Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Please, give me time though. Things are getting busier in real life for me. Keep posting in here though in case things get so busy that I forget. I will try to keep you all updated on progress once I start. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/535370/#p535370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic That's much appreciated, thanks for the work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/535131/#p535131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Nidza is correct about my first post.I kind of wanted that version to be a sort of at a glance, tracker, style version.I suppose, I still might be able to set that up. When I get more time, I'll be happy to try to maintain this, I'll go through everything myself. This way everybody wins. After the maintaining, I will need to make sure to keep on updating as other staff members add to the topic.The hardest part is going to be getting the post up to date, I may have to start from scratch, removing the people I know are no longer banned, and going from there. I do not know if it will ever be fully complete, but I will try to at least make it more current. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/535103/#p535103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Same for me, I won't be arguing further since it's pointless. I will only tell you that could have and should have are two different things, and when someone tells you that you could do something, it is by no means an obligation to do that, nor is that someone feeling entitled to anything.Your forum, your rules. Aaron nicely explained in his first post of the topic we are talking about that on some other forums, you can easily find out whether someone has any warnings as that can be listed in their profile. This is impossible here due to the fact it needs the presence of webmasters, thus the logic of the warnings being listed in the first post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/534711/#p534711 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic It takes more than one person to argue. If you want to blame me for arguing this point, go ahead, but feel free to ascribe blame to everyone else, including yourself, who is pushing a point even after hearing an answer they didn't like.As far as I'm concerned, I owe you nothing else on this specific topic. I do have to be a bit better about updating warnings, as I occasionally get pulled away and forget that I haven't updated the punishment thread. I will work on being better about that, because that is unprofessional. Beyond that, though, I feel that by providing the information without any significant access barriers, we've fulfilled all possible obligations to you. Just because it isn't presented in precisely the way you wish it were does not constitute sufficient reason to bring this point up whenever you need a hobby-horse to flog. When you essentially say "you could've spent that time doing what I wanted", you just sound entitled. When you try and over-represent the problem by suggesting that a person has to dig through the whole of a multi-page thread to get the info they seek, you're just making yourself look bad...and yes, also entitled. Overrepresentation and misrepresentation are nothing new from you, so I can't say I'm exactly surprised. The shoe fits, wear it. You're salty that you aren't getting your way and so you're trying to make me look bad by disagreeing with you.I'm thoroughly done here. The only response you will see from me in this thread will be in direct response to a rule violation. I have proven my points far beyond any further need to justify them, to you or to anyone. If taking two and a half minutes to find out information is too onerous a task for you, then clearly you don't want the information badly enough to obtain it after all. Seriously, get over yourself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/534706/#p534706 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Oh well, that sucks. The 5 minutes you spend prooving your points on this topic you can spend removing the list from that first post then, or at least discussing with the rest of the team if you don't want to do it on your own. Yes, as odd as this might seem, the argument of this topic is whether a single post should be edited or not. We have reached the conclusion that if someone wants to find out how many warnings they actually have, the best thing to do is read through one entire topic, because Jayde isn't convinced enough to write in the first post X, 2 warnings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/534562/#p534562 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic It takes less than thirty seconds to go to the last page of the topic and read recent decisions.It takes less than thirty seconds to read the first post in the thread.If all you had to do was keep up with the thread, and not read the first post, then you can do that if you wish, as you wish.Sorry, still not convinced that updating the first post with a running tally of who's got warnings and bans and whatnot makes any sense. The info is here for you to look at. If it means you have to read the last few posts in the thread instead of just looking at the first one, I see no problem with this. It's not as if the thread grows exponentially every day. It's not as if tracking its progress is difficult. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/534547/#p534547 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-28
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I agree, the first post needs to be axed. Also yeah, some things stated under the "moderation!" flag in a post is not always put into that topic, good thing its not being updated a hole lot as that would be bad. I think, with a forum with, let me see, how many registered users? 200358? ah, ok, so its small but some furms are much smaller. then, lets takes that amount of users, 200358, and then you have how many of those posts are made for individual people, not many sense a lot of them, not including the first post, are either finding and banning alts of other users, or multiple warnings/cautions or ban increasings for a user. So its not like the mods are going around finding random people out of 200358 and smacking them in the face with a hammer and saying oy, we're going ot put this here because we hate you. Things are done for reason, even if i don't agree with there reasioning, its a reason. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/534364/#p534364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Another problem is that not even the topic on it's own is updated regularly.i noticed that especially when Jayde gives out moderation decisions, these are sometimes not noted in the topic at all.this is something that needs to be worked on.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532236/#p532236 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Jayde, the first post is so both modern and user alike can keep track of moderation actions.I know you probably like reading, so here's an exampleThe first post can be the reference, bibliography, etc. While the rest is the actual book.The annoying thing is how long I reached out to you guys and it's been swept under the carpet URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532116/#p532116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Yeah, but one of those places is much faster to check then the other, while the other is checked regularly by some but obviously not all. It's much easier to see a summary in the first post, while it also makes sense to post a new one when something happens since otherwise it's not like people will check regularly the first post for updates. Honestly it's not even taking up too much time to do in my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532104/#p532104 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic The fact that two things are done instead of one, when all that's needed is one.It's all in the same thread. It's still being updated pretty regularly (sometimes we forget, but that'd apply to either one). Basically, two different places to look is just redundant, and there is no good reason to establish this habit. It is makework. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532101/#p532101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic The fact that two things are done instead of one, when all that's needed is one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532101/#p532101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Thing is, now it does, but next year the thread might be a lot larger. I'm not sure what is so hard in updating two posts every time someone is warned or banned. It's just a habit that needs to be developed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532097/#p532097 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Frankly, the thread doesn't grow so fast that it's impossible to keep up with.I'd say axe or update the first post so it doesn't contain a current list. It's not needed. If folks want to know, it takes less than five minutes to go through and look at who was warned/banned when. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532095/#p532095 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I'd rather you update the thing like you should have months ago.If it's actually impossible to do so now though, than yes I'd ax it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/532042/#p532042 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Would you guys rather that I got rid of the first log then and just kept the topic to posts only? It might make it less confusing for everyone, but also that would mean there won't be any way to find out at a glance what's happening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/531933/#p531933 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Yeah that's an issue. I agree. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/531065/#p531065 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-05-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic yeah the first post is still not updated URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/531060/#p531060 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic @Jayde that's a very interesting point.I mostly did this in case people preferred to read the top part as a sort of general summary as to what's going on at that exact moment, so as punishments were lifted the intent was to remove them.If people would prefer that I just get rid of that log, I can definitely do that particularly as I did forget to update. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522181/#p522181 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Honestly, I've come to believe that the best way to follow through on this is to eliminate a current list of bans from the top post. As long as punishments are kept up to date within that thread - which they mostly are, but occasionally are not - that's enough info.For instance, if I scroll down to page 5 and see that so-and-so got banned on May 1 for six months, I don't also need a reminder in post 1. In fact, speaking personally, I don't tend to read the first post in a thread, but rather intend to stay up to date by reading new posts as they arise.So my take on it is to keep doing what we're doing and to simply get rid of the punishment list in post 1. Why have two separate measures that have to be tracked, in the same freaking thread? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521793/#p521793 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I've been following every single post in this topic, and I checked the top log yesterday and yep, I think it's out of date. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521018/#p521018 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-20
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Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Last time I looked, my ban wasn't ever even announced. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521004/#p521004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-19
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Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic As I knew that that topic wasn't gunna be stayed up to date for long anyways, some stuff are inaccurate here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520773/#p520773 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic That too. So yeah I feel like Jade/Carter/etc need to go through and update the logsince I can definitely see somebody saying yeah but the topic in question is buried and it isn't in the log so you can't do shit type stuff when the admins hand out punishments. After all the whole idea of the log was to avoid stuff like this so yeah it needs updating really, really, ASAP. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520525/#p520525 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I only express my reproachal of the disciplinary topic in the fact that they still list me and Mason as banned. As well as mstuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520446/#p520446 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic So, I've done a quick sniff around. There's absolutely mod actions that haven't been put in the log as of writing this post. I'd like to see that addressed annd everything squared away. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520402/#p520402 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jaseoffire via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic First a bit off topic, another funny main post into signature transition for post 5. Now, as my point, I think all and all, it is good to have that log in addition to keeping mod accountability. It also keeps community accountability. In the end, we all kind of got what we needed out of that. As drums said, we can get an idea of how we've been doing not going off the deep end. I've been checking that topic every day to see how things are going on the forum. Each day I don't see an update means the forum has been mostly civil for that day. Honestly, if we all took it day by day of not breaking the rules we'd be in good shape. That being said, that's not always possible. For example, I wonder how many of those posts are alt bustings, which means many of those would be dealing with the same person. Actually, someone should actually run the stats on the logs. Maybe we can pull together a glimpse of what we as a community need to work on. That might make it easier on both community and mod team to see what's working and what isn't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519599/#p519599 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Warnings are generally handed out more freely here than they are on many forums, who only really care about serious hate speech, consistent cyber bullying, spam, and copyright breakage. Half of that stuff they wouldn't even moderate if they didn't need to to cover their asses legally.And with the average age range of the forum now? I mean it's not good, but neither is it shocking, and as you said your self, you didn't do the math, so in my opinion, your conclusions don't mean allot.Unless you've got some comparisons to other similar communities on hand, it's just a feeling you've got, which is fare enough but not really concerning to me personally.Do you have any ideas on how we can improve things? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518825/#p518825 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Warnings are generally handed out more freely here than they are on many forums, who only really care about serious hate speech, consistent cyber bullying, spam, and copyright breakage. Half of that stuff they wouldn't even moderate if they didn't need to to cover their asses legally.And with the average age range of the forum now? I mean it's not good, but neither is it shocking, and as you said your self, you didn't do the math, so in my opinion, your conclusions don't mean allot.Unless you've got some useful comparisons to other communities on hand, it's just a feeling you've got, which is fare enough but not really concerning to me personally. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518825/#p518825 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : drums61999 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I didn't do math. I just looked at the post count and said that 76 posts over 52 weeks a year is a lot. The point still stands that for a community this small that is a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518788/#p518788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic I'm disappointed that the ban log is outdated. I PMed Erin about it a while now and they haven't fixed it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518256/#p518256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic If you noticed, certain events cause increased moderation. For example, Sam's topic, and a feww other drama events after Its rather quiet at the moment, so thank god for that. e're improving. And your math is off. Because sometimes the mods double post like in the case of Jonikster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518254/#p518254 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic
2020-04-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : drums61999 via Audiogames-reflector
Disappointed in the state of the record of disciplinary action topic Well, the public record of disciplinary action topic has been around for a year now. It is on its fourth page, and has 78 posts.That is around 1.5 posts a week. For as small as the community is, it seems like quite a lot, and while I'm not surprised, I had hoped for better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/516429/#p516429 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
