Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? 17, just from a first glance, that piece is in a minor key, specifically melodic minor, but it uses a lot of accidentals.Note: Just because you're in a key, doesn't mean you're tied to only the notes in that scale. My college jazz professor once said, "In jazz, you're always only a halfstep away from a right note," meaning that no matter what note you end up playing, you can lead into the right note from there and it works. The way you can tell is first, where is the fundamental note. IN 17's case, it is A-flat, and it is consistently a-flat through the whole song. The next is the dominant note, which is a perfect fourth, or five half-steps below the fundamental. In this case it is e-flat. The next step is is it using a major or minor third. IN this case it's almost always minor, so that narrows it down to a minor scale or a couple of modes.After we figure the third, we look at the leading tone, the note before the route note. This is a little tricky in this piece because they use both g natural and g-flat, indicating most likely melodic minor. The superdominant note also changes between f natural and f-flat, so again indications of melodic minor.Odds are, unless the composer is trying to be cute for some reason, the easiest notation then is a-flat minor, but it could be g-flat dorian mode if they really wanted it to be, and just used the accidentals where needed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563114/#p563114 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? @Gaki_shonen, You might try using an older version. I've had success with that. That... or don't use QWS anyway. It's out-dated, buggy, leaves much to be desired and will only grow more and more obsolete as it won't be receiving any more updates. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563050/#p563050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? Yeah, in agreement with @chrisnorman7 here. There are pieces that are just complex because they add to the beauty of the piece, honestly. You don't get good overnight, though. Practice. Practice practice practice! Then spend a few years trying to figure out all the secrets to this thing. Maybe it's just because I'm practically deaf, but I know it took me that long, and every time I hear it I find something else to admire about it. I'm stil lunder the impression though, that video game music composers are just somewhere else way above me at this point. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563045/#p563045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? @14Nah, not as I'm aware. It should just open.@17That sort of track is always going to be harder to play. It's using unbalanced chords I think, that being a chord with no third, so you can only tell whether ot's major or minor from context.Honestly, it sounds like you're already doing everything I'd recommend, namely practising a lot. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/563015/#p563015 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
2020-08-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Muhammad Hajjar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? And you sometimes come across songs that, I can say, are having a pretty complicated scale to detect, memorize and then compiled and played by you. Take this one as an example, maybe it's just me but I'm having a difficult time detecting and playing the scale. I know there are some advanced musicians in here so there tips would definitely be of a lot of backing up. . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562980/#p562980 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
2020-08-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Muhammad Hajjar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? I actually rely only on my ears to try to get the right key of a song. I just listen, then try to apply what I hear on my Yamaha keyboard until I get the right key. However I confess, this isn't that easy for me as a beginner in music as it also for me does take a lot of time. I'm still yet practicing on a daily basis, so any tips to get such skills improved would so much be appreciated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562978/#p562978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? @11:Where do you get the sheet music in accessible form. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562973/#p562973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? after downloading and installing the program, is there something else I was suppose to do? if yes, I didn't do it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562964/#p562964 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? @12c:\Program Files (x86)\QWS\qws.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS WindowsShould still run though.@5OK, but you can google, or you can ask follow up questions. Please don't ask a question in the hope someone will reply with a complete answer. This isn't a simple maths question with a single answer. Some follow up research will be necessary.More than happy to expound, but if I don't know what you want me to expound upon, I can't really help you, sorry.@11Yeah, b minor was what I came too, simply following the bass notes. And no, I don't have perfect pitch.God only knows is a special kind of confusion. Great song though.But if you're just starting out, presumably you're not trying to crack either of those pieces.@everyoneIf you're starting out with playing by ear, you could do worse than to grab some nursery rhymes, or basic Christian hymns. Oh When The Saints, Bar Bar Black Sheep, Michael Row The Boat Ashore, Twinkle Twinkle. All nice and easy. Start small. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562962/#p562962 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? hi.is qws a 64bit program? because I can't open it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562920/#p562920 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? You know, determining the key of a song is not as straightforward as people make it sound, particularly if you're doing it without sheet music and all you have to rely on is your ears. There are songs that start on one key and end on another, songs that modulate to keep things interesting, songs like this one, which without accurate notation will have you wondering, if the guitarist in question was aiming for a D Major or a B Minor... I'll vote for the latter simply because it begins and ends on that note and because most of the song seems to benefit from it excessively. But That's me and twenty plus years of dealing with music, and I'm willing to take a "you're wrong" if it can be solidly proven.And all of that's simple in comparison to say, a song like God Only Knows, Can you seriously do that by ear right off the bat? Nope. Because why? It's all over the place! Musicologists will tell you as much. You need to seriously studdy it! So, if you're just getting started, don't let any of this negativity put you down. Depending ont the complexity of what you're studying, it may not be as easy as saying just listen to the beginning and the end and see if the piece starts and ends on the same key, though that is a good way to practice, particularly on more simple songs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562877/#p562877 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? You know, determining the key of a song is not as straightforward as people make it sound, particularly if you're doing it without sheet music and all you have to rely on is your ears. There are songs that start on one key and end on another, songs that modulate to keep things interesting, songs like this one, which without accurate notation will have you wondering, if the guitarist in question was aiming for a D Major or a B Minor... I'll vote for the latter simply because it begins and ends on that note and because most of the song seems to benefit from it excessively. But That's me and twenty plus years of dealing with music, and I'm willing to take a "you're wrong" if it can be solidly proven.And all of that's simple in comparison to say, a song like God Only Knows, Can you seriously do that by ear? Nope. Because why? It's all over the place! Musicologists will tell you as much. So, if you're just getting started, don't let any of this negativity put you down. Depending ont the complexity of what you're studying, it may not be as easy as saying just listen to the beginning and the end and see if the piece starts and ends on the same key, though that is a good way to practice, particularly on more simple songs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562877/#p562877 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? Practice. Lots and lots of practice. Not everyone has perfect pitch though either, so learn how to identify intervals, then if you have a tuning fork you can always tell what note is being played. Basic theory, chords, scales, common chord progressions, and tempos are important to know too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562866/#p562866 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? Hmm,I too struggle with identifying the key of the songs and figuring out cords for the songs.It takes me an hour to learn the entire song, and that is only with basic chords, no d#7 or anything fancy. And mind you, that 1 hour isn't exactly my favorite time pass.Even experts use their ears and the musical instrument to figure out this stuff. So, you will have to just keep practicing. My teacher use to simultaneously start playing song as he is listening to it, even a completely unfamiliar song with chords and arpeggios and stuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562830/#p562830 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? hi@5, a daw is a digital audio workstation. reaper, for example is a daw. qws is basicly a daw, like reaper, but its for making midis only I think. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562736/#p562736 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? @Gamulation, QWS is a free accessible MIDI sequencer for Windows. It's just enough to get you started on what you'd want to do, but nothing else honestly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562735/#p562735 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? Yes, your ears. The benefits of them is that they are analog, so no bus noise interference or EM pickup ruining the signal path. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562733/#p562733 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? like I sead I am a nubie, so I don't know what your talking about sorry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562731/#p562731 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? With very basic proficiency with a keyboard, you can find the key using something like QWS or the onscreen keyboard of your DAW.No clue about tempos. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562727/#p562727 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? I know, I am not gona over use it like some people do. I just need to know what key and scale it is suposed to be in URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562723/#p562723 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
Re: is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? It's not enough to put your autotune in the good key, but it should have a clear melody as well. I never understood why is autotune good though, it totally destroys people's voice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562722/#p562722 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song?
is there a accessible tool to detect key and scale of a song? Hi.I am new to music and is just starting out.I found my self mutch better with mixing vocals, but can't figger out the key and scale for tracks. My singing isn't amazing so autotune helps, but not in the wrong key.Any help would be amazing URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/562719/#p562719 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
