Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. While I'm sure that these cases have nothing in common over all, but it still reminds me of the case between google and oracle.I haven't gotten any updates regarding that since May. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571481/#p571481 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I suspect that the court will throw this out; the internet archive has content specifically for archival purposes only, and it is not a violation of copyright law to archive copyrighted material. Plus, the open library and the national emergency library are libraries. Publishers have no business suing a corporation like the IA that have worked tirelessly to archive content that would otherwise have been lost forever. This is pretty much an attempt at more money and an attempt to destroy history. IMO, these publishers should face huge legal consequences. Especially since the IA has helped government entities (library of congress, much?). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571444/#p571444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I suspect that the court will throw this out; the internet archive has content specifically for archival purposes only, and it is not a violation of copyright law to archive copyrighted material. Plus, the open library and the national emergency library are libraries. Publishers have no business suing a corporation like the IA that have worked tirelessly to archive content that would otherwise have been lost forever. This is pretty much an attempt at more money and an attempt to destroy history. IMO, these publishers should be legally destroyed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571444/#p571444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I suspect that the court will throw this out; the internet archive has content specifically for archival purposes only, and it is not a violation of copyright law to archive copyrighted material. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571444/#p571444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
2020-09-16
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Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. So is there nothing we can do? O and we already have a netflix for books. Its called audible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571434/#p571434 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I don't like it. This is an example of just how bad things have gotten. Time will tell what happens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571425/#p571425 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. It will be interesting to see how this all comes out in the end. If internet archive should lose this case, then that'll just be one more bit of proof that the legal system is of little value any longer, especially if it turns out that there is literally no proof of guilt here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571424/#p571424 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. i agree with all of you URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571405/#p571405 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. @Accman: You'd be right from a logical standpoint, however in a world where logic is nonexistent, you can't hold on to this as strongly as you might think. Is there the possibility it could be an open and shut case? Sure. But it's this kind of complacency that gets us in trouble, oh, the court's gonna throw it out, no big deal. The court is going to bale out corporation before benevolent entities or individuals. Because there is corporate interest and lobbying in the legal department. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571402/#p571402 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I could be wrong, but I don't think that this case is going to hold up in court when all is said and done because, as was previously said here, there is no proof they were doing anything illegal. I also do agree that it is actions like this that causes people to go and download things illegally in the first place. This same thing hold true for the music industry. The artists get a very low percentage of the profits on the albums that they sell because the bulk of those profits go to the record labels. That's why artists have to tour for most of the year. If they didn't they wouldn't be able to go very far on the profits they actually get from sales. Also, the internet archive has never sold anything that they offer. If they were doing that, then I'd have to say that there would be a very strong case. However, since they are not then they can't be nailed for that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571383/#p571383 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. They don't need more money. THey already skim profits off the authors anyway. They're just being money-hungry for the sake of it. And for the legal protections arms-race ofcourse.There's is absolutely no justification for, quote, scanning books illegally. IT's the same way people have said if the RIAA could make you pay royalties to sing along to a song in private they would. They do not go by the letter of the law, or they cherry-pick what to embellish on existing broken copyright law. And creative commons is only part of the solution, since big media would like creative commons destroyed as well. All they're trying to do is shove the probe up the ass of anyone who even dares to suggest content freedom and preservation.You can't even use the argument of well authors/artists need to make a living, because they only would be if they were to actually retain! the money that is being collected through sales. Being as most of it goes to the publishers minus independent books/music which people have historically paid more than the asking price for due to the fact that they know the money is going to the creators directly. That also throws out the argument about piracy being the key issue here, because there are not many who willingly pirates independent content like they do drm-laden corporate-backed content. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571351/#p571351 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. They don't need more money. THey already skim profits off the authors anyway. They're just being money-hungry for the sake of it. And for the legal protections arms-race ofcourse.There's is absolutely no justification for, quote, scanning books illegally. IT's the same way people have said if the RIAA could make you pay royalties to sing along to a song in private they would. They do not go by the letter of the law, or they cherry-pick what to embellish on existing broken copyright law. And creative commons is only part of the solution, since big media would like creative commons destroyed as well. All they're trying to do is shove the probe up the ass of anyone who even dares to suggest content freedom and preservation.You can't even use the argument of well authors/artists need to make a living, because they only would be if they were to actually retain! the money that is being collected through sales. Being as most of it goes to the publishers minus independent books/music which people have historically paid more than the asking price for due to the fact that they know the money is going to the creators directly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571351/#p571351 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. They don't need more money. THey already skim profits off the authors anyway. They're just being money-hungry for the sake of it. And for the legal protections arms-race ofcourse.There's is absolutely no justification for, quote, scanning books illegally. IT's the same way people have said if the RIAA could make you pay royalties to sing along to a song in private they would. They do not go by the letter of the law, or they cherry-pick what to embellish on existing broken copyright law. And creative commons is only part of the solution, since big media would like creative commons destroyed as well. All they're trying to do is shove the probe up the ass of anyone who even dares to suggest content freedom and preservation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571351/#p571351 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. And this is probably one thing that fuels piracy today. Corporations and such being money hungry. Although, I do have to wonder whether publishers actually need more money or if they're just being money hungry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571335/#p571335 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. Yep I agree it's not good. I understand them worrying about new material, but archive.org has a lot of what I would call abandoned ware that companies are never ever gonna call that. It was only a matter of time though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571331/#p571331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Re: Internet Archive sued by the publishers. NOt good. Considering that sometimes, you can buy a digital book and it's not accessible, or has drm. A lot of the internet archive's stuff is, well, for archival, not copyright, purposes, and where is the proof that they scan books illegally? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571326/#p571326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Internet Archive sued by the publishers.
Internet Archive sued by the publishers. I really didn't wanted to do this, but I do feel that people should pay attention to these kinds of things.https://www.thenation.com/article/socie … -to-court/If you didn't wanted to read the article, here's a summary taken from the article itself.In a lawsuit against the Internet Archive, the largest corporations in publishing want to change what it means to own a book.What do you think about this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/571302/#p571302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
