Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question This also doesn't happen on 32-bit builds of NOtepad++. (The Scintilla code is messed up and needs a serious rewrite.) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442209/#p442209 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hello,So, I don't have this issue because I am using NVDA 2019.2 beta?Regards,Amit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442197/#p442197 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Ah that, fixed for the next NVDA version. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9609 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442191/#p442191 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question @32, I have notepad++ 7.7 and it freezes NVDA when it gains focus. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442185/#p442185 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hello,If I turn off line numbers, it does announce indentation. But then it doesnt say line numbers. Does it still say line numbers in your case?And Ethin, I have notepad++ 7.7, it works with both NVDA and JAWS.Regards,Amit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442172/#p442172 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question hej @ethin,it works with latest Jaws like charm, the only thing which fails to work is the indentation URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442116/#p442116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question The latest Notepad++ update broke something huge; Narrator and NVDA fail to function with them (and) supposedly JAWS doesn't either. I'm talking about NOtepad++ 7.7. Not sure what they broke but they broke something major. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442095/#p442095 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question That's indeed strange. As soon as I pressed JAWSKEY+V and set "Indentation" to "Indicate" in Notepad++, JAWS started announcing the indentation.One thing you can try is turning off line numbers in Notepad++ if you have them on. This used to interfere with NVDA's announcement of indentation too.1. Open Notepad++'s Preferences by selecting Tools->Preferences2. Go down to the "Editing" tab.3. Uncheck the box "Display line number."4. Click "Close." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/442003/#p442003 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hello,It works. When I press home, it indeed says the first character, but it still doesn't announce any indentation. Like in simple notepad, it says 4 spaces, 8 spaces etc etc. Regards,Amit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441885/#p441885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hi,1. Open Notepad++2. Press JAWSKEY+F2 to bring up the managers list.3. Go down to Script Manager and press ENTER. The Notepad++ Script Manager will load.4. Paste the script into the manager and press CTRL+S to compile.JAWS associates scripts with the application name, so the Notepad++ scripts file is called Notepad++.jss.6. Type something like pressing tab twice and then some text. When you press Home to return to the beginning of the line, JAWS should announce the character you land on.7. If it doesn't, you need to assign a key to the script. Put your cursor after the line Script JAWSHome(), and press CTRL+D. This will bring up the Script documentation dialog.8. Press TAB until you get to the Assign To box, and press Home, then press ENTER.9. Press CTRL+S to compile again. Now the script is associated with the HOME key in Notepad++. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441764/#p441764 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hello,I've selected indent indicate but it still doesn't work with notepad++. But it works with notepad. Also, how do I install the script? here's what I did. I went into the scripts folder, made a new file called JAWSHome.jss, pasted your code there and saved it. Opened the script manager, opened the JAWSHome.jss file and pressed ctrl+s to compile and JAWS said "compile complete". Am I doing something wrong here or have I missed something?Regards,Amit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441661/#p441661 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hi,Press JAWSKEY+V then select "Indent Indicate."Also, here is an additional script that will enhance the FS-provided support for Notepad++. It will speak the character your cursor is on when you press Home. Notepad++, and many other editors, do this thing where pressing Home will either land you on the beginning of the line or on the first character after the indentation. So now JAWS can tell you if you're on an indent character or actually at the start of your code.; This script MUST be named JAWSHome for the default documentation to take effect. Script JAWSHome () PerformScript JAWSHome(); Perform default Home action. SayCharacter(); Simply speak the current character. EndScript URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441534/#p441534 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hello,How do I make it speak the indentation? it's not speaking any indentation in notepad++ even if I go in jaws settings center and select the say indentation characters etc.Regards,Amit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441417/#p441417 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I am loving the new speech support! I use Notepad++ to write Markdown, but I am not sure what they did, my braille display no longer works reliably. My braille cursor no-longer follows speech, and the routing keys drop you in random places.i emailed tech support; I hope FS will fix braille support soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441300/#p441300 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question @flackers Exactly. Those scripts took days of me observing how JAWS is seeing the PuTTY window and all that. It was pretty involved and, I must say, a great moment for me when they started working reliably.Even PuTTY themselves linked to my scripts on their third-party downloads page So JAWS did have PuTTY support for a long time, it's that it just wasn't FS-provided support. In fact when I first installed this version of JAWS my PuTTY was double-speaking, and I remembered at that point I had my scripts installed. LOL.@nuno69 You're welcome man and I'm glad they were helping people! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441266/#p441266 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Yeah, and read the reference. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441211/#p441211 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question How do most people learn JAWS scripting anyway? Just go through the manual? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441183/#p441183 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I made the point it was a shame when something you create and are happy with is no longer needed. I just think we develop a slight emotional attachment to stuff we make if it does its job well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/441107/#p441107 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Sorry, what's the shame there exactly? Less scripts to install is only good for users, and especially for Jaws newbies. I will go ahead and tell you right away that I did not even know such scripts existed, since I did not know of a central resource to get them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440992/#p440992 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question No, they are slightly different, not very much, but there are some subtle differences. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440978/#p440978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I wonder if freedom just copied them. Yes, it is ashame. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440967/#p440967 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question You are right @flackers, but on the other hand, we've got the needed tool natively, Freedom's script is very much the same stuff as Munawar wrote. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440929/#p440929 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question It's funny: scripts involve creativity, so they're kind of like little artistic expressions. It really is a shame when something you invested your creative energy in becomes unnecessary and you have to scrap it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440885/#p440885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Yeah I see Munawar. Lol, stuff happens, these scripts served me for a while, so yeah. thanks man. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440880/#p440880 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Finally they fixed some things that needed to be done for a good while now. I have been in a SSH and notepad++ mood lately. Why didn’t they fix this over five years ago...Quick editWill apply the update today sence they are currently getting $90 of my own money for this year worth of JAWS. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440844/#p440844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Finally they fixed some things that needed to be done for a good while now. I have been in a SSH and notepad++ mood lately. Why didn’t they fix this over five years ago... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440844/#p440844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I just installed the latest JAWS update and, as advertised, JAWS is working really with Notepad++ now. It even accurately announces indentation (which is great, because I love the way JAWS announces indents in a different voice.)You're correct about PuTTY. I do see on their page that JAWS works with PuTTY now. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm glad that JAWS finally caught up to NVDA in this regard.But... my PuTTY scripts URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440836/#p440836 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I also got info, that Putty will work out of teh box! Avesomeness! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440324/#p440324 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Appropriate setting=Preferences->Editing->Display line number. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440175/#p440175 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question NVDA reads line numbers if you enable the appropriate option in document formatting settings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440170/#p440170 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I have actually been relying on JAWS for NPP, because it reads the line numbers unlike NVDA, although it doesn't echo selected text, but this update sounds awesome.T-m URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440163/#p440163 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hey, this is great news! If indentation also works without the custom scripts, I can use JAWS full-time. Like you, this was my only holdup.Thanks for the update. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440144/#p440144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Hey @Munawar,I have contacted the FS Line of boredom about the NPP problem, and... their response satisfied me. Here it is:I asked my self the same question a couple of months ago. This is why in the JAWS update which should release later this week, we’ve added proper Notepad++ support. In addition to basic editing features:• If line numbers are being shown, JAWS speaks them and shows them in Braille.• JAWS speaks and Brailles autocomplete suggestions• Contracted Braille input works properly.If after trying this you notice problems or find things that still aren’t working as expected, please let us know.Thanks--GlenGlen GordonVispero™ | Software Fellow17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764T 727-803-8000 F 727-803-8001ggor...@vispero.comwww.vispero.comFrom: nuno...@poczta.fm Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 5:52 AMTo: FSCast Subject: FS CastHello!How comes, that Jaws – the most professional screenreader currently available for Windows does not support the Notepad Plus Plus editor? I am 100% sure there are still people who use that editor fro coding, or even just text reading. That’s really much of a pity, because JAWS is really great, but this quirk leaves me, as a programmer to use the alternative which should not be mentioned.I hope you will read my message and fix it!Regards,N. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/440140/#p440140 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question I'm no jaws expert, or even a jwas user, for that matter but i believe jaws has an npp script. Do you have that installed? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439912/#p439912 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Ah I see. That's why I still keep NVDA. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439888/#p439888 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question
Re: Jaws and Notepad Plus plus - a question Yup, JAWS needs some serious work in the editor. I've switched back to NVDA only because of JAWS' poor Notepad++ support and am planning to bring this up at the next FS Open Line, that how come JAWS sees no love in Notepad++? Surely there are JAWS coders also that use Notepad++.I'll take a look at selection announcement if I can find some time to investigate the program. Pulling off indentation announcement was bad enough because of JAWS' unreliability in the editor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439876/#p439876 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
