[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Apple iPod HI-FI No Threat to SB!
crooner Wrote: He has achieved success by entering the audio arena instead of concetrating his efforts into positioning the Macintosh as the world personal computer standard. In a sense he conceded defeat to his archrival Bill Gates... It's when Apple stopped competing wil Bill Co that their second time of success started! In addition, Apple has concentrated on making stylish products that works together... Me, I like linux for the freedom of choice it gives me. -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21595 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Apple iPod HI-FI No Threat to SB!
why didn't they have a slot for the ipod, and a display you can read from a distance. That would have been worth making. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21595 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Apple iPod HI-FI No Threat to SB!
Worst Apple product ever? Apples say this redefines the home stereo system. I don't think so. Firstly, it's fugly, but maybe thats just me. Secondly, whats new about this? Third party manufactures (Bose for example) have been making these for ages (years?). Thirdly, It's a useful partner for existing stereo, but does not even come close to replacing or redefining the home stereo. Most people will still want a decent proper amp/speaker setup, perhaps with a Squeezebox or a Cambridge Audio music server type device if they want to avoid CD's. More Apple spin and hype. Are they turning into Sony? Looks like a crap cheap speaker thats fallen over. That said, i am sure they will sell like hot cakes. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21595 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 + MF X-DAC v3?
Oh well, I'll hopefully be able to let you know what I think of the X-10 as I've got a mate in the US who's going to mail me a new one. I couldn't find any new in the UK but managed to find one in the US. And they're going for nearly new prices on eBay anyway. Looking forward to it. -- sjalloq sjalloq's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4093 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB is killing the SACD format! ;)
I was actually thinking about posting a message to the Audioasylum Hi Res forum but did not want to start a Jihad. I have close to 80 SACDs myself, but since the purchase of an SB2 I have not hadly been listening to my SACD collection. The main thing is access, I now have access to most of my music through the SB2, and the sound is good enough for me. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21542 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB is killing the SACD format! ;)
agentsmith Wrote: I was actually thinking about posting a message to the Audioasylum Hi Res forum but did not want to start a Jihad. I have close to 80 SACDs myself, but since the purchase of an SB2 I have not hadly been listening to my SACD collection. The main thing is access, I now have access to most of my music through the SB2, and the sound is good enough for me. On second thought, nobody is killing SACD, both the SACD and DVD-A HD formats never really lived. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21542 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] volume control question - digital or analogue?
I have a question about the effect on audio quality of the squeezebox 3 digital volume control. My system will consist of a SB3 - DAC AH (a 16-bit non-oversampling DAC) - Odyssey power amp. I'm not going to use a preamp, as I want the cleanest possible signal path and the SB will be the only source. I haven't bought the amp yet, and I have a choice to make - Klaus over at Odyssey Audio can either fit it with a passive volume control (for an additional $150 or so), or leave it as a pure power amp. So I'm wondering whether it's better to use the digital volume control on the SB and forgo the volume knob on the amp, or whether instead I should disable the digital volume on the SB and use the modified amp. All else being equal, I'd rather not have the volume control added to the amp, both for the extra $$ and because I prefer simplicity (not to mention there won't be a remote control, and I'm lazy!). Any suggestions? -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21617 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
rajacat Wrote: How does it sound? I'm interested in either the Paradisea or the Renaissance II from MHDTlabs to work in conjunction with the SB3. i will write something thorough once i do some blind tests and get some outside input. right at first, with no warm-up or break-in, i didn't notice much difference from my pioneer cdp's output. i *may* have heard a slight change in clarity, but it could possibly have been my imagination. i still haven't been able to do blind tests. now, i have let it play for a good 24h, and i've quickly listened to the difference of my SB3, CDPlayer, and the Paradisea. after warming up, the Paradisea gives a stronger sound than the SB3 and CDP. the voices sound slightly more present and natural and less tinny and like they're behind a curtain. the stereo is a little wider, giving space between individual sounds. i haven't tested with flac in a silent room with the same cables yet, but i plan to later this week, blind, with the help of a friend. i'll also recieve an audioquest vdm-5 spdif soon to compare with the bluejeans cable. -- gobikey ___ krell kav-400xi integrated amp vienna acoustics 'beethoven' speakers audioquest diamondback interconnects diy acoustic room treatment flac with accuraterip ___ gobikey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3804 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: volume control question - digital or analogue?
Does the power amp (without volume control) have an input level adjust? If not I'd suggest using a passive volume control. This could be as simple as a (switchable) attenuator. The reason for this is that if there is no attenuation between the sb and the power amp you risk blowing your speakers if a user, software or hardware error causes a full volume output from the DAC. The cheap / simple and most likely very close to best audio quality solution would be to make up an rca lead with an attenuator in the poweramp end. The attenuation should be set such that maximum sb volume results in the highest level you ever want to listen at (which should be within the power handling abilities of the amp+speakers). -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21617 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: volume control question - digital or analogue?
Unmodified, the amp doesn't have any sort of level adjust - it's just a pure power amplifier. However, the amp is rated at either 110 or 150 watts/channel, depending on which model I go with, and my speakers (BW CM4's) should be able to handle either at maximum level with no danger. That said, I'd prefer not to deafen myself and/or my neighbors... and I suppose this also means I may need to turn the SB down pretty far to reach a reasonable volume level. Does turning it down a lot increase the negative effect on audio quality? If so, maybe an attenuator plus the SB volume control would be a good solution? -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21617 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: volume control question - digital or analogue?
opaqueice Wrote: I have a question about the effect on audio quality of the squeezebox 3 digital volume control. ... Any suggestions? If you forgo the DAC, you can run the analog outs from the SB direct into the amp. That is a great way to go as well as being the cheapest way. You make use of the preamp volume level feature of the SB3, which you can fine tune to your desired listening max volume. If you must use a DAC, then you give up that preamp volume control. The digital volume control doesn't work the same way, and it is not as nice because of the noise floor of the DAC. Because you have to turn down the SB3's digital volume very low to bring the sound to reasonable listening levels, any noise in the DAC whatsoever becomes very loud in comparison. In effect you are at the mercy of the noise floor (blackness) of the DAC, and with my DAC direct into my (500wpc) amp the hiss was audible. If you have a DAC with an output attenuator you might be able to avoid this problem by lowering the DAC's output and raising the SB3's digital volume. Or as suggested above install some external attenuators after the DAC so that you don't have to run the digital volume control so low. Alternately, if you have the world's quietest DAC you might not have an issue. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21617 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
Robster Wrote: quote: Also, Sony mp3 players don't actually play mp3's - you have to use SonicStage to convert all mp3's to Sony's proprietary format. It's a major time-waster, and offers you, the consumer, no benefit whatsoever. -- Not true anymore, Sony's walkman use Atrac3 AND MP3 now . . . .Rob Are you absolutely certain about this? I have an NW-E407, and it doesn't play mp3's.. the mp3's that are loaded into SonicStage are automatically converted to atrac when they're loaded onto the device - which explains why it takes so infernally long to load them. How fast is the loading process with SonicStage now? Has it changed at all? Chris -- benthos benthos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
I recommend the iPod. It doesn't support flac, but flac files are so large that they are not practical for portable devices anyways. And frequently portable music is listened to under conditions that are not conducive to he most critical listening at any rate. If you absolutely must have lossless iPod will support Apple Lossless. Under most conditions where portable music is desired mp3's provide more than adequate quality, especially if they are encoded right (VBR). And the small size of mp3 files makes them more suitable to use on portable devices. The iPod has a few major advantages: The user interface is beyond reproach Absolutely the best. The sound quality is excellent. The iPod is one of the few portable devices that can really drive a pair of headphones. Build quality is excellent. iTunes runs on Windows and Mac OS, there are third party solutions for using the iPod on Linux. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
Robster Wrote: Itunes is better though, but I did not want to join to Isheep flock..never mind that those white headphones are a thief magnet! As this is the Audiophile forum, allow me to make some unsubstantiated assertions: :-) The stock iPod earphones *suck*, so if you choose an iPod be sure to get something better. And it doesn't have to be white. However, I haven't found earbuds I'm totally happy with yet. Alas, wearing Sennheiser HD-580s out of the house is somewhat awkward. Simon, you won't be able to hear the difference between lossless and a high-bitrate LAME-encoded MP3 on a portable device. The issue is convenience, as generating MP3 versions of your lossless files is an extra step. Personally, I rip all my music into FLAC files for use with the Squeezebox, then generate MP3 versions to import into iTunes for use on my iPods. I love my iPods, one a 5th generation 60 GB, one a 4 GB nano. I used to use a Rio Karma, and it sounded great, but 20 GB just wasn't enough space for my MP3 files, to say nothing of my FLAC files. I believe the iPod sounds better than the Karma, but I haven't done any serious comparisons. On the other hand, since I still have my Karma... The Karma is the way to go! Buy mine! :-) -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: Simon, you won't be able to hear the difference between lossless and a high-bitrate LAME-encoded MP3 on a portable device. This depends on what you mean by high bitrate, what sort of music one listens to, what portable device, what headphones are used, and the listeners abilities. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
Why not consider a phone / audio player combo? I always have to have a phone and refuse to carry and/or deal with the hassle of two devices. I have used both the treo 600 and 650 and love it. I'm sure there are lots of other alternatives phones as well. On the plus side, you only have one device that does a lot. On the minus side, you have somewhat limited storage. What I currently use: Treo 650 Aeroplayer (free w/ogg decoder) Seido 2-in-1 headset I convert my bin/cue flac files on the fly to Ogg Vorbis with some custom perl scripts that I wrote (using a very handy utility called ACDIR which processes bin/cue files nicely). It takes about ~1 minute per CD to convert the files and copy them to my SD card. I do them in batches so I don't really care how long it takes. My 2GB SD card holds about 35 CDs worth of music (ogg at quality setting of 4). My Treo's battery lasts all day long (8 hours of listening + phone use) with plenty of juice left (30%). I really couldn't ask for a better device for me! Enjoy! George -- mrthreeplates mrthreeplates's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=565 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: As this is the Audiophile forum, allow me to make some unsubstantiated assertions: :-) The stock iPod earphones *suck*, so if you choose an iPod be sure to get something better. And it doesn't have to be white. However, I haven't found earbuds I'm totally happy with yet. Alas, wearing Sennheiser HD-580s out of the house is somewhat awkward. Well that's certainly true. I used the stock ear buds for about two seconds before I decided I needed better. 'Here's a link' (http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/in-ear-monitor/etymotic-er-4p.php) to the phones I'm using now. They are really excellent for portable music. they do an excellent job at blocking outside sound and they're really efficeint so the iPod has no problem driving them. They sound great and they're comfortable. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
nelamvr6 Wrote: Well that's certainly true. I used the stock ear buds for about two seconds before I decided I needed better. You're more discerning than I am. I went for a whole 30 seconds. I tried a pair of Etys years ago and didn't care for them. I'm currently using 'these' (http://tinyurl.com/meo6e), which need some EQ to sound OK. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: You're more discerning than I am. I went for a whole 30 seconds. I tried a pair of Etys years ago and didn't care for them. I'm currently using 'these' (http://tinyurl.com/meo6e), which need some EQ to sound OK. The price on those compares favorably to the Etys too! Well, I like my Etys, and I can't afford to buy any more for the time being. Maybe when I need to replace them I'll try the Ultimate Ears. But either choice will be far superior to the stock buds, that much is for sure! -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
benthos Wrote: Are you absolutely certain about this? I have an NW-E407, and it doesn't play mp3's.. the mp3's that are loaded into SonicStage are automatically converted to atrac when they're loaded onto the device - which explains why it takes so infernally long to load them. How fast is the loading process with SonicStage now? Has it changed at all? Chris I'm 100% positive, there's an option in SS to transfer songs to a portable player in the format they were imported or to convert to Atrac as you transfer. If you choose to transfer as imported, i.e. in mp3, then they transfer in seconds. SS is still a bit sluggish but a lot depends on your library size, mines 10,000+ songs. Rob -- Robster So much music, so little time.. Robster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
If you think the ipod buds are lousy, you should try the ones that comes with the iAudio X5! I don't care much for earbuds, so I have bought a pair of Sennheiser PX-200. I like the sound of them and they can be folded for transport. Some people find the bass too light, but it's enough for me... -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
P Floding Wrote: This depends on what you mean by high bitrate, what sort of music one listens to, what portable device, what headphones are used, and the listeners abilities. The first person here who can demonstrate with an ABX program such as 'ABC/HR' (http://ff123.net/abchr/abchr.html) that they can hear the difference between a WAV file and that same file encoded with lame -V 0 --vbr-new (using LAME 3.97 or later), wins a free Rio Karma! Unless Simon buys it from me first! -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: volume control question - digital or analogue?
btw, I'm in the same boat, because I want to use a digital eq for room correction. This is preventing me from using the SB's analog outputs. Looks like I might check into some attenuators myself. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21617 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
iAudio X5 with Shure E4. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: The first person here who can demonstrate with an ABX program such as 'ABC/HR' (http://ff123.net/abchr/abchr.html) that they can hear the difference between a WAV file and that same file encoded with lame -V 0 --vbr-new (using LAME 3.97 or later), wins a free Rio Karma! Unless Simon buys it from me first! OK What bitrate would those LAME options produce, BTW? How good equipment am I allowed to use? -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
I wonder if the SB3 will sound better with mpingo disks? Should they be put on the SB3 or on the computer? Silly me, BOTH, of course! I wonder if anyone makes a magical wireless signal enhancer that reduces jitter of the transmitted signal to the SB3. I'm sure someone will, soon. Stereophile is a joke. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
ezkcdude Wrote: I started a thread at the Stereophile forums (under digital sources) asking why haven't they reviewed the SB3 yet. Well, lo and behold, Stephen Mejias replied, and had this to say, Yes. A review sample arrived in our office just last week. I will wait with bated breath, as I'm sure will many of you. Why? Don't you already know what it sounds like? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
And they also take forever to review products. Typically up to a year. By the time the review comes out SB3 will be obsolete! -- crooner Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC Pioneer SX-1980 Vandersteen 2Ce Signature Vandersteen 2W crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SPDIF question - error correction and interconnect quality
Patrick Dixon Wrote: I don't think things are that simple: if you have a mismatch at both ends (which you probably will) the reflection will bounce back and forth along the cable as it decays. What if I have 75 ohm BNC's at both ends, and have optimized the SB tx circuit, and my dac rx circuit to make sure they are set at 75 ohms, and don't create reflections. Actually, I know there will always be some reflections, as nothing is perfect, but I plan to do what I can to minimize the reflections. Randy -- randytsuch randytsuch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3783 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21415 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
radish Wrote: Unless you don't like scratches. Only one model of the iPod is susceptible to scratching. I have had an iPod for years and it is still not scratched. And if you don't like iTunes you're pretty stuck. No thanks. As I mentioned, there are third party solutions. 'Anapod explorer' (http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/) is one. But iTunes is a great program that does what it is designed to do without using a lot of resources. You also forgot the iPod's disadvantages: You're stuck with iTunes (did I mention this already?). No, you're not, as I mentioned above. Supports just 3 formats. Where's WMA? Vorbis? FLAC? Why on earth would you want to use WMA? I could not care less about Vorbis, and as I mentioned in an earlier post, flac is (IMO) totally impractical for mobile use no matter what portable device you prefer. Distinct lack of advanced features - where's the real EQ? Where's the on-the-fly playlists? No gapless playback. Deal breaker for me. When a $400 DAP can't do something a $20 portable CD player can, we have a problem. If you want to carry around a big bulky device that will only play a cd's worth of music then you have my blessing. No doubt iPod won't meet everyone's expectations, but I don't really see anything in your list of objections that would sway me, and I stand by my recommendation. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
So, thought a quick poll of what amplification and speakers folks are using with their SB's might prove interesting I'll get started: Amp:Red Wine Clari-T (http://www.redwineaudio.com/Clari_T_Amp.html) Speakers:Amphion Argon (http://www.amphion.fi/products/argon2/argon2frame5.htm) Speaker cables:Audioquest, bi-wired -- joncourage joncourage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dwc Wrote: iAudio X5 with Shure E4. -Dan I eagerly awaited the release last year of the iAudio x5 and have not been disppointed. I have the 30GB version. I think they now have a 60GB out (look at NewEgg.com) Plays OGGs and FLACS. Single files are not gapless but I don't find that too irritating except for a few live albums which I'll probably convert to FLACs anyway. They don't waste any money on cheap headphones so just buy some good ones. I use Shure E3s and really like them, especially on noisy airplanes. There was no way I was going to buy an iPod, I guess I'm too much of an iconoclast (my wife would just say I'm grumpy). Rob. -- rkeeney rkeeney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
PSB Stratus Bronze speakers ADCOM GFA-525 Amplifier Home-assembled speaker cables -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Onkyo TX-NR800 Infinity Beta Towers and Bookshelves Velodyne 12 Sub. It Rocks with the SB! -- IndyDan IndyDan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2066 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Downstairs: Amp: Rotel RB-991 ( http://www.rotel.com/products/search_results.htm?cat=amplifiersdesc=Amplifiers ) Speakers: BW Nautilus 804 ( http://tinyurl.com/p2meh ) Office: Amp: Corda Aria ( http://www.meier-audio.homepage.t-online.de/aria.htm ) Headphones: AKG K701 ( http://tinyurl.com/f585v ) -- linuxtx linuxtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
New amp: Denon AVR-3805 (usually in 5 channel stereo mode--plays L and R channels in both front and rear speakers, a L+R mix in the center) Speakers: Klipsch Quintet IIs with a KSW10 subwoofer (recently replaced the amp--the old one had significant high frequency distortion that caused buzzing) Speaker wires: Electronics store 14 gauge copper specials. Rears are some sort of cheap Monster Cables. -- mrfantasy --Mike mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
My humble system: Amp: Naim Nait 5i Speakers: Harbeth LS3/5A, Celestion A-1 Itching to replace speakers with Focal.JMLab 1007 Be or Anthony Gallo Nucleus Reference 3. Any suggestions? -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
6 weeks ago I started a thread asking how I could improve my system by spending $1000. Well, I just put together a new system and the only component I kept was my Denon 3802 as a pre-amp. I also just spent $800 on cables alone so that will give you some perspective on how far I've come (or gone into debt) in the past 6 weeks. Here's the results: SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Denon 3802 (can bypass this using the DAC1 as a pre-amp) - Classe DR-15 Mono Blocks (1100 wpc @ 4ohms in mono mode!) - Magnepan MG 3.5Rs a REL Strata III. My signature still shows my old system: -- zooropa320 Audio gear: SB3 * Denon AVR-3802 * McIntosh MC-2120 * Paradigm Monitor 9s, CC-350, ADP-370s, PS-1200 Music server: Lian-Li PC-V2000B Case * Turbo-Cool 510 XE Power Supply * Tyan Thunder K8S Pro Motherboard * 3Ware 9500S-8 SATA RAID Card * 2 X AMD Opteron 240 1.4GHz CPUs * 2 X 512MB PC3200 Corsair CAS 3 DRAMs * 8 x 250GB SATA Hitachi drives in RAID 5 zooropa320's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] upgrade results? [was Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
zooropa320 wrote: spending $1000. Well, I just put together a new system and the only component I kept was my Denon 3802 as a pre-amp. I also just spent $800 on cables alone so that will give you some perspective on how far I've come (or gone into debt) in the past 6 weeks. Here's the results: SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Denon 3802 (can bypass this using the DAC1 as a pre-amp) - Classe DR-15 Mono Blocks (1100 wpc @ 4ohms in mono mode!) - Magnepan MG 3.5Rs a REL Strata III. So how does it sound? Are you in love? Got more on your wishlist? -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
P Floding Wrote: OK What bitrate would those LAME options produce, BTW? How good equipment am I allowed to use? Those options would generate VBR files averaging about 245 kbps. Use any equipment you like. I find it helpful to use headphones with a lot of high end, like Grados. You can find links to various ABX programs 'here' (http://www.pcabx.com). Your goal is to have the ABX program output a value of *p* which indicates a small probability that you're just guessing correctly. For example, if after about 16 trials you have p 0.1, then there's a greater than 90% chance that you weren't guessing and could really discern a difference. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
ezkcdude Wrote: Do you really need the preamp? I'm just wondering if you're system would sound better without it. Have you tried a direct connection from the DAC to the amp? This system is for music and HT so the Denon handles the audio/video switching among sources. I bought an extra pair of balanced cables to go straight from the DAC to the amps when I have some dedicated listening time. -- zooropa320 Audio gear: SB3 * Denon AVR-3802 * McIntosh MC-2120 * Paradigm Monitor 9s, CC-350, ADP-370s, PS-1200 Music server: Lian-Li PC-V2000B Case * Turbo-Cool 510 XE Power Supply * Tyan Thunder K8S Pro Motherboard * 3Ware 9500S-8 SATA RAID Card * 2 X AMD Opteron 240 1.4GHz CPUs * 2 X 512MB PC3200 Corsair CAS 3 DRAMs * 8 x 250GB SATA Hitachi drives in RAID 5 zooropa320's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
zooropa320 Wrote: 6 weeks ago I started a thread asking how I could improve my system by spending $1000. Well, I just put together a new system and the only component I kept was my Denon 3802 as a pre-amp. I also just spent $800 on cables alone so that will give you some perspective on how far I've come (or gone into debt) in the past 6 weeks. Here's the results: SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Denon 3802 (can bypass this using the DAC1 as a pre-amp) - Classe DR-15 Mono Blocks (1100 wpc @ 4ohms in mono mode!) - Magnepan MG 3.5Rs a REL Strata III. My signature still shows my old system: Do you really need the preamp? I'm just wondering if you're system would sound better without it. Have you tried a direct connection from the DAC to the amp? -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Amp: McCormack DNA-1 Pre: EE Minimax Speakers: Paradigm Studio 100s -- Buckyg4 Buckyg4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
SB2 digital out - Behringer DEQ2496 digital out - Benchmark DAC1 XLR balanced out - Pathos Logos - Magnepan 1.6qr -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SPDIF question - error correction and interconnect quality
Rereading this thread convinces me that my money is better spent upgrading the on board electronics of the SB3 rather than trying to implement an external DAC. What are already very good circuits can be improved to excellent with a relatively modest sum compared to the added complexity and expense of an external solution with comparable performance. Had Slim Devices chosen to target a more restricted (read higher end) part of the market, I'm sure they would have come up with a higher performance product as well. -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21415 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Using a Panny XR-55 into Meadowlark Kestrel 2's in the living room Using an Ampeg SVT 4-Pro into Alesis Monitor 2's in the bedroom Using a Singlepower PPX3 into Senn HD-600 headphones -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
