Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-12 Thread Julian Fondren 
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 6:26:52 AM UTC-5, gmhwxi wrote:
>
> I hope that I can just pick a few videos when teaching ATS next year :)
>
> My wish list:
>
> 1) A video on packaging (via npm)
>

This would make good sense if the ATS were targeting JS as well (similarly 
if you were targeting Perl, why not put the module in CPAN), or if it were 
a more neutral library that some JS-targeting code were dependent on. But 
as a repo for ATS *in general,* I feel like this will ultimately lead to a 
conflict that leads to the ATS projects getting kicked off of npm. That 
might be as simple as

1. an ATS user picks ReallyCoolLibraryName for something that doesn't 
target JS

2. a JS user thinks of something similar and wants to pick 
ReallyCoolLibraryName for it

3. the JS user sees the existing library, says "oh cool someone did this 
already", but then realizes he can't make use of it at all--it's not JS.

4. the JS user complains: npm is "a JavaScript repository" and 
ReallyCoolLibraryName is *squatting* on a name I want and also it wasted my 
time because I thought I might be able to use it.

In the meantime, I feel like an index would be good enough, or something 
like https://crystalshards.xyz/ (that just reports on Crystal code that it 
finds on GitHub)
 

> 2) More videos on using templates (The readline example is great!)
> 3) ... ...
>

I don't have a lot of ideas for videos atm.

"You can use typedef to save on some verbosity :)"

"This is how I rewrote a C program into ATS"

"Here's rsync with some functionality implemented in ATS"

"Here's a few wrappers I wrote", similar to the getline one. And these are 
all similar to the getline one in that it's more retrospective than live 
coding like the earlier videos.
 

>
> Cheers!
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 7:01 AM Julian Fondren  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:34:50 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>>>
>>> Youtube has a lot of advantages:
>>> 1. it's big so you'll get the widest audience
>>> 2. it encodes your video across many quality settings (bitchute just has 
>>> one)
>>> 3. it doesn't use bittorrent so it won't get firewalled as easily (you 
>>> can turn that off for bitchute, but it's best to use it if you can)
>>> 4. you get a lot of options to change the appearance of your channel
>>>
>>> It also has some unique (and severe) disadvantages but they *probably* 
>>> won't strike a channel about a programming language.
>>> ...If you add music like I did on the latest video, that's probably the 
>>> only thing that might cause annoyances for you with Youtube.
>>> ...in fact I'll go ahead and set up a Youtube copy of my Bitchute 
>>> channel.
>>>
>>
>> That's done: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYOrtZYEV1hAtvZDcrL277Q/
>>
>> And that URL will be as ugly until the channel gets 100 subscribers. At 
>> that time I can change to atsmoe or atsunofficial or like.
>>
>> More Youtube advantages:
>> 1. although bittorrent isn't slow anymore, Youtube is still faster 
>> (partially because it quickly produces low-quality videos, and adds on the 
>> quality over time)
>> 2. youtube has a lot of extra tools for working with videos
>>
>> More Youtube disadvantages:
>> 1. it's a lot pickier about 'invalid chars' -- you can't put > in a 
>> description; I couldn't put (.moe) in the channel title, etc.
>> 2. some of youtube's automatic video enhancement might be unwanted. The 
>> ATS->JS video jiggles a bit.
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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-05 Thread Hongwei Xi 
I would really like to encourage people interested in ATS to subscribe.

I hope that I can just pick a few videos when teaching ATS next year :)

My wish list:

1) A video on packaging (via npm)
2) More videos on using templates (The readline example is great!)
3) ... ...

Cheers!

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 7:01 AM Julian Fondren 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:34:50 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>>
>> Youtube has a lot of advantages:
>> 1. it's big so you'll get the widest audience
>> 2. it encodes your video across many quality settings (bitchute just has
>> one)
>> 3. it doesn't use bittorrent so it won't get firewalled as easily (you
>> can turn that off for bitchute, but it's best to use it if you can)
>> 4. you get a lot of options to change the appearance of your channel
>>
>> It also has some unique (and severe) disadvantages but they *probably*
>> won't strike a channel about a programming language.
>> ...If you add music like I did on the latest video, that's probably the
>> only thing that might cause annoyances for you with Youtube.
>> ...in fact I'll go ahead and set up a Youtube copy of my Bitchute channel.
>>
>
> That's done: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYOrtZYEV1hAtvZDcrL277Q/
>
> And that URL will be as ugly until the channel gets 100 subscribers. At
> that time I can change to atsmoe or atsunofficial or like.
>
> More Youtube advantages:
> 1. although bittorrent isn't slow anymore, Youtube is still faster
> (partially because it quickly produces low-quality videos, and adds on the
> quality over time)
> 2. youtube has a lot of extra tools for working with videos
>
> More Youtube disadvantages:
> 1. it's a lot pickier about 'invalid chars' -- you can't put > in a
> description; I couldn't put (.moe) in the channel title, etc.
> 2. some of youtube's automatic video enhancement might be unwanted. The
> ATS->JS video jiggles a bit.
>
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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-05 Thread Julian Fondren 


On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:34:50 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>
> Youtube has a lot of advantages:
> 1. it's big so you'll get the widest audience
> 2. it encodes your video across many quality settings (bitchute just has 
> one)
> 3. it doesn't use bittorrent so it won't get firewalled as easily (you can 
> turn that off for bitchute, but it's best to use it if you can)
> 4. you get a lot of options to change the appearance of your channel
>
> It also has some unique (and severe) disadvantages but they *probably* 
> won't strike a channel about a programming language.
> ...If you add music like I did on the latest video, that's probably the 
> only thing that might cause annoyances for you with Youtube.
> ...in fact I'll go ahead and set up a Youtube copy of my Bitchute channel.
>

That's done: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYOrtZYEV1hAtvZDcrL277Q/

And that URL will be as ugly until the channel gets 100 subscribers. At 
that time I can change to atsmoe or atsunofficial or like.

More Youtube advantages:
1. although bittorrent isn't slow anymore, Youtube is still faster 
(partially because it quickly produces low-quality videos, and adds on the 
quality over time)
2. youtube has a lot of extra tools for working with videos

More Youtube disadvantages:
1. it's a lot pickier about 'invalid chars' -- you can't put > in a 
description; I couldn't put (.moe) in the channel title, etc.
2. some of youtube's automatic video enhancement might be unwanted. The 
ATS->JS video jiggles a bit.

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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-05 Thread Julian Fondren 

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:17:14 AM UTC-5, Artyom Shalkhakov 
wrote:
>
> I've watched this video in full and it's nice! You took a problem and 
> presented solutions with their pros and cons.
>
> Since you're recording your terminal, you might settle for very simple 
> "tele typing" or some such. I guess there was project for doing just that: 
> recording terminal interaction and then playing it back in the browser. 
> This should make it simpler for you to host your videos.
>
>
You might be thinking of https://asciinema.org/ , which has some advantages 
(copy and paste!), and the big disadvantage of no sound. It's probably a 
good alternative to my latest video.
 

> How do you make these videos? I'll probably record something as well!
>  
>

On ChromeOS I pay for Screencastify 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/screencastify-screen-vide/mmeijimgabbpbgpdklnllpncmdofkcpn

It can record your entire screen, one Chrome tab, or a separate window (for 
my videos a Linux terminal provided by Crostini--a ChromeOS feature that's 
still in beta for most devices), and it comes with a simple cropping tool 
plus a slightly more advanced editor. Some of their animations show macOS 
window features, so it works on multiple platforms. I haven't tried it off 
of ChromeOS though.
Screencastify can also record your webcam, either as the entire video or as 
a small box within the main recording.

I recorded the first few videos on macOS, using QuickTime Player. There are 
some instructions 
here: 
https://support.apple.com/guide/quicktime-player/record-your-screen-qtp97b08e666/mac
A nice thing about QuickTime Player is that you can draw an arbitrary box 
on your screen and record only whatever's in that box. So for example you 
could normally have a terminal, but then drag a browser into view for a bit.

On Linux I've used ffmpeg alone to record screencasts, but that requires a 
lot of hand-holding to get started. ffmpeg is a Swiss Army Knife for 
working with videos even if you don't use it to record videos though. I 
used it to attach music to the latest video, and I used it to re-encode 
QuickTime Player's videos into .webm format

  # turn .mp4 into .webm
  ffmpeg -i somevid.mp4 somevid.webm

  # take a short silent video + hours of music and copy as much music as 
needed onto the video
  ffmpeg -i electroswing.mp3 -i screencast-silent.webm -codec copy 
-shortest screencast.webm 

Probably most people use https://obsproject.com/ - it works on multiple 
platforms and has a ton of features, and is free. I've never used it :)

For hosting the videos, if you have .webm then you can view it with pretty 
much any browser after putting it on any server. I have just have a shared 
hosting account with unmetered disk storage -- for marketing reasons 
everyone calls it "unlimited", but what's really meant is that your hosting 
fees don't vary by how large your files are. As a result of the marketing 
reasons, the practical limit is usually fairly high for the price.

And of course you can upload to a video hosting site. Bitchute requires you 
validate your email address, and then you can create a channel and upload 
to it. With Youtube you can freely upload videos below 15min; for longer 
videos I only needed to verify my phone, but there may be other 
requirements. The experience in both cases is similar: you give them your 
video which can be a number of formats, and some extra information, and 
they process the video before listing it. The other day Bitchute was quite 
slow to publish a video, but it's been just fine, lately.

Youtube has a lot of advantages:
1. it's big so you'll get the widest audience
2. it encodes your video across many quality settings (bitchute just has 
one)
3. it doesn't use bittorrent so it won't get firewalled as easily (you can 
turn that off for bitchute, but it's best to use it if you can)
4. you get a lot of options to change the appearance of your channel

It also has some unique (and severe) disadvantages but they *probably* 
won't strike a channel about a programming language.
...If you add music like I did on the latest video, that's probably the 
only thing that might cause annoyances for you with Youtube.
...in fact I'll go ahead and set up a Youtube copy of my Bitchute channel.

I've tried a built-in mic (too much environmental audio) and a headset mic 
(too much nonvocal audio) and settled on Blue Microphones' 
products: https://www.amazon.com/l/2529047011

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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-05 Thread Artyom Shalkhakov 
Hi Julian!

ср, 5 сент. 2018 г. в 13:42, Julian Fondren :

> Trying something different with
> https://www.bitchute.com/video/oK0EqH5035cN/ (or
> https://ats-lang.moe/isaats/isaats-008.webm )
>
> Instead of spoken commentary, there's typed commentary, with music.
>
> I think spoken commentary makes for a much better video, but they're also
> videos that are a lot harder *for me* to make.
>
> If any of you have *merely technological *barriers to making videos about
> ATS, please let me know. That part is easy :) In the latest video I don't
> even produce any code extemporaneously, except to make a few edits, and I
> think that format would work fine with spoken commentary.
>
>
I've watched this video in full and it's nice! You took a problem and
presented solutions with their pros and cons.

Since you're recording your terminal, you might settle for very simple
"tele typing" or some such. I guess there was project for doing just that:
recording terminal interaction and then playing it back in the browser.
This should make it simpler for you to host your videos.

How do you make these videos? I'll probably record something as well!


> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>>
>> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>> 
>>
>> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about
>> uploading them.
>>
>> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long,
>> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>>
>> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
>> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
>> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the
>> video
>> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for
>> any ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from
>> an idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over
>> the course of a video)
>>
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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-09-05 Thread Julian Fondren 
Trying something different 
with https://www.bitchute.com/video/oK0EqH5035cN/ (or 
https://ats-lang.moe/isaats/isaats-008.webm )

Instead of spoken commentary, there's typed commentary, with music.

I think spoken commentary makes for a much better video, but they're also 
videos that are a lot harder *for me* to make.

If any of you have *merely technological *barriers to making videos about 
ATS, please let me know. That part is easy :) In the latest video I don't 
even produce any code extemporaneously, except to make a few edits, and I 
think that format would work fine with spoken commentary.

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>
> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/ 
> 
>
> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about 
> uploading them.
>
> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long, 
> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>
> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the 
> video
> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for any 
> ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from an 
> idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over the 
> course of a video)
>

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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-08-19 Thread vanessa . mchale 
It's pretty hard not to suck at ATS since it requires being good at both 
functional and systems programming :p

I have a lot of experience with Haskell, but not so much strict functional 
programming (much is the same, however...). But I don't know much C and in 
either case the compiler kicks my butt quite often lol.

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>
> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>
> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about 
> uploading them.
>
> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long, 
> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>
> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the 
> video
> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for any 
> ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from an 
> idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over the 
> course of a video)
>

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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-08-18 Thread Hongwei Xi 
I, too, suck :)

Especially with the feature of templates. One can readily sense that
this feature is of great potential. But it requires a lot of study and
practice
before we can unleash it.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:12 AM Artyom Shalkhakov <
artyom.shalkha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Julian!
>
> I have to admit, I too suck at ATS! :-)
>
> Humility helps a great deal!
>
> чт, 16 авг. 2018 г., 13:19 Julian Fondren :
>
>> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>>
>> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about
>> uploading them.
>>
>> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long,
>> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>>
>> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
>> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
>> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the
>> video
>> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for
>> any ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from
>> an idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over
>> the course of a video)
>>
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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-08-17 Thread Julian Fondren 
Hmm... bitchute might be a little overwhelmed. It's been more than 12 hours 
since my last upload and it's still 'processing'.
They use bittorrent in the browser to reduce playing costs but they're not 
also using visitors' browsers to *re-encode* their videos.

You can find .webm versions of this series at https://ats-lang.moe/ , along 
with some other odds and ends.

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, Julian Fondren wrote:
>
> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>
> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about 
> uploading them.
>
> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long, 
> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>
> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the 
> video
> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for any 
> ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from an 
> idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over the 
> course of a video)
>

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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-08-16 Thread Artyom Shalkhakov 
Hi Julian!

I have to admit, I too suck at ATS! :-)

Humility helps a great deal!

чт, 16 авг. 2018 г., 13:19 Julian Fondren :

> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>
> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about
> uploading them.
>
> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long,
> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>
> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the
> video
> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for any
> ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from an
> idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over the
> course of a video)
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Re: An "I suck at ATS" screencast

2018-08-16 Thread Hongwei Xi 
Thank you!

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:19 AM Julian Fondren 
wrote:

> Found here: https://www.bitchute.com/video/arsFOT0Apsw2/
>
> I have some other videos in advance, so I'll try to be regular about
> uploading them.
>
> The first is just 'hello world'. Although the video is 46+ minutes long,
> it does show a successful 'hello world' in the first minute.
>
> The "I suck at ATS" part of the title is
> 1. fairly appropriate considering the content
> 2. a small tribute to a Youtuber who'd died shortly before I recorded the
> video
> 3. a title I'll use, even if hypothetically I stop sucking at ATS, for any
> ATS screencsat that's similarly unscripted and unprepared (apart from an
> idea of something to do and the feeling that I can probably do it over the
> course of a video)
>
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