Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Hi.I hope you feel better soon. As for the living alone, I know how it feels and now that we can barely get out it gets even worse. I hope it gets better for you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616005/#p616005 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology no need for an apology, but i respect you for it ithope your physical and mental health get's better soon, blessings URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615967/#p615967 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology When I posted on the Discord server a couple of weeks back to try to get stuff rolling again, this is why I did not do so in a confrontational tone. We're in very strange times, and it seems I was right on the money, I did not want to hound Jayde or for that matter, anyone. I will admit, the long silence did frustrate me and we still have a few things we're working on. I have been more active, checking the Discord when I can and not just relying on push notifications. But if I knew, for instance, that Jayde wasn't coming back for a while, I would have tried to get, for instance, the assets thing sorted and then catch Jayde up later. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615597/#p615597 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Hi Jayde.I hope you'll get better very soon. It's fully understandable if you need to take a break from the forum. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615310/#p615310 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology the most important thing is that you're fine. then comes your personal life. then comes the forum. it's your last priority, and it should stay that way. i'm happy you're all right. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615208/#p615208 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Jayde, as someone who has done the whole mod thing myself, I'd like to congratulate you on taking care of yourself first and foremost, as you can do nothing else before doing that. It's been said before but I do believe that it bares repeating, that you cannot help others fix their backyards without first looking at your own.Next, what you did is entirely within reason and character and goes along the lines of what Dark and others have done. In his case I can think of at least one time where he was absent for quite some time and people began to ask about him... I seem to recall it being shortly after I was placed on the mod team along with at least one other person, though I could be wrong on that count. In truth, we neither resented him for it nor did we try to hunt him down, believing his break was much needed given all the work he'd done for the forum and the database. In many respects, I feel like this is more or less the same. Whether you've meant to or not you've sort of been the front guy on this for awhile now. I'm not sure if the others are naturally defering to you because you exhibit exceptional leadership skills or if they feel your age and your apparent amount of experience as demonstrated by the way you write go hand in hand and they look up to you for it. Whatever the case, in many respects you've sort of been given the wheel and that's always a tough place to be. That you took a much needed leave of absence is not something I can fault you for and, as best I can tell, there's noone else here who does. Keep on keepin on and hopefully things will go better in the not too distant future. Here's consistently wishing you all the best, and while I feel there probably isn't much I can personally do for you, you do know where to find me if the need should arise and you can think of any one favor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615203/#p615203 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Good. I hope you will get better soon. Stomach problems sucks as fuck, I know because I was going through it this very week.Stay safe!P.S. I would be happy if I didn't have human contact that often. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615160/#p615160 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Yeah. You oh this forum literally nothing, nor have you accumulated some sort of debt that now needs to be paid. Your break from here was a long time coming, IMO. You need to take care of yourself before anything else. And if the webmasters don't make some sort of appearance soon, this forum might as well be a sinking ship anyway unless we choose to migrate somewhere else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615152/#p615152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology As a volaenteer an appology is not really needed as you are giving this forum your free time to deal with the crap that happens on here. Stress that is most defenatly not needed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615146/#p615146 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Hi Jayde,Sorry to hear you’ve not been doing so well over the last month. Pleased to hear you seem to be doing a little better now. As for feeling insignificant, you’re probably one of the most well known people in the audio games circuit, that has to count for something as far as audio games go, I’m sure you have a lot going on for you outside of audio games in the real world too. I have a ton of respect for you as a person and your opinions, also for how you handle yourself and issues which crop up here.Often when shit goes south, its yourself at the forefront trying to smooth things over and sort things out, so I hugely appreciate and respect the time and effort you put in here. Like others have said though, make sure you put your own health first, that’s way more important than anything going on here. We all have our own issues from time to time, and everyone needs some down time, so don’t feel bad for not being around for a while. As for the social element, if you ever feel down and need someone to reach out and chat to you can always look me up on skipe, I’m always there to help out a fellow gamer, even if its to just chat audio games, games in general or nothing to do with games at all, I’m always here, I’m paul.lemm0 on skipe if you ever want anythingPaul lemm URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615132/#p615132 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
2021-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology Welcome back on the forums! And here I thought me seeing less moderation posts was because of people's improved behavior. Oh well... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615126/#p615126 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology denial and/or ignorance is always the first stage of events. So it's natural. We can't do much about it until we either come back to reality, or we have more time to learn and/or reflect on what is happening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615123/#p615123 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Not being able to eat normally some of the time means I'm having trouble metabolizing food into stormlight--wait, I'm not Lift. I'm not that kind of awesome. Heh.Thanks for the support. And you're quite right. At first, I thought it would pass, so I put it off. Then, when I realized it wouldn't, and I was falling deeper into a hole, there was a bit of denial there, and a bit of reclusivity for good measure. I hid from almost everything. Hopefully I'm done with that now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615118/#p615118 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology I recall once saying, more or less jokingly, that you should try leaving for a while to see how well the rest of the staff team fares on their own. To be honest, I'm kind of glad that you (unintentionally) participated in that experiment in the end. Hopefully, everyone learned something from it. As for your apology, I agree with all the great posts above. It's OK. You're only human, as are we all. A notice would have been good, sure, but given your state at the time I can see why you wouldn't send it; perhaps from denial, convincing yourself that it's just a small thing and you'll be fine tomorrow, or perhaps because of a simple lack of spoons (mental energy).I hope the pills help and you'll be back on your feet soon, at least physically. And then, hopefully, mentally as well. We're not the best community to socialize with -- heck, we're a terrible one! -- but we're here if you need us, and there's a few Discord servers out there for voice chat. It's not the same and not enough, not in the slightest, but we'll do what we can if you want us to.And Jayde? Don't forget to be awesome. <3 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615117/#p615117 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Fair enough man, I'm not going to say I appreciated the absents, but you also shouldn't be expected to carry the entire team when it comes to everything other than rename and unrestriction requests all the time either. It was their responsibility to pick up the slack and it didn't really happen until Jack stepped up.I'm also continually impressed by how much shit you're willing to take from this place and still keep the dedication going, so I always sorta felt as though something like this would have to happen eventually.I'm sorry you've been feeling like such shit, and I hope it doesn't last much longer.I appreciate the apology and accept it 100%. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615102/#p615102 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology It's been said already, but I personally feel like you have nothing to apologize for. But having said that, welcome back! And I hope things start looking up a little sooner rather than later. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615089/#p615089 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Oof. That sounds rough, especially the stomach issues. Glad the medicine seems to be helping. As for the mental stuff, I'm sure a lot of people are going through similar things with this pandemic going on, so you're not alone there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615088/#p615088 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Oh, I'm not beating myself into the ground over this. I fucked up a bit, and I'm going to try and fix it. It's really that simple. I know that my health comes first; eventually, if this carries on or gets worse or whatever, I'll step aside so as not to be burdensome.I'm not going to dig into this, but my feelings of loneliness and smallness and all the rest have nothing to do with this forum or my actions here. Nothing at all. They are related to other facets of my life that I'm not going to discuss at length. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615087/#p615087 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology "But I voluntarily took a position of responsibility, then didn't deliver on it for awhile. That's not okay."Certainly, that's not okay. But, let's not forget, you, are, a human before this administration hat. You should not pressurize yourself when you have health problems, that will frustrate you a lot, that's psychological. If you do it fresh and healthy, you will keep your calm.Though I must say, like that spirit of yours, keep it up! Positive state of mind will help you a lot.Edit: @JayJay, please check your email, I am waiting for a reply and I haven't got one for 4 to 5 days. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615085/#p615085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology "But I voluntarily took a position of responsibility, then didn't deliver on it for awhile. That's not okay."Certainly, that's not okay. But, let's not forget, you, are, a human before this administration hat. You should not pressurize yourself when you have health problems, that will frustrate you a lot, that's psychological. If you do it fresh and healthy, you will keep your calm.Though I must say, like that spirit of yours, keep it up! Positive state of mind will help you a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615085/#p615085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Welcome back. Hope you get better URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615079/#p615079 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Everyone is human. Shit happens, your health should always be above anything else, be it voluntary or paid. What's the point of working for cash if you're too sick to even enjoy it? And what's the point of doing your service to the community if you're too ill to think straight? Also, I'm rather sorry about the food thing, it happened to me a while back URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615078/#p615078 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
2021-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology This places ain't worth putting yourself further in peril. Don't worry about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615076/#p615076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology I'm sorry you're going through all this. Take the time you need and welcome back. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615075/#p615075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology I'm glad your back on your feet (or you seem to be). I have to agree with 2 though. Though you were right in 3 that going dark wasn't okay, you aren't being paid for this at all, and your health should be your highest priority at all times. However, I also see where your coming from with 3.Glad to see your back. Lets hope the symptoms -- both mental and physical -- go away soon. (I really, really understand the lack of social contact problem... I feel for you, I really do. That's never fun. I hope you get a lot more of that social contact too.)And yes, apology accepted. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615074/#p615074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology I'm glad your back on your feet (or you seem to be). I have to agree with 2 though. Though you were right in 3 that going dark wasn't okay, you aren't being paid for this at all, and your health should be your highest priority at all times. However, I also see where your coming from with 3.Glad to see your back. Lets hope the symptoms -- both mental and physical -- go away soon. (I really, really understand the lack of social contact problem... I feel for you, I really do. That's never fun. I hope you get a lot more of that social contact too.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615074/#p615074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology I'm glad your back on your feet (or you seem to be). I have to agree with 2 though. Though you were right in 3 that going dark wasn't okay, you aren't being paid for this at all, and your health should be your highest priority at all times. However, I also see where your coming from with 3.Glad to see your back. Lets hope the symptoms -- both mental and physical -- go away soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615074/#p615074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology totally agree with @2. You don't need to justify why your health is more important than a volunteer position at a drama filled forum. Good to see that you have gotten the strength to at least write this post again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615071/#p615071 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Two things:First, thank you for the kind words. If I were a forum user with no real responsibility, then no, I don't really have to apologize to anyone for going dark for a month. But I voluntarily took a position of responsibility, then didn't deliver on it for awhile. That's not okay. And while I didn't just do it because I wanted to screw people over or whatnot, that doesn't matter. I still did it. It's poor conduct, and I don't intend to keep it up.As far as Aprone's claim, we have read it, processed it and are looking into it. With enough of the team otherwise occupied, we definitely haven't given this situation the attention it merits with the speed required. Again, we're going to do better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615070/#p615070 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A Public Apology
Re: A Public Apology Welcome back. Apology accepted. I'd say, you don't need to apologize for this,, since you are voluntarily working, and giving some personal time of yours on the forum as an administrator. That is highly appreciated. If you need some breaks, you should go for them, give your health very first priority. I don't know what to say more, will end it here.By the way, somebody is waiting for you to read this. Just saying if you haven't checked it yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615069/#p615069 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A Public Apology
A Public Apology Hi, folks,The more observant among you might have realized that it's been nearly a month since my last post here on the forum. I'm here to explain some of that, and to offer an apology to every one of you that I may have let down in so doing.I'm not going to go into a ton of personal detail here, but I'll sketch the outlines of what has been happening in my life in such a way as to hopefully help you understand why this topic even has to exist.First, I've been feeling off and on unwell for quite awhile now. I have had intermittent stomach problems for my entire life, and over the last couple of months, they seem to have changed a little. I'm investigating it, and there doesn't seem to be anything horribly wrong with me, but it's still been tough to deal with. The smell of food has been making me nauseous enough that there were two and three-day periods where I was eating meals one bite at a time, over a period of hours, if at all. I've been tired and listless (more on this later), and while I haven't experienced any real pain, I've been quite uncomfortable a good deal of the time. I am changing my diet and now taking some pills which seem to be helping, so let's hope I've experienced the worst of my physical ailments.Second, I've also been mentally unwell. I'm not suicidal and I'm not self-harming (unless you count the weird eating/food stuff as a form of self-harm, that is), but I have felt extremely small, insignificant and alone for quite awhile now, and those feelings sort of bubbled over during the last month and a half or so. I live alone and am not getting enough human contact, and that's making things worse. I know full well that some people have it way worse than I do, but for me, it's been plenty bad enough. At last check, I do not have clinical depression, but this period is probably the second or third lowest of my life. And it just so happened to coincide with physical symptoms. In fact, knowing what I do about concurrent disorders, they probably fed off each other a bit. If any of you know how this feels, you have my profoundest sympathies.I was not active here on the forum, nor on the discord server. I wasn't really checking in with anyone, except to occasionally muck about on Facebook or YouTube, and even that was spotty. I read a lot, slept a lot, lay in bed a lot, and ultimately did not perform my duties as an admin of this forum. For that, I humbly apologize. I should have informed the staff team, at least, far sooner than I did. I have since done so, and the general consensus seems to be that while they would definitely have appreciated better notice, they understand the way that life can sometimes kick a person in the teeth. I'm here today telling you this because I know that I bear responsibility for my inactions. I vow to be better about this in future.I hope that for most of you, this candid explanation is enough to explain and perhaps even excuse my absence. For the rest, I'd like to point out that this is really the first time I've done such a thing, so my silence is not an indicator of pattern behaviour. You can reasonably expect not to have to deal with this from me going forward. If in future I feel that I can no longer fulfill my role on the team, I will resign from my position. Failing that, if I am overwhelmed and needing a break, I promise to inform the team first rather than after the worst is over. I would generally rather give notice than ask forgiveness, after all.The staff team at large appears to have been going through a period of lower activity lately. I cannot and will not speak for other members of the team as to why this is the case, but I want to reassure you, as a current administrator, that yes, we're still here, and yes, we do care about you. We intend to do what we said we would, and are working hard to get back on track.Once again, I apologize for these complications, and vow to do my part to make right by those of you I have upset or disappointed by my inaction. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/615067/#p615067 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
