Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

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Le 09/12/2020 à 15:46, Dmitry Melekhov a écrit :

Well, I already got on result:

As I suspected using Debian or Ubuntu leads to running unsupported OS 
version, because even LTS is too short..
Hu ? 5 years is too short ? You stay with the same hardware more than 5 
years ?



Anybody knows which linux Sangoma developers are using now?


09.12.2020 11:03, Dmitry Melekhov пишет:

Hello!

I use Centos for asterisk for long time.

And planned to install Centos 8 on new servers.

But because Centos is declared dead, what is best choice ? Oracle? 
Ubuntu?



Thank you!





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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 20:13, Joshua C. Colp пишет:



From an open source project perspective we would  accept issues filed 
when the underlying Linux distribution is one of those, as they are 
from RHEL. What we don't support is for example Gentoo, Arch, 
Slackware, that kind of thing.





Thank you very much!

Then I have to choose between Oracle and Ubuntu, btw, I currently run 
both, not for asterisk, though...



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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Joshua C. Colp]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 12:04 PM Dmitry Melekhov  wrote:

>
> 09.12.2020 18:52, Joshua C. Colp пишет:
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:47 AM Dmitry Melekhov  wrote:
>
>> Well, I already got on result:
>>
>> As I suspected using Debian or Ubuntu leads to running unsupported OS
>> version, because even LTS is too short..
>>
>>
>> Anybody knows which linux Sangoma developers are using now?
>
>
> I can only speak for the Asterisk development team at Sangoma but some of
> us use Fedora, Ubuntu based stuff, CentOS.
>
>
> Centos  8 will be dead in 1 year from now :-(
>
>
> From a project level our supported platforms philosophy/policy are on the
> wiki[1]. We don't have a specific version list, but we try to be reasonable
> with the popular distros and non-end of life versions.
>
> [1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Supported+Platforms
>
>
> "The Asterisk project supports 32-bit and 64-bit x86 platforms using
> non-end of life CentOS, RHEL."
>
> Well, if you supports RHEL, then Oracle is good or not?
>
> What is your opinion about RHEL clones after IBM killed Centos? Will be
> RHEL or Oracle supported?
>

>From an open source project perspective we would  accept issues filed when
the underlying Linux distribution is one of those, as they are from RHEL.
What we don't support is for example Gentoo, Arch, Slackware, that kind of
thing.

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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 18:52, Joshua C. Colp пишет:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:47 AM Dmitry Melekhov > wrote:


Well, I already got on result:

As I suspected using Debian or Ubuntu leads to running unsupported OS
version, because even LTS is too short..


Anybody knows which linux Sangoma developers are using now? 



I can only speak for the Asterisk development team at Sangoma but some 
of us use Fedora, Ubuntu based stuff, CentOS.



Centos  8 will be dead in 1 year from now :-(


From a project level our supported platforms philosophy/policy are on 
the wiki[1]. We don't have a specific version list, but we try to be 
reasonable with the popular distros and non-end of life versions.


[1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Supported+Platforms



"The Asterisk project supports 32-bit and 64-bit x86 platforms using 
non-end of life CentOS, RHEL."


Well, if you supports RHEL, then Oracle is good or not?

What is your opinion about RHEL clones after IBM killed Centos? Will be 
RHEL or Oracle supported?



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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Joshua C. Colp]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:47 AM Dmitry Melekhov  wrote:

> Well, I already got on result:
>
> As I suspected using Debian or Ubuntu leads to running unsupported OS
> version, because even LTS is too short..
>
>
> Anybody knows which linux Sangoma developers are using now?


I can only speak for the Asterisk development team at Sangoma but some of
us use Fedora, Ubuntu based stuff, CentOS. From a project level our
supported platforms philosophy/policy are on the wiki[1]. We don't have a
specific version list, but we try to be reasonable with the popular distros
and non-end of life versions.

[1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Supported+Platforms

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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

Well, I already got on result:

As I suspected using Debian or Ubuntu leads to running unsupported OS 
version, because even LTS is too short..



Anybody knows which linux Sangoma developers are using now?


09.12.2020 11:03, Dmitry Melekhov пишет:

Hello!

I use Centos for asterisk for long time.

And planned to install Centos 8 on new servers.

But because Centos is declared dead, what is best choice ? Oracle? 
Ubuntu?



Thank you!




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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

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On Wednesday 09 December 2020 at 13:52:24, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

> This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running
> Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)

Let's just say that there can be a big difference between "stable" and "secure" 
as well as between "stable" and "supported".

On Wednesday 09 December 2020 at 14:17:17, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

> Ya, I wouldn't say this is our normal behaviour - to complete ignore a
> running production system for four years, but if it ain't broke...

I think you have the wrong definition of "broke/n".  It may continue to be 
running the same way as it has for years, but during that time people have 
discovered ways in which the software on that machine turns out to be broken 
(which they didn't know at the time you installed it).

Therefore your machine is in fact "broke/n"; it's a state it's got into 
gradually over a period of time as people have found more and more bugs & 
vulnerabilities in its code.


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

Ya, I wouldn't say this is our normal behaviour - to complete ignore a 
running production system for four years, but if it ain't broke...


On 12/9/20 7:12 AM, Michel FACERIAS wrote:

Debian6 is very stable too.

I have some... in production :-)

Or not.

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Le 2020-12-09 14:06, Dmitry Melekhov a écrit :

09.12.2020 16:52, Jeff LaCoursiere пишет:



This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running 
Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)


Ubuntu 14...

It is not supported for years now.

This is not our method, we are replacing Centos 6 servers now...





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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 17:12, Michel FACERIAS пишет:

Debian6 is very stable too.

I have some... in production :-)

Or not.


or not, sure.

we had windows  servers randomly rebooting several years ( really, long 
time) ago, because we had no updates installed


you are running system with many known holes, this is not our method of 
operation  :-)





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Le 2020-12-09 14:06, Dmitry Melekhov a écrit :

09.12.2020 16:52, Jeff LaCoursiere пишет:



This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running 
Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)


Ubuntu 14...

It is not supported for years now.

This is not our method, we are replacing Centos 6 servers now...




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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Michel FACERIAS]

Debian6 is very stable too.

I have some... in production :-)

Or not.

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Le 2020-12-09 14:06, Dmitry Melekhov a écrit :

09.12.2020 16:52, Jeff LaCoursiere пишет:



This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running 
Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)


Ubuntu 14...

It is not supported for years now.

This is not our method, we are replacing Centos 6 servers now...


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 16:52, Jeff LaCoursiere пишет:



This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running 
Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)


Ubuntu 14...

It is not supported for years now.

This is not our method, we are replacing Centos 6 servers now...



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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

This machine I visited yesterday in our data center... it is running 
Ubuntu 14... I would say this is a pretty stable platform :)


Cheers,

j

On 12/9/20 5:00 AM, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:

09.12.2020 13:20, Frank Vanoni пишет:

On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:03 +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:


what is best choice ? Oracle? Ubuntu?

I'm running Asterisk since several years on Ubuntu without any issues.

Debian should be fine too.



Thank you.

This gives me just about 3-4 years of support, considering 2 years 
between LTS,


and upgrading remote server can be pain.

Anyway, this is good option...





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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Kai Herlemann]

Am 09.12.20 um 12:07 schrieb Antony Stone:

> Upgrading a Debian server to the next release is a whole lot easier than 
> doing 
> a CentOS one.

Correct. Although upgrading from CentOS 7 → 8 would be easier.
I'm almost lucky about that CentOS Distro will surely switching now,
because Debian/Ubuntu has bigger software repositorys. I missed in the
past some packages…

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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 16:03, Julian Beach пишет:
Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk? On Wednesday, December 
9, 2020, 11:07:55 AM, Antony Stone wrote:


*> Upgrading a Debian server to the next release is a whole lot easier 
than doing

> a CentOS one.

*It will be slightly easier for me having all Debian-based boxes, but 
my main concern will be the Sangoma drivers for the telephony cards, 
which are developed and tested on Centos and why I use Centos for my 
Asterisk server now.


Centos 7 is supported until 2024, so there is a bit of time to think 
about it.



No! I need to install several new servers this year :-(


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

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Title: Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?


On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:07:55 AM, Antony Stone wrote:

> Upgrading a Debian server to the next release is a whole lot easier than doing
> a CentOS one.

It will be slightly easier for me having all Debian-based boxes, but my main concern will be the Sangoma drivers for the telephony cards, which are developed and tested on Centos and why I use Centos for my Asterisk server now.

Centos 7 is supported until 2024, so there is a bit of time to think about it.


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Dmitry Melekhov]

09.12.2020 15:07, Antony Stone пишет:



This gives me just about 3-4 years of support, considering 2 years
between LTS,

and upgrading remote server can be pain.

Upgrading a Debian server to the next release is a whole lot easier than doing
a CentOS one.




There was no need to upgrade  Centos, only replace server. 10 years...



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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Antony Stone]

On Wednesday 09 December 2020 at 12:00:35, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:

> 09.12.2020 13:20, Frank Vanoni пишет:
> > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:03 +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
> >> what is best choice ? Oracle? Ubuntu?
> > 
> > I'm running Asterisk since several years on Ubuntu without any issues.
> > 
> > Debian should be fine too.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> This gives me just about 3-4 years of support, considering 2 years
> between LTS,
> 
> and upgrading remote server can be pain.

Upgrading a Debian server to the next release is a whole lot easier than doing 
a CentOS one.


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

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09.12.2020 13:20, Frank Vanoni пишет:

On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:03 +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:


what is best choice ? Oracle? Ubuntu?

I'm running Asterisk since several years on Ubuntu without any issues.

Debian should be fine too.



Thank you.

This gives me just about 3-4 years of support, considering 2 years 
between LTS,


and upgrading remote server can be pain.

Anyway, this is good option...



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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Frank Vanoni]

On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 11:03 +0400, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:

> what is best choice ? Oracle? Ubuntu?

I'm running Asterisk since several years on Ubuntu without any issues.

Debian should be fine too.


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Re: [asterisk-users] which linux for asterisk?

[Doug Lytle]

On 12/9/20 2:03 AM, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
But because Centos is declared dead, what is best choice ? Oracle? 
Ubuntu? 


And for those that have no idea as to what he is referring to (I 
didn't), here is the Register article


https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/09/centos_red_hat/

Doug

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