Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Glad that is the case, it will definitely help on my system as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/485498/#p485498 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Since yesterday I have been using NVDA 2019.3 beta1. It completely fixed the issue I described, but because of the major overhawl with python3, there aren't that many addons that work with it at the moment, which is a shame, but hopefully once the real version comes out it'll get better. I also love the new screen curtain function. So yeah, I'm really looking forward to the release of 2019.3 and every other subsiquent version of NVDA going forward. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/485488/#p485488 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi.I've made a post on github for my issue. I did mention this forum and gave the link.Here's the link: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10586 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483357/#p483357 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy hi. I am also having the same ishue with NVDAin which version i should downgrade my NVDA to solv this problem?its really started to unoi me and its to fricvant URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483321/#p483321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
2019-12-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : vaibhavbhandari via Audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Can anyone post my debug file on the github page of NVDA for this issue as I don't know how to do it. I have given the link for the file and yes, I didn't enter any password when it was in debug mode. I too have lenovo laptop with windows 10. The thing is that I bought it in January and before that I had my HP laptop with windows 10 only. This problem didn't occur during that time. When I was using this laptop of mine, the problem did not begin when I bought it. It only started to happen a few months ago. One of my friends too has this problem. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483128/#p483128 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I had this issue on Windows 7 actually, and it was more common before I upgraded to 10 for me. It didn't happen as often thank god, but it would almost always occur when listening to a file in Winamp for at least a couple minutes, or sometimes when reading a long document in Chrome. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483120/#p483120 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I have this same issue on a Lenovo Yoga with an Intel i7 8100U and 8 GB ram which has never ran anything other than factory windows ten. I also had this same issue on a work computer with I think 16 gigs of ram and also an i7 processor. (turns out JAWS isn't always better in professional settings, I use both and they both have a place IMHO), but yeah this has been a bug in NVDA for years. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483092/#p483092 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy At post23, this is the factory Lenovo install of Windows 10, so I was not upgrading from an earlier version. It started happening right as soon as I installed NVDA in the first 30 minutes I had the computer. One more thing that may be of note, not sure if it has anything to do with it, but I installed NVDA through a portable install with all my configuration and addons kept, by selecting install nVDA in the tools menu. Do you think that has anything to do with it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483086/#p483086 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I would love to post a bug report as well but the thing is, I don't know how to go about it. Let me explain my issue, then perhaps you guys can suggest how to word this report.On some wep pages when you reed something, NVDA is chopping off some of the text.let me give you a example.if you read in say all. with nvda and down arrow. this happens. if you use any other reading command, it does not happen.so here's a lign of text.first i'll right it out. the correct way NVDA reads it, then i'll right it out. the way the bug happens.This is my sample lign of text. it shows you how it will sound when nvda is not reading it correctly. It can happen on many wep pages but only on web pages.Now comes the same lign, but here's how nvda reeds it.This is my sample lign of text. of text, it shows you how it will sound ill sound, ound ound when nvda is not reading it orrectly. It can happen on many web pages ut only on web ages.things i've tried.1 running the latest version.2. updating graphics drivers.3. using different versions of windows.I mainly use fire fox so I cannot say if this is happening on other browsers. this seems to happen alot on sites like techspot.com. and other news sites.it does not happen on audiogames.net though URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483056/#p483056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I would love to post a bug report as well but the thing is, I don't know how to go about it. Let me explain my issue, then perhaps you guys can suggest how to word this report.On some wep pages when you reed something, NVDA is chopping off some of the text.let me give you a example.if you read in say all. with nvda and down arrow. this happens. if you use any other reading command, it does not happen.so here's a lign of text.first i'll right it out. the correct way NVDA reads it, then i'll right it out. the way the bug happens.This is my sample lign of text. it shows you how it will sound when nvda is not reading it correctly. It can happen on many wep pages but only on web pages.Now comes the same lign, but here's how nvda reeds it.This is my sample lign of text. of text, it shows you how it will sound ill sound, ound ound when nvda is not reading it orrectly. It can happen on many web pages ut only on web ages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483056/#p483056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy @23, if I'm interpreting the note from the MSDN correctly then hooks against 64-bit process from 32-bit processes could cause this kind of issue. I'm not a professional windows programmer though. Still doesn't excuse NVAccess from releasing a 64-bit build of NVDA -- all I've heard from them are excuses. They haven't even tried it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483013/#p483013 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy NVDA 2017.3 on bootcamp running win 10 199 works great for me. Every time I have tried updating, it makes the experience worse URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483004/#p483004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi.@Hijacker, I bought a pc a couple weeks back and had to reset it once and still have this problem from time to time so I don't know what's up with that.Hopefully as someone else said on here, NVDA's next version is better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482972/#p482972 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Well, first of all, x64 and x86 differences usually don't cause NVDA to trigger such effects. It should just work, just not the other way around, hooking x64 code into x86 programs won't work that well. Thats one of the reasons why NVDA is still x86, other than compatibility.Then, the problem doesn't seem to be originating from NVDA itself, but I experienced similar problems before after upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 10. It seems to be a problem originating from the upgrade process. The problem disappeared after reinstalling Windows 10 entirely new without Windows 7 involved in any way.Best Regards.Hijacker URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482965/#p482965 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Actually, I have heard that this speech delay bug is fixed in Python 3 releases. Cannot use them extensively yet as the remote addon is not ported and I use it often, but I certainly hope that is so. By the way, I call it speech delay simply because Mobile speak back in the Simmbian days actually had a setting called speech delay, which would be similar to this behaviour, except it was intended that way. I know,, everybody cares. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482927/#p482927 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy @19, I honestly have no idea why it would be giving you that error. I don't know NVDA so unfortunately can't give much info. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482920/#p482920 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
2019-12-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ashleygrobler04 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy well what ever the problem might be, i am sure that the next version of NVDA (2019.3) will be a lot better... i hope and think so! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482912/#p482912 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi, I looked through my log in debug mode and the only suspicious thing I found that happened right when it did this behavior we are talking about, is below. DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (19:24:59.862):oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 525918, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrectWhat does that mean? Also, the weird thing is that I was switching between two different 64bit apps, supposedly, gold wave and 7zip are both 64 bit, right? Never mind, just while looking through my processes to confirm that, when I returned to the window to continue writing this message, it happened again. DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (19:37:23.875):accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None)) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482905/#p482905 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy That could be it, I hadn't thought of the keyboard hooks just dying.Guys, just a friendly reminder that if you post debug logs, they record all of your keystrokes, so you should only put NVDA in debug mode after you've gotten past any password screens or after you've typed in any sensitive information, then reproduce the issue and put it back in info when you're done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482896/#p482896 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi.I'd recommend making a github account and posting to the NVDA page.Then we can all post to the same thread explaining our issues.@ethin I don't understand anything about 64 and 32 bit stuff but if most machines are running 64 bit versions of programs and that's the latest stuff then I agree that NVDA should be that way too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482894/#p482894 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
2019-12-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : vaibhavbhandari via Audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Sorry for dubble posting, but I have uploaded my nvda log file after restarting the NVDA in debug mode and finding the problem. The link to my log file is given below- https://drive.google.com/open?id=12pOWe … JGl90wfqy2 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482887/#p482887 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy @4, if your theory is correct, this is probably a very good explanation, and even more reason to make a 64-bit version of NVDA: "Because hooks run in the context of an application, they must match the "bitness" of the application. If a 32-bit application installs a global hook on 64-bit Windows, the 32-bit hook is injected into each 32-bit process (the usual security boundaries apply). In a 64-bit process, the threads are still marked as "hooked." However, because a 32-bit application must run the hook code, the system executes the hook in the hooking app's context; specifically, on the thread that called SetWindowsHookEx. This means that the hooking application must continue to pump messages or it might block the normal functioning of the 64-bit processes." (Source: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window … owshookexa.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482885/#p482885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy @4, if your theory is correct, this is probably a very good explanation, and even more reason to make a 64-bit version of NVDA: "Because hooks run in the context of an application, they must match the "bitness" of the application. If a 32-bit application installs a global hook on 64-bit Windows, the 32-bit hook is injected into each 32-bit process (the usual security boundaries apply). In a 64-bit process, the threads are still marked as "hooked." However, because a 32-bit application must run the hook code, the system executes the hook in the hooking app's context; specifically, on the thread that called SetWindowsHookEx. This means that the hooking application must continue to pump messages or it might block the normal functioning of the 64-bit processes." (Source: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window … owshookexa.) Also, NVAccess may wish to investigate IsWinEventHookInstalled. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482885/#p482885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy @4, if your theory is correct, this is probably a very good explanation, and even more reason to make a 64-bit version of NVDA: "Because hooks run in the context of an application, they must match the "bitness" of the application. If a 32-bit application installs a global hook on 64-bit Windows, the 32-bit hook is injected into each 32-bit process (the usual security boundaries apply). In a 64-bit process, the threads are still marked as "hooked." However, because a 32-bit application must run the hook code, the system executes the hook in the hooking app's context; specifically, on the thread that called SetWindowsHookEx. This means that the hooking application must continue to pump messages or it might block the normal functioning of the 64-bit processes." (Source: https/docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win … owshookexa.) Also, NVAccess may wish to investigate IsWinEventHookInstalled. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482885/#p482885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
2019-12-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : vaibhavbhandari via Audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I also have this problem. Previously, I thought that it was happening because of my downaero key being broken. It happened very frequently as post 1 alreaddy described. I have windows 1803. Right now I use my bluetooth keyboard and this problem happens rarely. I'll try to run portable NVDA and see what happens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482883/#p482883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi.I tried the jaws demo but couldn't stay with it for longer than 5 minutes. I'm so used to turning the volume down on my screen reader now that not being able to do it is annoying.I'll keep the demo on my system, I used to bash research it in the past but honestly, it's nice if you want to look up a word or something quick.I know I can change the volume in the settings on my computer somewhere but I don't want to do that, I'd like to change it in jaws but as far as I know; it can't be done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482877/#p482877 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi.I have an issue with NVDA where I'll be reading a page and NVDA will go quiet, waiting for 10 seconds up to a minute usually fixes this but it can get annoying.i'm using a lenovo pc with 4 gigs of ram so that might be it but I'm not sure.I'm buying a laptop in a couple of months with at least 16 gigs of ram so that might help, I'l see.I'm using eloquence is that helps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482872/#p482872 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Could it be the later versions of windows that cause this? I mean, I have windows 10 2016, and the latest version of nvda, and i'm not running into this URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482870/#p482870 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi, Thanks for your quick responses. the specs that I remember off the top of my head are a Core I5 8265U, 8gb of ram and a 256gb SSD. Thank god I don't have to deal with mechanical hard drives any more. This laptop is a fearly recent Lenovo Ideapad, i'm not sure of the model number, with a 14inch screen if that helps. As for performance, when I do manage to get into the task manager, I see that NVDA is not using that much out of the ordinary, so it's not anything abnormal in that regard. And for those who have the issue after something intensive, like 7zip archiving, it's unfortunately not just that. I could literally have started my computer a few minutes ago and already had to restart NVDA to get it to properly work again. My CPU could be at any level, even like 5% or something very low, it doesn't matter. And about the log. So all I do is change the loging info box to say debug, and when this occurs, does the log file get deleted after a restart? And where are they even stored in the first place? Maybe I should know this, it's just that I never had to send the log to anyone before. Edit, just realized that post 7 gave me the path to the log file and I didn't even notice. Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482867/#p482867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hi, Thanks for your quick responses. the specs that I remember off the top of my head are a Core I5 8265U, 8gb of ram and a 256gb SSD. Thank god I don't have to deal with mechanical hard drives any more. This laptop is a fearly recent Lenovo Ideapad, i'm not sure of the model number, with a 14inch screen if that helps. As for performance, when I do manage to get into the task manager, I see that NVDA is not using that much out of the ordinary, so it's not anything abnormal in that regard. And for those who have the issue after something intensive, like 7zip archiving, it's unfortunately not just that. I could literally have started my computer a few minutes ago and already had to restart NVDA to get it to properly work again. My CPU could be at any level, even like 5% or something very low, it doesn't matter. And about the log. So all I do is change the loging info box to say debug, and when this occurs, does the log file get deleted after a restart? And where are they even stored in the first place? Maybe I should know this, it's just that I never had to send the log to anyone before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482867/#p482867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I've had these issues as well with NVDA in the past.Sometimes I think my computer is running out of ram or is just hogging processor resources, only to find that NVDA is the problem after a restart.I never had this problem in win7 lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482864/#p482864 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I've had these issues as well with NVDA in the past.Sometimes I think my computer is just running out of ram or is just hogging processor resources, only to find that NVDA is the problem after a restart.I never had this problem in win7 lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482864/#p482864 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I still think that hardware could be playing a roll in this one, mind sharing your specs anyway?Windows 10 in a pre deploated state is becoming increasingly more punishing to run on lower power hardware than it used to be, also if you're running off a mechanical drive then just expect an unstable and bad time in general. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482851/#p482851 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy You know nvda 1903/20.1 is still in alpha right?This stuff is probably logged in %temp%\nvda.logyou need to put a git issue or send it to the nvda list, I can make the nvda list aware of your issue but you need to post the entire log or a fragment under nvda initialised there should be warnings, info error messages, etc.In nvda general settings set your debug to the highest level and give a debug log of things to.send the entire log if you wish.when I use say 7zip, its about the only program that will take my entire cpu power especially for big files.what is your system spec? and who makes it to that will be asked to.Sometimes after navigating through a lot of items in a firefox webpage things can get lost.if it does, you can hit windows d, tab to the system tray, scrol to nvda, right click it, hit exit, then do a winkey r and type nvda and it should restart.Its not happened for ages to me now but then I only run a single window or 2 at once.If I run to many windows, ie more than 3 when say viewing explorer folders on drives that explorer instance will crash if I then close all windows type explorer then explorer pops up then I close it then it works again usually.So far its my ownly gripe.As for the windows start menu thats not that bad to use default.The only thing I do have apart from some tweaks is ribbon disabler and a few winaero tweaker tweaks but its about it.I have got used to the start menu, but the ribbon I hate, everything else is fine.Usually I don't run massive programs all the time, if I want a responsive system I tend to not share cpu power with big programs that may take away from whatI am doing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482848/#p482848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy This happens to me most often when my system is responding slowly because I'm doing a lot of stuff with files over the network. For example, sometimes NotePad++ takes a second or two to respond after I alt-tab to it because the file it's loading is on a network drive. If I alt-tab to Notepad++ often enough, repeatedly triggering the one to two second hang, eventually I get the problem you're experiencing.Sometimes what you can do is press each of your modifier keys in turn to unstick them (alt, ctrl, windows, shift, and capslock,) but this doesn't always work. in my case reloading NVDA doesn't always solve the problem; I have to reboot my system (which gets really annoying because then I have to reopen all my windows!) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482842/#p482842 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I don't suppose running NVDA as administrator would help then? I didn't know this was the problem URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482840/#p482840 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy I don't think that is what is happening here. I rather believe NVDA's keyboard hook just dies. This should happen rarely, but it used to happen way more frequently for me as post 2 said on bad hardware. I can't say I've ever experienced it when opening apps though, that would be quite annoying indeed. But if admin rights are the issue, you can test that by using a portable copy of NVDA and seeing if the issue still occurs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482839/#p482839 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy The hardware has nothing to do with it. What seems to be happening is that NVDA is elevating itself to run in admin space for certain tasks then not de-escalating itself to run in normal user space after that is done.I have this too, but no where near as frequently as you. I'm not sure what makes this happen, like where the process goes awry. You may have to downgrade NVDA, but honestly, this has been an ongoing issue for quite some time, so whether that will have any effect is up in the air. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482834/#p482834 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
Re: An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy If you don't want to downgrade your nvda, downgrade to windows 10 1803. If you don't want to downgrade your windows, upgrade your computer. Allthough if it's specs are not bad, then i guess the only option is to downgrade windows/nvda. I never had this issue on my intel core I5 7300HQ 6GBram, and i never had this issue on my 4gb intel pentium horrible school laptop. It's not that horrible, but in comparison with my laptop which i'm using now it's just aww. And i'm using windows10 1803 and actively resisting 1909, though my friend at 1909 with his laptop specs which are comparable with my school laptop didn't have this issue as well. Maybe it's just a problem of your hardware, but i suppose it's very unlikely. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482828/#p482828 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy
An inexplicable NVDA issue that is starting to drive me crazy Hello everyone, So migrating from windows 7 to windows 10 and a new computer was not bad at all, I got used to most of it pretty quickly, except for the start menu, I use Open shell for that. But anyway, one thing that my old computer never did to me, is the issue i'm about to describe. This has been happening with every version of windows 10 starting from 1809 all the way up to 1909, and I think it has something to do with windows10 itself. There are a few different triggers to making this happen. Triggers like pressing alt tab and switching to a different application, or pressing windows +M to go to the desktop, or any kind of window switching at all, even automatic, like when you open an application by pressing enter on it. What happens after this is the annoying part. Firstly NVDA's speech interrupt is broken. It reads everythingg from start to end, and you can't press control to stop the speech either. The second thing is that any NVDA commands are simply ignored. This also means that text documents just freeze in place, along with webpages, and you can't read them at all. So, it doesn't seam like a big deal, does it? Well, restarting NVDA does solve the issue, but not for long. Sometimes I even had to restart NVDA once every minute just because I opened the windows 10 settings app or the task manager. In fact, the task manager always causes this to happen no matter what, as far as I could gather. So, obviously, I want to get rid of this. I don't like alternatives of just downgrading to an earlier version of NVDA like zarvox is doing, i just like my things up to date. I also especially like the new advanced browse mode system focus thing that got introduced in the newer versions of NVDA. I don't want to go back to the way it used to be, having to press down arrow many many more times than needed just to go down a webpage, but that's besides the point. I also tried disabling all the addons, and unfortunately it may have made it less frequent, but didn't make it go away completely. If I wanted to run a version of NVDA without any addons constantly, I would have to right click on the icon on the taskbar, remember, because the modifier doesn't work, then select restart with addons disabled every time instead of just using ctrl+alt+N. I also tried using Narrator for a few things, and came to the conclusion that it's still not ready for day to day use, especially not when it comes to web browsing, although maybe that's because I wasn't using Microsoft edge... So, what can I try that may help besides what I already tried? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/482824/#p482824 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
