Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter

2012-11-25 Thread michael123

Eric Seaberg wrote: 
 Very few studios are tracking at 96k let alone 192k!  The amount of
 required storage space is HUGE.  Some of the best engineers in the
 business have said 96k isn't worth it, but the jump to 192k is getting
 close.  
 
 STILL, no one is going to buy it.  Look at how the DVD-A and SACD have
 survived?  Heck, the DAT was supposed to kill the cassette back in '86! 
 You're trying to sell GREAT sounding stuff to a consumer that's more
 than happy with a 128kbps MP3.  Maybe higher quality audio on Blu-Ray
 will get some things going again.


And after 3 years, this sounds just as funny as 640K ought to be enough
for anybody.
:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter

2012-11-25 Thread Julf

michael123 wrote: 
 And after 3 years, this sounds just as funny as 640K ought to be enough
 for anybody.
 :)

Not really. Software keeps getting increasingly big and bloated (and RAM
price keeps dropping), but human hearing hasn't changed much in the last
couple of thousands of years - and if it has changed, it has probably
changed for the worse because of all the noise exposure.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter

2012-11-25 Thread Mnyb

Julf wrote: 
 Not really. Software keeps getting increasingly big and bloated (and RAM
 price keeps dropping), but human hearing hasn't changed much in the last
 couple of thousands of years - and if it has changed, it has probably
 changed for the worse because of all the noise exposure.

Yes the limit is biological/biomechanical  , any improvement are likely
to come from improved studio equipment, no equipment i know of have come
close the limit implied by 24bit for example 144dB sn ratio .

So the format is also transparent to all audio equipment used ,it is
better than stuff we use to record and playback with of-course in the
frequency domain we can do better (or rather more ) ,but that just a
waste as here the biological limits of our hearing sets in



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter

2012-11-25 Thread mlsstl

Mnyb wrote: 
 Yes the limit is biological/biomechanical  , any improvement are likely
 to come from improved studio equipment, no equipment i know of have come
 close the limit implied by 24bit for example 144dB sn ratio .
 
 So the format is also transparent to all audio equipment used ,it is
 better than stuff we use to record and playback with of-course in the
 frequency domain we can do better (or rather more ) ,but that just a
 waste as here the biological limits of our hearing sets in

You make a good point. Put another way, in math, adding about 2 plus
2.0001 does not give you 4.0001. The correct answer is about
4. 

In audio, there are so many about 2s in the chain that it always
amuses me that some people can spend so much time polishing the tiny
number to the right of the decimal but be perfectly accepting of so many
abouts. That's probably human nature -- it just feels good to think
that  -something- is within your control.



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