Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Ghaith via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion @8 Yes, you can download games or dlc’s from the game’s page, and as long as your switch is connected to the internet, the game/dlc will remotely be downloaded, that's how I go with purchasing games if i didn't go with the process to call any other sighted people to help me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620365/#p620365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion All fair points, and it's up to the individual. There just aren't enough exclusives on xbox right now to catch my attention, and there weren't on the xbox1 either. The only one that seriously caught my attention was Killer Instinct, which is now on PC. And as of yet, I don't know of any game that's used the screen readers on either consoles as their main means of accessibility. But I personally won't get both until such time as I see a good reason to.As for Nintendo, I'm in complete agreement here, but it seems like they just haven't seen the need to care yet and never really have. So until they do, they won't be geting any of my money which is, I know, kind of circular since that won't be any encouragement to pay more attention, either. But I've always been happy with one console anyway, and now that I have a gaming PC that can handle most odern games, I don't really have a particular reason to get an xbox. My ps4 library, however, definitely gives me reason to buy a ps5. lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620316/#p620316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). Add to that the fact that with Windows there are multiple screen readers that approach accessibility in different ways, and it makes it much messier for developers to add support, whereas with the consoles, they can add support for the screen reader built into the operating system. I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude, especially because that attitude will inevitably trickle down to the developers of games for that platform. If companies like MS and Sony embrace accessibility, then it stands to reason that over time, developers of games for those platforms will begin to as well. We're starting to see that in titles for Xbox and PS now. Just to name a couple, Madden, TLU2, and from what I understand, Ubisoft has begun to look at accessibility seriously. I can't help but feel that Nintendo's refusal to even consider accessibility makes it much less likely that developers for their platform will ever consider it in their games, especially since they don't have any type of foundation to work from the way that MS and Sony game developers do. That mindset is not one that I am willing to foster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). Add to that the fact that with Windows there are multiple screen readers that approach accessibility in different ways, and it makes it much messier for developers to add support, whereas with the consoles, they can add support for the screen reader built into the operating system. I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude, especially because that attitude will inevitably trickle down to the developers of games for that platform. If companies like MS and Sony embrace accessibility, then it stands to reason that over time, developers of games for those platforms will begin to as well. We're starting to see that in titles for Xbox and PS now. Just to name a couple, Madden, TLU2, and from what I understand, Ubisoft has begun to look at accessibility seriously. I can't help but feel that Nintendo's refusal to even consider accessibility makes it much less likely that developers for their platform will consider it in their games. That mindset is not one that I am willing to foster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). Add to that the fact that with Windows there are multiple screen readers that approach accessibility in different ways, and it makes it much messier for developers to add support, whereas with the consoles, they can add support for the screen reader built into the operating system. I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude, especially because that attitude will trickle down to the developers of games for that platform. If companies like MS and Sony embrace accessibility, then it stands to reason that over time, developers of games for those platforms will begin to as well. We're starting to see that in titles for Xbox and PS now. Just to name a couple, Madden, TLU2, and from what I understand, Ubisoft has begun to look at accessibility seriously. I can't help but feel that Nintendo's refusal to even consider accessibility makes it much less likely that developers for their platform will consider it in their games. That mindset is not one that I am willing to foster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). Add to that the fact that with Windows there are multiple screen readers that approach accessibility in different ways, and it makes it much messier for developers to add support, whereas with the consoles, they can add support for the screen reader built into the operating system. I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude, especially because that attitude will trickle down to the developers of games for that platform. If a company like MS and Sony embrace accessibility, then it stands to reason that over time, developers of games for those platforms will begin to as well. We're starting to see that in titles for Xbox and PS now. Just to name a couple, Madden, TLU2, and from what I understand, Ubisoft has begun to look at accessibility seriously. I can't help but feel that Nintendo's refusal to even consider accessibility makes it much less likely that developers for their platform will consider it in their games. That mindset is not one that I am willing to foster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude, especially because that attitude will trickle down to the developers of games for that platform. If a company like MS and Sony embrace accessibility, then it stands to reason that over time, developers of games for those platforms will begin to as well. We're starting to see that in titles for Xbox and PS now. Just to name a couple, Madden, TLU2, and from what I understand, Ubisoft has begun to look at accessibility seriously. I can't help but feel that Nintendo's refusal to even consider accessibility makes it much less likely that developers for their platform will consider it in their games. That mindset is not one that I am willing to foster. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader. I did it as a child, owning the NES, SNES, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, an Atari, a Genesis, and a couple of others as a young adult. but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
Re: Console opinion I personally will get both consoles in the future, because some games will inevitably be XBox or PS exclusive, and that way I'll be able to play them no matter which exclusive console they're for. While I agree that the games might be also available on PC in the future, you run the risk that accessibility features built into the console versions of games won't be added to the PC version. (Madden is a prime example of this). I've got a PC that can handle games, and if one comes out that's playable on PC, great. But I like the freedom that having both consoles affords me.As for the switch, I don't have a problem using a console without a screen reader, but by the same token, having screen reader access is a huge help, and I also feel that Nintendo should catch up with their competitors that have actually begun to view accessibility in a better light. The mentality of, "fuck you and fuck accessibility" just doesn't fly anymore, and I'm not particularly interested in rewarding that attitude. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620307/#p620307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sightlessHorseman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion Hmm well, I don't see myself buying a switch in the near future. As far as I can see, there are not that many games that I could play on other systems like the PC or the PS5 that I already own.Unless though, you can tell me a minimum of 5 playable games that I can't get on any other system, then I might consider.I know animal crossing, but that's the only one.And apparently Mario Cart 8 with smart steering.So, tell me 5 or more games that are doable.Greetings moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620270/#p620270 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion The switch is a great system. You can indeed buy games on the website and download them, as is standard for consoles. Also add to it miitopia, which is a 100 percent playable rpg coming to switch. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620244/#p620244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion I'd considered getting a Switch but I won't. I don't want a console where I can't even get past system setup URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620195/#p620195 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion Sony may start to put their games on to pc now if recent reports are anything to go by. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620188/#p620188 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Console opinion I'll never recommend Switch. Not only is it the only console that still doesn't have a screen reader, but Nintendo has not shown the slightest interest in accessibility in any of their games or consoles.Yes, you can use a console without a screen reader, we've done that for years. However, in my opinion, we should support companies that do show real interest to we can access their products, and criticize those that don't.As for getting PS5 and Xbox Series, I'm trying to get the first. PS exclusive games do not usually reach PC, while Xbox games do. So ,with a PS5 and a powerful PC you could play the games of both platforms. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620178/#p620178 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion What would you usea screen reader for on switch? I'd argue there is quite a few of us who play without them. If you buy physical games exclusively then you'll be fine. I'm not sure if Nintendo lets you buy their eshop games online and download them remotely, but its a big plus for me if they did. I don't generally game online so the lack of a screen reader for that purpose don't bother me too much, but your opinion may be different if you do. I just think that you'll cut down your options if you let the lack of a screen reader be a determining factor when deciding what consoles you play as there are workarounds if the interface is easy to use and there are key click sounds, but being able to game with others online and being able to access the eshop is a valid concern. If you habe a pair of working eyes around to help you, this should be less of an issue, but ultimately, its your call to make.Personally, I prefer the ps3 user interface over that of the ps4 because things were so much more organized, game icons didn't move around and you could do so much more with it, but as mentioned earlier, the ps3 didn't have a screen reader. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620175/#p620175 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Sightless Kombat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion @1I'd highly recommend the Series S for speed and general loading times over anything older on the Xbox side of things. As for playing said titles on PC, I wouldn't recommend it as OCR can be a real pain to get working in my experience.@3I personally steer away from recommending people to look into the Switch, as Nintendo have arguably done nothing to encourage gamers without sight to justify the price point. If they suddenly turn round and start making fully accessible titles, or adding a screen reader of any kind into the firmware then maybe I'll reconsider.@6Whether people did get on fine without a screen reader on consoles, I'd say, is only partially relevant as you can now play a large amount of the games on newer platforms with greater accessibility. Yes there might still be people wanting to use those platforms in the future to play the minority of titles that aren't available on newer systems, but again that will be a smaller amount of individuals not just because of the lack of accessibility, but also the lack of new units of hardware being produced for those consoles. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620153/#p620153 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Sightless Kombat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion @1I'd highly recommend the Series S for speed and general loading times over anything older on the Xbox side of things. As for playing said titles on PC, I wouldn't recommend it as OCR can be a real pain to get working in my experience.@3I personally steer away from recommending people to look into the Switch, as Nintendo have arguablydone nothing to encourage gamers without sight to justify the price point. If they suddenly turn round and start making fully accessible titles, or adding a screen reader of any kind into the firmware then maybe I'll reconsider.@6Whether people did get on fine without a screen reader on consoles, I'd say, is only partially relevant as you can now play a large amount of the games on newer platforms with greater accessibility. Yes there might still be people wanting to use those platforms in the future to play the minority of titles that aren't available on newer systems, but again that will be a smaller amount of individuals not just because fo the lack of accessibility, but also the lack of new units of hardware being produced for those consoles. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620153/#p620153 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion People have been playing mainstream games on mainstream consoles long before screen readers existed. The ps3 didn't have a screen reader, neither did the xbox360, wii, DS, etc. But people have been able to use them just fine all the same. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620104/#p620104 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mmaslo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion The only problem with switch is it does not have a screen reader so it is harder for a totally blind person use it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620093/#p620093 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion True point. Also, you can't get Nintendo exclusives on any other platform whereas like I said, most exclusives on xbox or ps5 will eventually show up on pc. This assumes, of course, your PC is capable of handling modern games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620075/#p620075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion Assuming you already got a pc, I would go for a switch since Nintendo exclusives are unlike anything from Sony or Microsoft, but thats just me . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620057/#p620057 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion
2021-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Console opinion Not in my opinion. Which you want to buy is your personal preference, and especially with the amount of Xbox exclusives that also see the light on pc, I would stick with one console and get a gaming PC instead. At least, that's the route I'm personally taking. Won't be getting a ps5 for another few months yet, but I don't plan on getting both unless there's a very compelling reason. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620049/#p620049 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
