Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Hi.@Hijacker, thanks for the explonation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490404/#p490404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Its simply a question of security. Lets compare the UAC to your front door. When its enabled, its just the same as always. Everyone wanting to enter has to ring or knock at the door and ask you if they may enter. If you don't want that, just refuse the request. As soon as you disable UAC, you'll stick your door key into your front door, from the outside. Thus, everyone who wants to enter can enter no matter if you want or not, since they will have the key.UAC works almost identically. UAC prevents any program from gaining administrative rights on your system, thus doing anything that could harm you, like accessing private data or controlling other applications. As soon as UAC is turned off and you're logged in with a user allowed to receive administrative rights, any program can receive administrative rights without you even noticing it or asking you if it is allowed to. Thus any program on your system can simply do what it wants without you ever noticing it. Thats what UAC is for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490367/#p490367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Its simply a question of security. Lets compare the UAC to your front door. When its enabled, its just the same as always. Everyone wanting to enter has to ring or knock at the door and ask you if they may enter. If you don't want that, just refuse the request. As soon as you disable UAC, you'll stick your door key into your front door, from the outside. Thus, everyone who wants to enter can enter no matter if you want or not, since they will have the key.UAC works almost identical. UAC prevents any program from gaining administrative rights on your system, thus doing anything that could harm you, like accessing private data or controlling other applications. As soon as UAC is turned off and you're logged in with a user allowed to receive administrative rights, any program can receive administrative rights without you even noticing it or asking you if it is allowed to. Thus any program on your system can simply do what it wants without you ever noticing it. Thats what UAC is for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490367/#p490367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Hi.I'm' a bit confused, what's wrong with turning off UAC?I've done it and have no issues and no pop ups asking me if I want to do this thing or that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490364/#p490364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine so I found out that turning the notification level to 66% will dim the desktop and NVDA will read stuff. Turning it down to 33%will not work because the desktop does not get dimmed,... so its a strange thing. For one, when you are booted, try pressing control plus alt plus delete to display a secure screen. NVDA should read that dialog fine using a oneCore voice if you have not copied your settings.I was curious, why is it recommended that the desktop be dimmed? wikipedia had the answer:User Account Control asks for credentials in a Secure Desktop mode, where the entire screen is temporarily dimmed, Windows Aero disabled, and only the authorization window at full brightness, to present only the elevation user interface (UI). Normal applications cannot interact with the Secure Desktop. This helps prevent spoofing, such as overlaying different text or graphics on top of the elevation request, or tweaking the mouse pointer to click the confirmation button when that's not what the user intended. If an administrative activity comes from a minimized application, the secure desktop request will also be minimized so as to prevent the focus from being lost. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490288/#p490288 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine so I found out that turning the notification level to 66% will dim the desktop and NVDA will read stuff. Turning it down to 33%will not work because the desktop does not get dimmed,... so its a strange thing. For one, when you are booted, try pressing control plus alt plus delete to display a secure screen. NVDA should read that dialog fine using a oneCore voice if you have not copied your settings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490288/#p490288 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine No don’t turn off uac. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490284/#p490284 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Hi.@bgt lover, use alt y to choose yes and alt n for no.Why not turn uac off completely? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490282/#p490282 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine @9: thank you, it worked. I pressed show file location, then send to... This windows 10 is so alike win7 and so different in the same time, but I just have to get used to it, I guess.@10: I always install nvda on all my systems I use. I generaly don't use a portavle copy unless I have to, for example whenever I have to use a computer that is unequiped for blind use, but it is more truble than it's worth for win7 and 10, so I might use narator or, if I'm allowed, install nvda or jaws at that point.@11: Yes, that was his, hmmm, problem, I figured he might just as well try that option and now eloquence speaks the secure screens, but with me no luck so far. I would try that, but what if some secure screen, uac for example, pops up during the copying to ask me if I allow whatever to happen and I am stuck? How the hell did narator manage it? Should I just reinstall nvda all together and see what would happen then? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490279/#p490279 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Hi,Not sure how useful this will be to you, but there is a possibility that nvda on your friend's computer is using the Microsoft one-core voices on secure screens, the same as Narrator would normally use.You could also go into your nvda general settings and apply your current configuration on login and secure screens.Finally, make sure that nvda is installed correctly as others have suggested.HTH a bit,Daniel URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490211/#p490211 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Did you install NVDA on your system? Your issue sounds like you're using it from Portable mode, in which case NVDA doesn't work properly in Secure Screens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490205/#p490205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Search for Skype in menu start, press right arrow on the result and proceed from there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490103/#p490103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine I will certainly do this when I get back home, try to see what comes of it.What would such tools do to solve my problem anyway?My friends pc uses narator for that, but, when nvda comes around, narator stops imediately. Does anyone know why this is and how to reproduce for he doesn't know either.Also, do you know how to put a shortcut from the start menu to the desktop, for example for skype. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490094/#p490094 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Also, try running the COM registration tool in NVDA tools menu.As for narrator, press WIndows+U and proceed from there to narrator settings and then enable it to load on startup URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490072/#p490072 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine I am not experiencing any of the problems you are having, and NVDA does read the secure screen an the UAC screen with no issues. maybe try reinstalling NVDA and see if that fixes your problems. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490031/#p490031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine That's all well and good, but nvda not speaking in the secure screens is just unacceptable for me. What if, for example, I decide to add a password? Would it still be tolerated then?@2: I checked the settings area and that checkbox is indeed checked, apparently to no avail. Is it possible to not be an administrator even if I am the only user on the system? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/48/#p48 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine in the user account control settings, set the thing to 0. that fixed it for me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489988/#p489988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine I did, but no luck so far. Do you know how to at least make narator read that and then return to nvda afterwards? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489982/#p489982 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine
Re: Problem with my new win10 machine Insert+CTRL+G and check the box to use NVDA on your logon screen URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489977/#p489977 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
