Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Why not make a similar test with only digital streamers (ex DAC) through the same DAC? Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
I think it's just another way of presenting music. If you compare to the visual arts for a long time there was a striving to "reproduce" and not interpret, but it changed. Techniques came in on how to interpret images to make them the most impactful they can be. I think the advances of production techniques have allowed more creativity in the way the final sound will, ahem, sound. Done well, the compressed sound fills a certain need, providing a hugely impactful direct, driving sound that has a place in the list of options out there, but.. I do wish it wasn't so needlessly applied to less stylised music across the board. And it's just so *badly* applied in so many cases that it has a really bad name. I've lost count how many albums I can't listen to because of distortion caused by over compression, and that's just dumb. I suspect the music industry is still suffering from teenage fads and when it's reached maturity and tech like this has been done to death and the novelty goes away things will hopefully improve a little. Perhaps I'll still be able to hear over about 10khz by the time that happens I doubt it.. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
cliveb wrote: > Had a read of them and no surprises - most people finding it difficult > to tell any significant difference. > > What I found most interesting was the demographic split. The younger > participants found the track with less dynamic range to be the most > revealing, while the older ones picked the tracks with more dynamic > range. The youngsters also seemed to slightly prefer the iPhone whereas > the oldies liked the Oppo and Sony players. To me this seems to indicate > that what you grow up with is a greater factor in perceived quality than > the intrinsic character of the sound. Nurture more significant than > nature, as it were. Hi Clive, Yup. I found this interesting and wasn't quite expecting these findings either until I noticed for some reason, the iPhone preference came primarily from the <40 year olds for some reason. The more I've looked and considered the hi-fi hobby, the more the importance of what happens behind the scenes during production becomes. Loud, dynamically compressed, distorted sounds have become the norm of what younger generations listen to. While there has always been some "studio magic" in all our albums, and nobody really thinks studio are supposed to sound "live", the loss of a more dynamic, "natural" sound probably does over time "program" our brains to think and feel different... You never know about humans ;), maybe the pendulum eventually swings back and at some point people might long for a change to something not so loud and synthetic. Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Archimago wrote: > Folks the Listener Results are out :-). Had a read of them and no surprises - most people finding it difficult to tell any significant difference. What I found most interesting was the demographic split. The younger participants found the track with less dynamic range to be the most revealing, while the older ones picked the tracks with more dynamic range. The youngsters also seemed to slightly prefer the iPhone whereas the oldies liked the Oppo and Sony players. To me this seems to indicate that what you grow up with is a greater factor in perceived quality than the intrinsic character of the sound. Nurture more significant than nature, as it were. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
wl1 wrote: > I thought I took screen shots of my responses - but I cant find them. > Doh. Do I assume there is no way to get you to resend my response now > the device ps are known? Is this possibles? PM here? Hi! Do you remember parts of what you entered like your equipment list? PM me and I'll look in the database. Folks the Listener Results are out :-). Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Archimago wrote: > Hey guys. Thanks for the participation! > > Here are the devices "unblinded". > > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/05/blind-test-results-part-1-do-digital.html > > Will post discussions and analysis of the results in future blog > installments :). I thought I took screen shots of my responses - but I cant find them. Doh. Do I assume there is no way to get you to resend my response now the device ps are known? Is this possibles? PM here? wl1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
>From the blog post > "Audiophilia appears to be a strongly male-dominated hobby - 100 men : 1 > woman... Thanks to the 1 woman who participated - you're truly special! > :-)" Any different here I wonder? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Nice article! But, did I miss part 2? *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Hey guys. Thanks for the participation! Here are the devices "unblinded". http://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/05/blind-test-results-part-1-do-digital.html Will post discussions and analysis of the results in future blog installments :). Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
Archimago wrote: > Greetings Squeezebox Audiophiles ;-) > > Have fun listening! > Arch I tried this very interesting...please post the results back here. wl1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?
I'm interested and also curious. Thanks for posting this I will try the blind test. origoreo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110104 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
