Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S Regarding Commentary:I'm not sure I'll give it a try before it comes in the Playstore.Regarding Braille keyboards: MBraille is also for Android, however, I haven't tried it yet. I also hear the MBraille Keyboard is for Android as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/465301/#p465301 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S I am typing this on an IPad Mini 5th gen, and I will one day get an IPhone, though if you will be coming From a Galaxy S10E like me (where an LCD may not cut it for some), I’ll be most likely getting the IPhone 12 which will have an OLED display. No one knows for sure, if USBC will make the cut, though it is still only 2019. Regardless of which phone I get, it won’t be till next September 2020. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/465019/#p465019 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
2019-09-28
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Re: moving from I O S With VA, you can double tap the screen to play/pause music, you can have shortcut keys, like double clicking the poweroff button to acces darkscreen, or to access the camera. I also know of one thing android has but I O S doesnt.Can you Guess?just noww one moment...World Empire and the whole Empire series. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464956/#p464956 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S I just use the free commentary, and it's fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464953/#p464953 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Hello. I'm actually typing this on my PIxel 3A XL. I'm actually thinking of either getting an iPhone 11 on visible a verizon pre-paid company or getting an iPod touch. I may go the iPhoen root again because of seeing AI, blindsquare and some other things. I have found nearby explorer and a few other GPS apps on android. I personally feel that blindsquare on IOS is one of the best navigation apps for the blind. I also miss the router and the custom actions it offered. I really think android and talkback have came a long way but it still needs work. My biggest thing I miss from IOS is the 2 finger double tap to answer calls or pause music or whatever. I feel that IOS and voiceover is more pollished compared to android and talkback. I love how customizable android is and having eloquence on my phone and being able to remote into my laptop or mess with my amazon firestick. I have used an iPhoen since 2010 and have had a few android phone through out the years. So I can speak on the whole iPhone vs Android phone from experience. I feel like both OSes have their places. I'd like to hold on this pixel and get an IDevice a few months down the road. I would also say that voice assistant on the samsung phones is a really nice interface to android. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464943/#p464943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S @hadi.gsf what accessible flight sims does droid have? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464940/#p464940 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S For those wondering why you have to join the Telegram group, it is because all updates at this time can ‘Only” be found with in the ‘Files” section of said place.There are plans for Commentary to be up in the ‘F-Droid” App Store, though it hasn’t been confirmed. Also, (considering this is a ‘Chinese Program,) it is easier for the person to ‘Manually” update.If the ‘official” Jieshuo Chat group is too ‘high traffic” for ya, you can also join the ‘Jieshuo English” only group:NB. In the official Jieshuo group, there is now over 400 people.Https://t.me/jieshuoenglish URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464928/#p464928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S If we put accessibility aside, Android has some amazing stuff to work with. There are so many cool apps to have fun with, specially if you fly with flight simulators or practice guitar/do music recordings.Regardless. I don't seem to be able to get rid of my iPhone because of two apps that are unavailable in android.First is seeing AI which is just amazing. I use it at work to work with consoles that don't have speakup installed yet and also read bootloader info etcsecond is dystopia for reddit, which is currently in beta and you need to join test flight to use it. It's like someone knew exactly how to make a fully accessible app for the blind and they just did that to make a reddit client. I at least spend 2 hours a day reading reddit and most of it is on my phone when i'm not home, the app is just so great in terms of accessibility that you can't really ignore how great it is.Meanwhile, I still can't set custom notifications on my iPhone for each app, and i cannot route voiceover to a different source when i'm connected to car bluetooth which is just freaking annoying, come on apple it's 2019 god damn it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464874/#p464874 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S If we put accessibility aside, Android has some amazing stuff to work with. There are so many cool apps to have fun with, specially if you fly with flight simulators or practice guitar/do music recordings.Regardless. I don't seem to be able to get rid of my iPhone because of two apps that are unavailable in android.First is seeing AI which is just amazing. I use it at work to work with consoles that don't have speakup installed yet and also read bootloader info etcsecond is dystopia for reddit, which is currently in beta and you need to join test flight to use it. It's like someone knew exactly how to make a fully accessible app for the blind and they just did that to make a reddit client. I at least spend 2 hours a day reading reddit and most of it is on my phone when i'm not home, the app is just so great in terms of accessibility that you can't really ignore how great it is URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464874/#p464874 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S If we put accessibility aside, Android has some amazing stuff to work with. There are so many cool apps to have fun with, specially if you fly with flight simulators or practice guitar/do music recordings.Regardless. I don't seem to be able to get rid of my iPhone because of two apps that are unavailable in android.First is seeing AI which is just amazing. I use it at work to work with consoles that don't have speakup installed yet and also read bootloader info etcsecond is dystopia for reddit, which is currently in beta and you need to join test flight to use it. It's like someone knew exactly how to make a fully accessible app for the blind and they just did that to make a reddit client. I at least spend 2 hours a day reading reddit and most of it is on my phone when i'm not home. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464874/#p464874 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S I have to agree with Turtlepower17, which is why I still have not tried commentary; I am hesitant to give my payment information to someone who I cannot fully say I trust (especially if I'm not going through a trusted vendor like Stripe/PayPal and giving them the information directly). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464863/#p464863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S This hole battle between screen readers has been going on for ages and I doubt it'll ever end. The issue comes down to the fanatics who will deliberately make the competition look bad (which invalidates the fanatics) just to prove (in some strange way) that the fanatics platform of choice is good and the competition is the worst platform in existence. This doesn't really apply to battles between (say) NVDA and JAWS, where such fanaticism is understandable since both are centralized on a single platform (and one is obviously free and one is ridiculously overpriced). Here are the major problems with most fanaticism when it comes to phones in particular:1) Android has two screen readers. Most of the fanatics solely focus on Talkback and none of the others. This is quite sad, really it is. Yes, Google isn't improving TB very much, but there (is) an alternative. Before bashing Android into the core of the Earth (and then out into space), consider that for a moment. Then, consider how iOS only has one screen reader.2) VO and TB are very, very different, and made by two very different companies. Said companies have very different morals and very different methods of operation. Do I think that the google accessibility team that manages TB needs to be split into a separate company of its own so that it can actually pay full attention to TB? Yep, I sure damn do, just as I believe that Gmail, Chrome, and most of Googles separate projects should be split into separate companies as well.I also have to agree with Turtlepower17, which is why I still have not tried commentary; I am hesitant to give my payment information to someone who I cannot fully say I trust (especially if I'm not going through a trusted vendor like Stripe/PayPal and giving them the information directly). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464863/#p464863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S This hole battle between screen readers has been going on for ages and I doubt it'll ever end. The issue comes down to the fanatics who will deliberately make the competition look bad (which invalidates the fanatics) just to prove (in some strange way) that the fanatics platform of choice is good and the competition is the worst platform in existence. Here are the major problems with most fanaticism when it comes to phones in particular:1) Android has two screen readers. Most of the fanatics solely focus on Talkback and none of the others. This is quite sad, really it is. Yes, Google isn't improving TB very much, but there (is) an alternative. Before bashing Android into the core of the Earth (and then out into space), consider that for a moment. Then, consider how iOS only has one screen reader.2) VO and TB are very, very different, and made by two very different companies. Said companies have very different morals and very different methods of operation. Do I think that the google accessibility team that manages TB needs to be split into a separate company of its own so that it can actually pay full attention to TB? Yep, I sure damn do, just as I believe that Gmail, Chrome, and most of Googles separate projects should be split into separate companies as well.I also have to agree with Turtlepower1, which is why I still have not tried commentary; I am hesitant to give my payment information to someone who I cannot fully say I trust (especially if I'm not going through a trusted vendor like Stripe/PayPal and giving them the information directly). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464863/#p464863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
2019-09-27
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Re: moving from I O S Its a bit unfair to bash Droid accessibility.. The thing that separates droid from IOS is android's simplicity. There is just too much things to remember. I have my iPhone for a week now, and I told my mom, I want a Samsung again. And don't compare VA to TB. Talkback, at least when i used it, is a trillion kilomeetres behind Voice Assistant. There are pros and cons to each OS, but as said previously, its your preference, and what you want to do with your phone. If you want to brows through the internet, get an Apple. You want a more all round phone, get an Android. We will have to wait until Hong Ming OS comes out to see how accessibility is over there. I may just get one of those. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464847/#p464847 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S I do have a question. Why is this Commentary screen reader only available via a Telegram group? It seems like a strange way to get a project noticed, particularly if it's as strong of a contender against Talkback as people are saying. Since most people associate Telegram with seedy or secretive operations, much as they might the dark web, I don't understand why the devs don't want to promote it, even if it is a rough beta at this point. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving my payment details to some random person on one of these groups, and that goes for any social media, whether it's Facebook, WhatsApp, or what have you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464831/#p464831 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S I do have a question. Why is this Commentary screen reader only available via a Telegram group? It seems like a strange way to get a project noticed, particularly if it's as strong of a contender against Talkback as people are saying. Since most people associate Telegram with seedy or secretive operations, much as they might the dark web, I don't understand why they don't want to promote it, even if it is a rough beta at this point. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving my payment details to some random person on one of these groups, and that goes for any social media, whether it's Facebook, WhatsApp, or what have you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464831/#p464831 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S Sorry I didn't read it that way. Thanks for the info. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464810/#p464810 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S Um, My post was detailed and provided my opinions on things. I said only that it's not the right time based on my experience. Think about it, Android 10 brought nothing new for blind users, and compared to iOS 13, that's a huge mistake on Google's part. The last talkback update came way before Android Q was released. The fact that Android is more open is a fact. I do hope you have fun with Droid though, as a system I prefer it way more than iOS, sadly the accessibility is just not there yet, and if Google keeps going the way they currently are it wont ever be. Another thing I forgot to mention is the braille screen input feature, it makes typing so much easier, on Android there are some 3rd party apps, all of which requiring you to suspend TB/VA to use them and turn them back on once you are done typing, which can quickly become annoying. Commentary has a fix for this though, but I have not used this myself since it came right as I switched so can't comment on how well it works. Regardless of that, if one thing is certain, you wont have the ability to switch between braille and standard keyboard with one gesture, which is extremely convenient if you need to type some rarely used simbol in braille and have no idea how it's written. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464809/#p464809 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S I feel that it's a mix both IOS and Droid offer different things and it depends on what you want. Droid now has more than 1 screen reader and more than 1 phone company where as Apple only has Voiceover and you're stuck with the iPhone. Siri isn't getting any smarter and the Google Assistant will soon be able to wait on hold for you. For me I'm tired of Apple and I want something new. I want to learn a new device and I'm willing to put the time in to do so. I also feel like that's an overused excuse that's it's not the right time. This phone isn't the 1 you want wait for the next one or don't switch now the operating system is buggy. The right time to switch is up to the person making the switch. Doesn't matter if it's to the next iPhone or from Droid to Apple or Apple to Droid. The great thing is that we have the option to switch if we want. I think that instead of saying that it's not the right time to switch, or don't switch your making a mistake the more helpful thing would be to point out the differences. Point out what worked for you and what didn't. To use another example, just because say runts are the most accessible candy because you can feel the shape of the candy doesn't mean that some people don't still want starburst. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464805/#p464805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S Sadly, it's not a great time to switch to Android. Samsung is doing some things, but not enough. Voice assistant came out with Galaxy S6, Galaxy Talkback back then which was for me a better name, but if that was the only problem I'd be happy. Ever since then, VA received very minor updates, the only big one adding keyboard shortcuts, the rest was pretty much adding features from Talkback. Even if samsung does something amazing with it, it just wont come close to the productivity iOS offers, language switching being just one example. Ever since switching to iOS, I never want to go back to the design where in an app let's say you have a list of items, and as you swipe through them you also have to swipe through possible actions for that item for example like, dislike, comment and so on on FB when all of these can just be custom actions and you access them when you need to. There is of course stuff Android does better. I really don't like how Apple does explore by touch for example, where if you are trying to find a small item on the screen, as soon as your finger moves out of it's reach, even if nothing else is there VO wont announce the item. If there are 2 things Android does better, it's explore by touch and recently, from Android 8 and up, accessibility volume. I wish VO had a separate volume. Overall though, many apps, including the ones from Google work way better on iOS with a screen reader. Want an example? In the Youtube app, when an add is displayed, the iOS app nicely gives you feedback when the skip add button becomes available, which Android app does not. Of course, they apply the same, awesome principle with custom actions, alright maybe even Youtube is not the best example of that since they over do it at places, but it still works very nicely. The last thing I'll mention is TalkBack's general lag. Now I have been told this is better on Pixel devices, but have never used those. If you browse the web a lot, access large lists, you will notice that VO is much more responsive than TB. Commentary, on the other hand has very good performance, but that too lacks in some areas, however if that screen reader continues improving it can become a very solid replacement. All this comes from an Android fan for more than 5 years, but I don't regret trying iOS out, mostly for performance and productivity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464777/#p464777 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
2019-09-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : giorgi elbaqidze via Audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S i have a question: does that commentry screen reader supports georgian language? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464768/#p464768 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S The CSr can be gotten fromt.me/jieshuochatYou can register freely with telegram URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464701/#p464701 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S @9 Yes, I've always been on the Android side of things, against the IOS fanatics who were constantly misinforming people about inaccessibility of Android. But a thing that I liked in IOS was quite what you say, changing languages on the fly. I decided to contact the developer of the Commentary screen reader in the near future to ask him to implement this. I also use afew languages daily, changing between my native Serbian, English, Italian and a few others that I study as a hobby. Google doesn't seem to listen to much to the community lastly when it comes to accessibility, but the good thing about Android is that it is open-sourced, so everyone can make things, and those things can be even as flexible as noone could think, in fact, Google said more times that things can't be implemented in Talkback that Commentary does have. So I do hope that the option we want will be available in the near future. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464699/#p464699 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Hi.I have also started to explore the Android world.The only feature I'm going to miss every time every day is the ability to switch the voice language on the fly. I'm constantly switching between Danish, my main language and English when reading texts and writing in both languages. I wish such feature was available in Talkback as well. No, automatic language switching does not work well enough for me.I don't get where to download the latest version of the Commentary screenreader? I want to give it a try, especially if it supports the danish language.What is the Telegram app which is mentioned in post 5? I have never heard of the jieshuo screen reader group before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464689/#p464689 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Android was my first phone samsung J3 I don't know what the difference between talkback or commentary are. Or why one is better over the other. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464684/#p464684 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Google pixel 3 a, and commentary screen reader all the fuckin way. WHile some features are paid, it's a great screenreader, once you get used to how it works. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464608/#p464608 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
2019-09-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S I wouldn't recommend Nokia. After December, MS says it will stop giving it safety updates. Samsung A series for sure. I've heard good things about the Google phones, but i've also heard bad stuff. If yure going the Google route, wait until the Pixel 4. My Samsung is much easier to use than My iPhone 7. Frankly, I miss the simplisity of my J6, But my iPhone offers a bit more in terms of performance and accessibility, but Voice Assistant is getting up to Voice Over, and I predict that when Hong Ming OS comes out, there will be more intense pressure on Google to make Android better. I think Android may surpass IOS. Maybe Maybe not. But Samsung's Voice Assistant beats the living crap out of Talkback for sure. I only started using Screenreader on my Samsung, because talkback pissed me off too much.HTH although I went a bit OT URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464606/#p464606 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Well, any phone from the android one list works great, such as xiaomi mi a1, xiaomi mi a2, mi a3, mi a2 lite, most nokia android phones such as nokia 7.1 and 4.2. Also if you want an iOS-like experience, get the commentary screen reader. It is better than talkback and makes the phone a bit more like iOS in how the screen reader behaves. You can get the latest commentary screen reader from the jieshuo screen reader group on telegram app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464594/#p464594 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: moving from I O S Now it totally comes down to what you want to do with your device and how much you expect from it.My brother bought a Galaxy A70, product of 2019. It works very well and I used it with Voice Assistant (a Talkback-based screen reader); however,I wouldn't use it as my primary device in a daily basis.If you're seriously looking into transitioning to Android permanently, you should bear in mind that Android is not iOS and Talkback is not Voiceover; thus, you should not make your iOS user experience a basis for or a source of comparison to what you encounter on Android.Again, I stress that on choosing a device and an operating system, it totally depends on what you want to do with your device and how much you expect from it.I myself started with an Android device in 2014, primarily because what I was getting seemed far better than what I had been using. I explored Android and customised the phone to my preference. However, I could keep the phone for less than two years because I couldn't really take advantage of what the phone offered and what I could get out of it. Web browsing was bad, typing was bad, Talkback was sluggish; even very basic actions like answering and ending calls were really arduous to do. At that point I decided to listen to my friends who were already using an iPhone and who had been long telling me to get an iPhone myself. I bought an iPhone 6 and it really changed my perception of what I could do with my device, honestly. I loved the concept of roter and actions which could be activated with only a swipe and double tap, like the like button on Facebook, or the delete button on the mail app, for instance.Then came, or I got the chance to try apps like Seeing AI, Be my Eyes, Blind Square, and many more. These gave iPhones a good potential and many of us are relying on them more and more. Today I write almost all e-mails on my iPhone, I do all of the texting on Facebook or WhatsApp on it, I read all the news and comment on different posts on Facebook and Instagram and so on. I use the braille screen input which is a must for any touch screen device with a screen reader. Without it, the use of iOS would be limited for me.While using the Galaxy A70 I was referring to above, I was wondering how would my experience change if I swapped that device with my iPhone 8+. Actually it seemed totally unthinkable for me to do that. Android is still far away from what I expect my device to give me. The lack of braille support and of braille screen input, the lack of roter and quick actions, the lack of an efficient web browsing experience make Android not a viable choice for now. I don't want to explore my device to the boans, I don't want to crack or modify apps, I don't want to root my phone and install the latest Android version. I just want a device that works for what I use it and iOS does it very well for now. It could change in the future, but that's how the situation currently is.Since you said that you don't want to change much from your device in order to make it more accessible, I wrote this long post from an iOS user's perspective, an operating system which you may have been using more than I. I'm not trying to influence your decision. If you want to move to Android, go ahead and do it. But since you're asking our opinions, than I'm giving mine.Hope this helps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464583/#p464583 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
2019-09-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : giorgi elbaqidze via Audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S well samsung galaxy s series, or a series. Now, i am using samsung galaxy s6 edge, but i don't recomend it to you, cause it is not supports android versions above 7. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464550/#p464550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: moving from I O S
Re: moving from I O S The Pixel 3A I don't think is to expencive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464549/#p464549 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
moving from I O S
moving from I O S hi, so last week my Iphone broke. I am now am thinking of leaving apple. and giving Androyd a go. I am looking for a phone that is easy to use, and that is well known, also it would be sweet if it was a budgit phone. I don't want to be needing to code my own screen reader and stuff, I just want something that just works. Bairing that in mind, what are peoples ideas about apps and screen readers? Is talkback good, or is there something better now? What apps work well?Here's a small list, please tell me if they all work,audible, youtube, twitter, phone, messages, discord, web stuff, and skype,also, 1 more thing how do keyboards work? I used to have a android tablet and i did not know how to type, does talkback use a diffrent keyboard or something?Sorry if i am asking a lot of questions, that you might say are stupid. But really, I am a total newb to android thanks, and any help would be nice! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464541/#p464541 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
