Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda You're welcome. I wish that Bladestorm360 updated the guide. I've used that message threee times counting this one lol. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183270#p183270 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Thanks for the key change. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182870#p182870 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Currently using NVDA exclusively on my windows 8 laptop and loving it. The touch screen support was awesome until my touch screen decided it was going to go haywire... and now I have no idea what the problem is. but NVDA itself works great. Question and not sure if I'm going to get an answer... are there any Korean speakers on the forum using NVDA? If so, is there a way to get it to read each hangul letter by itself when navigating by character rather than having it only read the syllable made up by those characters? That'd either be the reading string or precomposition string... I can't remember which. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182774#p182774 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda This is a post I posted a while ago explaining the issue.Hello,The keystrokes have changed in v3.0 of instant translate. The translator's layer is activated with nvda+shift+t, and then one of those can be pressed:Instant Translate layer commands:t translates selected textshift+t translates clipboard text.a announces current swap configurations swaps source and target languagesc copies last result to clipboardi identify the language of selected text.A keystroke for each of these commands without using the layer can be added in the prefferences submenu of NVDA, under Input Gestures, instant translate. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182764#p182764 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda I used 2.2beta2. and it works for me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182722#p182722 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda i installed the last version i think. i got the link from the article about Japanese games.. to me none of these combinations works. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182718#p182718 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Hi,What version of translate addOn did you use? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182697#p182697 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Yes, NVDA works nicely on 64bit windows versions.Actually, I might be having the same issue as far as the translate addon is concerned. While I can usually use the NVDA shift y keystroke alright when I copy text to the clipboard, the NVDA shift t key doesn't seem to want to work at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182686#p182686 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Actually, I might be having the same issue. While I can usually use the NVDA shift y keystroke alright when I copy text to the clipboard, the NVDA shift t key doesn't seem to want to work at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182686#p182686 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda thanks guys. your posts have been extremely helpful. I've never navigated on a mac but I think i will get the hang of it with a bit of exercise. i have a strange problem, i tried to install the translate add on but it is not working. i tried on two computers with the same result. does nvda work on 64 bits? because i will install a 64 bit version of windows in a few days and i will use only nvda as my screen reader, i don't want to buy jaws again. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182638#p182638 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda It's NVDA enter to interact with an object. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182637#p182637 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Hi.I was going to say, is it just me, or is NVDA object navigation just like using VoiceOver to interact and move around on the mac?As for the NVDA review cursor, I recommend laptop mode since it seems to be the easier method of controlling the cursor.IN laptop mode, press NVDA shift left and right arrows to move through the objects and up arrow to leave a group and down to enter a group.I think NVDA space clicks on the current object.Like I said before, I think they copied the way Voiceover on OS X navigates.I think you have more commands, but I can't remember them off the top of my head since I don't use object navigation that much. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182627#p182627 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda To go to the top or bottom or a webpage/word document/list/just about anything in windows, you use ctrl-home and ctrl-end respectively. Since people described to you the object navigation keystrokes, I'll just add that the concept behind it is very much like the one used by VoiceOver on Mac OS if you've ever used it. The way JAWS handles screen review is that it asks the video card for the current snapshot of the screen, which is then used by the JAWS cursor. So then the screen looks just like a webpage with text and controls running from top to bottom without any hierarchy being shown to you. NVDA also has this feature if you switch the review cursor to "flat review" mode (can you see why it's called flat?). In normal object navigation mode, NVDA skips the video card and instead asks the operating system for information about controls and windows. Every control is part of another, IE a list item is part of a list, which could be part of a property page, w hich could be part of a dialogue box, which is part of the application window, and all windows are a part of the Windows desktop. So that's how a typical hierarchy looks like. So, as you move between objects, you can enter an object (like a list), to look at the list items.Hope that helps you somewhat. Here's you hoping you can succeed in your switch, because IMO it's very much worthwhile. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182607#p182607 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
2014-07-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Also, please see:http://nvda-kr.org/en/, which takes you to the NVDA Korea - English Site, which there you'll find a very well done tutorial done by Joseph Lee. Though based off of the 2013 series, many of the concepts travel on in to the 2014 series, and beyond. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182602#p182602 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda sorry for the misunderstanding. when I said to the top or bottom of a page I meant an internet page. I am also curious if you can navigate to the top or bottom of a word document. wanderer your post is extremely helpful. thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182601#p182601 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda HiObject navigation is pretty simple once you get the hang of it. Objects are graphical controls in applications, i.e. buttons, edit fields, and so on. It's organized like a hierarchical tree, with windows or areas in an application having their own objects, which are contained by parent objects. So, if you're in object review (you can navigate between objects with the review currsor with NVDA-numpad 4 and 6, or NVDA-shift-left and right if you're using the laptop keyboard layout. You can go to the previous and next review modes with NVDA-numpad 1 and NVDA-numpad 7, or NVDA-page-up and page-down for laptops, respectively. You'll want to be in screen review for the equivalent functionallity of the JAWS currsor. Navigate through text with either the keys on the numerical pad if on a desktop or the NVDA key in combination with arrow keys if on a laptop. Note that when you're navigating in this manner, you're using the NVDA review currsor exclusivel y, and the system focus, or what you're using when navigating with just the arrow keys, doesn't move unless you explicitly route it to NVDA's focus. Sorry if that seems obvious, but I don't recall if JAWS works the same way, so just wanted to clarify. You can either navigate to whatever control you'd like to activate and press NVDA-enter (or numpad-enter for desktop) or if it needs to be clicked on with the mouse, route the mouse pointer to the object with NVDA-numpad-divide or NVDA-shift-m. To go to the top of texxt you'd use shift-numpad-7, desktop, or NVDA-control-home, laptop, and 9 or end to move to the bottum. If you didn't already know about it there's a key commands reference in the NVDA help menu that can be very useful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182591#p182591 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
Re: slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda Nin, need some clarification here as your post is a bit confusing. By top and bottom of the page do you mean the top and bottom of the active window?If so you can use shift+numpad7 to go to the top of the window and shift+numpad9 to go to the bottom of the window with the object navigator in desktop keyboard mode. In laptop keyboard mode the commands are NVDA+control+home and NVDA+control+end to go to the top and bottom of the window. If by page you mean something else you need to clarify. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182584#p182584 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda
slowly giving up on jaws and starting to use nvda hi. I am slowly thinking about changing to nvda. this is very hard for me because I am a jaws user for about eight years. but jaws seems to cause me a lot of trouble crashing when I need it more. I have some questions about nvda. any help would be appreciated. my first experience with the program is very good, it never crashed on me and I use it for 2 days now.. but there are some things that I don't understand. how exactly works the object navigator I think it's called, the one that is replacing the route jaws cursor? and how do I navigate to the top or to the bottom of a page? any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182582#p182582 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
