Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ross via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

@10This is very useful, thank you. I had no idea about F10 and F11. That makes my life easier, haha.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetasigma via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

I am happy to report that I got my capture card installedl. And it works like I wanted to and how @ross said it would. Though getting the card to work was bit a hustle for some reason. Elgato game capture software could not first find the device and it was not shown in Windows' device manager either. First we checked that the card was correctly attached to the PCI-E slot then we moved it to another slot but that did not help. Fortunately the reinstallation of the elgato software fixed the issue for some reason. But these kind of things can be very frustrating since you do not know if it is software issue or a hardware issue on the motherboard or the capture card itself.I also found out from the Elgato game capture software keyboard shortcuts help page that  f11 switches to full screen mode and f10 hides a sidebar in the full screen mode. So there is no need to use the mouse. Here is a link to that support page in case someone else finds it useful:https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/articl … Capture-HDThough the software is not much accessible, with the help of the shortcuts I even managed to create a video with live voice commentary which I then uploaded to Youtube. (Fear not I will not bother you with it since I speak Finnish in the video.) Creating videos was not my reason for getting the capture card, but since I now have it I had to test it out. You start and stop recording by pressing CTRL r and enable / disable live commentary with CTLR l. Luckily the menu for choosing the microphone for live commentary happened to be accessible. I did not even check if the features for video editing are accessible since for my test I did not need them. For each start / stop recording the capture software saves a video file to a folder from where you can get it. By default it goes under your user's videos folder but it can be changed but I think that is not accessible. In fact for each recording two videos are created and they can be saved to different locations. One is a video export in the mp4 format and the other goes to its own folder under the game capture software's video library folder. This other file is in the transport stream (.ts) format which was a new format for me. The folder also contains some other files related to the internal workings of the game capture software and its editing features. I am telling all this in case someone else someday finds this information useful.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ross via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

@7Right click the part where it says something like HD1080, basically the video.@8It use to not be so simple with any capture card that doesn't have low latency.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetasigma via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

Thank you @ross. Seems like it is more simple than I thought. I got my capture card today and will get it installed later this week. I’ll get back to this when that is done and hopefully I can report that everything works as expected.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : flameAlchemist via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

How do I make the elgato HD go in to full screan?

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ross via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

I'm the guy who created the video and it's awesome you're getting a capture card. Here's how you'll set everything up. Since you want both game audio and PC audio to come through the TV, all you have to do is plug in the Switch via Elgato, then just open the Elgato software. The game will show up in the software, make it full screen, and turn on your TV. This is also assuming your computer is connected to your TV via HDMI.Just to clarify, the passthrough feature is mainly used for lowest latency or for people that have two monitors. Since you're wanting to combine the two audio sources, it's better to just play your game directly from the PC. That's the main reason I got the HD60s because of the low latency capture to PC. Makes recording/streaming a lot easier. Hope this helped.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetasigma via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

I feel it hard to say if Mario maker 2 would be in some way playable for a totally blind person. I use my very limited sight when playing and making courses. I am limited to certain game styles and course themes that have a suitable contrast and colours for me. Overall though I have played and been interested in games my whole life I just quite recently became aware how  many totally blind people play mainstream games and it amazes me what folks can do when you have enough patience.In Super Mario maker when it comes to playing levels I suppose the 3d world game style would be the best to play. It has the most sounds. For example for Mario’s walking and the sound stops when you hit a wall. You can also hear when Mario lands after a jump. And you can hear when you hit a wall when jumping.  Some enemies make also a sound well at least the two I tested. I have not used this game style much since for my vision it is not the best . The new super Mario bros U style also has similar Mario movement sounds but at least the same two  enemies I tested did not make any sound.As for making courses I think it would at least be very difficult but who knows. Although the course making happens in a kind of grid where you place stuff. You use a freely moving cursor. It probably would be easier if you could move the cursor one step at a time but you cannot. Well at least you cannot place anything over something else you placed before and the game gives you a sound when you attempt to do so. When you place something the game also says its name though the voice is quite distorted so at least for me as a non-native english speaker it is sometimes hard to understand what the game said. Perhaps the possibility to use the touchscreen when making courses might also be useful since you can place stuff just by touching or move your finger on the screen to make for example a longer platform. I have not used the touch screen except just now when  I tested it a bit.Not sure if this helped but if you have more questions I can try to answer.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

Is super mario maker 2 even remotely playable? I somehow don't think so. Then again, I didn't think animal crossing would be, so.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetasigma via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

I did a quick test TV vs. handheld with seeing AI an in the end there was no big difference at least in my test case. Perhaps the TV was even better but of course I am more used to it. I tested with one of Super Mario Maker 2’s tutorial lessons. In both I got the text  mostly quite quickly but sometimes had to move the phone a while. I think OCR will be more convenient on the PC: one key press and I can review the result with arrow keys where as seeing AI reads the whole thing at once.

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Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SLJ via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

Hi.Do you get any good results when using Seeing AI in handheld mode? I do understand that it's not a good solution for your vision, but just to check if it gives any good results.

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Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

2020-04-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : thetasigma via Audiogames-reflector


  


Using a capture card to OCR Switch games

Recently I have seen some blind people playing Animal Crossing. New Horizons on Nintendo Switch and using a game capture card to OCR the game see for example this youtube video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAiQ-FNLxR8I decided to also purchase a capture card so I can start OCRing my Switch. Before I have been using the Seeing AI app on iPhone but, at least for me, it is not especially convenient and it takes time to get the phone  positioned correctly before my TV to get the OCR result. I have some vision and thus want to use Switch with my TV and not in hand held mode where the OCR with iPhone might perhaps be easier.However some details are not quite clear for me about how everything works so I hope people here can help me. I already did some searching on this forum and found some related discussions which provided some information but also raised more questions. The capture card I purchased is the Elgato game capture hd 60 pro. I have checked that my PC meets the requirements and I’ll get sighted help for the physical installation and if needed dealing with inaccessible software so that is not an issue.So first my main two questions and then some hopefully clarifying background explanation and some assumptions about how I think this all should work which people can also correct.1. What kind of setup (software and its options) I should use to be able to OCR with Jaws or NVDA.2. How can I hear the game audio from my PC.So what I would like to do is connect my Switch to the capture card and then connect my PC to my TV i.e. I would be using my TV as my PC display and speakers. I would then like to hear the game and see it in full screen on my TV and also hear of course rest of my PC including OCR results  from the TV. I also have a regular computer display and speakers which I normally use with my PC. So of course the alternative could be to connect the capture card’s output HDMI to my TV  to use the capture card’s passthrough feature. Then I would have the game on both my TV and PC screen and I could OCR from the PC while still hearing and seeing the game from my TV. But I think I would prefer to have everything come through the TV.From the related previous discussions on this forum I understand that OBS is the better  software to use with the capture card. Apparently though it is not super accessible it is still better than Elgato’s own software. The reason for my first question about OCR is that from some discussion I got the impression that not all live capture  views on the PC can be OCRed since the screen reader does not see it. And the second question is because Also from another discussion I understood that hearing the Switch audio on the PC is not simple and requires some setup.I hope at least some people had the patience to read my wonderings and can hopefully give me some clarifications for which I would be grateful.

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