RE: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for*paging feature)
I guess we are not thinking about the global extent of asterisk. $200 in a third world would be great money. You can almost buy a Dell computer for that much. But this is more like a $200 bounty to design, build and replace your Yugo engine with a Ferrari engine. And I only get the money if and when the customer is satisfied. I guess the Bounty poster does not understand You get what you pay for. Add a couple of zeroes and bring the big guns out of the woodwork. Race Mutiny on the Bounty Tyrant Vanderdecken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Fielding Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:01 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for*paging feature) - Original Message - From: snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] At $200 someone might be willing to do the work if they know it's going to be open source, but if it's a work for hire, $200 is extremely paltry. I'm with you on that one. $200 might be an acceptable bounty to give someone a bit of added incentive to contribute something to the community, but if the code is closed source and owned by the purchaser, than $200 won't even buy a day's worth of real coding. If you want to own it, you don't put out a bounty, you're hiring a programmer, and paying appropriately... regards, Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for*paging feature)
On April 20, 2005 03:18 pm, Race Vanderdecken wrote: Add a couple of zeroes and bring the big guns out of the woodwork. *snort* $20k for a simple paging AGI and web interface? You're more out of touch than I thought, even if it is closed source. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for * paging feature)
On April 19, 2005 08:41 pm, Matthew Walster wrote: Richard wrote: . close source and we own the code. I was interested until I saw this. Nice try, but no thanks. If you are doing what I think you're doing, you're opening Asterisk up to a patent fight. And that's not what we're about. You want to develop for Asterisk? Do it in the spirit of the community. I'm curious; what on earth are you talking about? Why is something they're not distributing opening up asterisk to a patent fight? -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for * paging feature)
On 4/19/05, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On April 19, 2005 08:41 pm, Matthew Walster wrote: Richard wrote: . close source and we own the code. I was interested until I saw this. Nice try, but no thanks. If you are doing what I think you're doing, you're opening Asterisk up to a patent fight. And that's not what we're about. You want to develop for Asterisk? Do it in the spirit of the community. I'm curious; what on earth are you talking about? Why is something they're not distributing opening up asterisk to a patent fight? It doesn't. Although I think the bounty system was put together under the assumption that the resulting code would be open source? I'd go for making that distinction. If someone wants custom code then that's what they would ask for, and if they post a bounty everyone knows the result will be available to the community. At $200 someone might be willing to do the work if they know it's going to be open source, but if it's a work for hire, $200 is extremely paltry. Chris ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for * paging feature)
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 19:58 -0700, snacktime wrote: It doesn't. Although I think the bounty system was put together under the assumption that the resulting code would be open source? I'd go for making that distinction. If someone wants custom code then that's what they would ask for, and if they post a bounty everyone knows the result will be available to the community. At $200 someone might be willing to do the work if they know it's going to be open source, but if it's a work for hire, $200 is extremely paltry. I agree that it is not worth my time for $200 only, especially paid the way it is. This is more than one days work and that is barely one days pay. But the use of the word bounty, since that is an older word that was adapted to mean paying for code I dont know that to nit pick over the use of that term, when it was clear what he was asking for, closed source that he owns the rights to since he is paying for it, I cant have an objection to the use of that term. If he had asked for someone to be a code whore (program for cash) I wouldnt have a problem with that either, and I have even called myself a tech whore (I do more than just code) for that reason. Soime people however may take offense to using that term. If people pay me to code I have absolutly no problem with them owning it, infact its the law in many places that unless previously stated when contracted to do work, when you do work for hire the work product is the property of the person paying. I would have had more of a symantic problem with him saying it was a donation rather than a bounty. After all bounty hunters are people who perform a task for money, not for the good of the community. But as long as it was clearly defined I would have just ignored the use of the word 'donation' rather than anything else. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: licensing *sigh* (was Re: [Asterisk-Users] US$200 bounty for *paging feature)
- Original Message - From: snacktime [EMAIL PROTECTED] At $200 someone might be willing to do the work if they know it's going to be open source, but if it's a work for hire, $200 is extremely paltry. I'm with you on that one. $200 might be an acceptable bounty to give someone a bit of added incentive to contribute something to the community, but if the code is closed source and owned by the purchaser, than $200 won't even buy a day's worth of real coding. If you want to own it, you don't put out a bounty, you're hiring a programmer, and paying appropriately... regards, Paul ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
