Tilghman Lesher tles...@digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] dCAP Exam To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Message-ID: 200909150838.05001.tles...@digium.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Monday 14 September 2009 22:31:26 Neeraj Chand wrote: Is there anywhere I can possibly get a model of the exam itself, maybe possible scenarios for the prac, etc? The practical is open-book. You're welcome to look up anything you want, but the time constraint pretty much guarantees that if you know what you're doing, you can pass the practical. -- Tilghman Lesher Digium, Inc. | Senior Software Developer twitter: Corydon76 | IRC: Corydon76-dig (Freenode) Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
