Re: SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 08:49 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From what I understand it means that the *hardware* in your computer 
 *acknowledges* the call as soon as it is recieved and then sends it to 
 asterisk dialplan for processing.

Hrm.  Yes, that is what I got from it.  But in my case the hardware is
an internal, PCI (Zap) Wildcard.  I am pressuming that since I can use
functions like Wait(), then Answer() in dialplan to actually delay
answering (for the Wait() time) that Asterisk actually acknowledges
the call.

 You would essentially need to put the delay before the call ever reaches 
 asterisk. So this problem isn't asterisk related... if I've understood your 
 question and the answer I found correctly.

Hrm.  Yeah.  Perhaps.  I guess perhaps Asterisk isn't currently able to
handle deciding if the call has been hung up before it even picks it up
(i.e. no more rings).  Maybe a peek at the source to Asterisk and the
zaptel drivers might tell me more.

I just find it strange that I am the first person to want this feature.
Indeed tomshardware.com has an article describing how to make an
answering machine out of Asterisk by doing exactly what I tried.  In my
experiments though, it just don't work the way they describe it.

Thanx,
b.

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Re: SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Ira

At 07:34 AM 02/03/2006, you wrote:
I am pressuming that since I can use functions like Wait(), then 
Answer() in dialplan to actually delay answering (for the Wait() 
time) that Asterisk actually acknowledges the call.


I think you need to use dial instead of answer. You can put a timeout 
in dial and if the call is hung up dial will exit. If it exited due 
to hangup the call will not be answered and the voicemail call will be ignores.


How you set up something to dial to that can't answer is beyond me, 
but if you can figure it out, that should work.


Ira 


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Re: SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 10:59 -0800, Ira wrote:
 
 I think you need to use dial instead of answer. You can put a timeout 
 in dial and if the call is hung up dial will exit.

Hung up?  By whom?  Assume this: while Dial() is working (and waiting
for the timeout) somebody has picked up a phone that shares the POTS
line with Asterisk.  Will that second pick up of the POTS line look like
a hangup on the POTS line to Asterisk while it is Dial()ing?

b.

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Re: SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Ira

At 11:38 AM 02/03/2006, you wrote:

Hung up?  By whom?  Assume this: while Dial() is working (and waiting
for the timeout) somebody has picked up a phone that shares the POTS
line with Asterisk.  Will that second pick up of the POTS line look like
a hangup on the POTS line to Asterisk while it is Dial()ing?


Sure seems to work that way here. I have a 4 line analog phone 
sharing the phones with * and if I grab it before a * goes to 
voicemail it never goes to voicemail.  Both my analog and SIP phones 
are ringing at the same time.


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Re: SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 12:47 -0800, Ira wrote:
 
 Sure seems to work that way here. I have a 4 line analog phone 
 sharing the phones with * and if I grab it before a * goes to 
 voicemail it never goes to voicemail.  Both my analog and SIP phones 
 are ringing at the same time.

Indeed it does seem to work, despite my skepticism.  It's wonderful.

b.

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SV: SV: [Asterisk-Users] delaying answer for a number of ringsor anamount of time

2006-02-02 Thread jan.sarin
From what I understand it means that the *hardware* in your computer 
*acknowledges* the call as soon as it is recieved and then sends it to 
asterisk dialplan for processing.

You would essentially need to put the delay before the call ever reaches 
asterisk. So this problem isn't asterisk related... if I've understood your 
question and the answer I found correctly.

Regards,
Jan

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On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:08 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-September/125146
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OK.  The hardware is a wildcard though.  How does that answer apply?
Isn't it asterisk itself that is picking that call up?  Can't it delay the pick 
up?  Maybe I am just misunderstanding your reference.

b.

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